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1.3.6 Flamethrower Changes
-Mad Maverick-:
I could totally live with fire doing shatter-ish damage and not hull(aka explosive) dmg
Cancaro:
I've played a single match and I've made some tests in the sandbox with the new flamethrower. My opinion is that yes, flamethrower right now is op, but it doesn't mean that you can't beat someone using it, but surely you need a damn good crew to best it. I don't think the flamer must be nerfed like it was before, I like how it has become a useful gun, but something must be done.
Right now I think the DPS is the main problem of the flamer, it takes down hull armor too fast (and of course at the same time it disable everything, basically it's a weapon that does everything xD).
There are a lot of suggestion that could balance things back, like this one:
--- Quote from: macmacnick on April 28, 2014, 09:45:28 pm ---Might I suggest the buffing of the chem spray duration, along with the amount of firestacks it removes (i.e 4 instead of 3)?
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I personally think that reducing the ammo of the flamer as long with is recharge time could rebalance things a bit, because it gives engeneers some time to counter the fires.
I preatty much agree with Skrimskraw.
--- Quote from: Skrimskraw on April 28, 2014, 12:06:40 pm ---so lets say you chemspray your entire ship, ok you are immune, then suddenly chemspray wears off, if your engineer is not there on the spot at the moment to renew it you are screwed: 20 stacks incoming fast and your component is down, repairing it takes time and meanwhile your other ship parts catches fire and you are now under completely lockdown by 2 flamethrowers that never stops shooting.
are we to put chemspray on our gunners, and have chemspray on all engineers? that seems to be the only solution here if you end up in a brawl with these double flamers.
the second you start shooting back, some part of your ship loses chemspray and catches fire, you either go full dps and try to get the kill, which you wont due to the fact that your guns will soon be useless. Or you go full defense and die anyway.
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Mezhu:
Buffing spray is by no means an answer, quit suggesting it.
It's an extremely effective tool, already far superior to the extinguisher. Besides, buffing the spray wouldn't solve the issue of mobulas/spires being unplayable and gunners being useless versus new flamethrower.
Decrease range to 80%, drop the damage to minimal, maybe also increase the reload a tad and flamer becomes a very short ranged yet powerful disabler that's still relatively easy to counter and doesn't break ships all by itself.
Dutch Vanya:
--- Quote from: Mezhu on April 29, 2014, 07:42:11 am ---Buffing spray is by no means an answer, quit suggesting it.
It's an extremely effective tool, already far superior to the extinguisher. Besides, buffing the spray wouldn't solve the issue of mobulas/spires being unplayable and gunners being useless versus new flamethrower.
Decrease range to 80%, drop the damage to minimal, maybe also increase the reload a tad and flamer becomes a very short ranged yet powerful disabler that's still relatively easy to counter and doesn't break ships all by itself.
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Mobula and spire are not unplayable... as long as they have (more) flamethrowers.
Mezhu:
Well if you think you can maintain a mobula versus the current flamer as an engineer, good for you- I know I can't.
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