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Sky League Group Assignment & Update (3/22 & 3/29 @ 4pm EDT / 8pm UTC)

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Thomas:
@skrim:
I'm pretty sure this was mostly to make the tournament run a little smoother. Those in group E generally played more matches than those in the other groups. Well, at least the E2 seed. If you put the E group back to round 0, that leaves us with 3 matches and 3 teams moving into round 1, which already has 4 teams and leads to an odd number of teams. Basically because of the weird group sizes and odd number of groups things were bound to get weird in the bracket stage, and this method is probably as good as it could get.



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I think the issue is less about certain teams having to face challenging teams, while others get a pretty easy series of matches; and more to do with a team (could be any team) being able to join after the sign-ups, and more importantly, after the tournament had already started. The 'sure, you can join in if some other team drops out' rule was never publicly disclosed or discussed. If it was a rule, that would have been fine, and if it was made public we might have seen some other teams be able to join in and fill up the numbers.

Even then, joining after the start of the tournament and with hardly any warning to any teams, let alone the team they were going to be playing against, just isn't cool. Every other team had proper notification of who they were playing and where, and any switches that needed to be done were done well in advance. If they were going to replace a no-show, they should have been against Holy in the first Group matches. Instead they joined after that and joined during the next Group stages.

Essentially this caused a team that signed up in advance and barely managed to get together a 'full' team (There wasn't any defined rules on team sizes either, but it's generally implied that teams are 8 people) got eliminated by some team showing up at the last minute.


I feel that all of the negative side effects of this decision were unintentional, and those involved just wanted to make it a fun event. But it is still upsetting to those who have been playing by the rules outlined for the tournament. Even with this hiccup, I expect it to be a good tournament.

Alistair MacBain:
I kinda understand what skrim means.
There is no reward in winning your group as first place.
Usually in other games you get a better seed for a better placement you managed to grab before the new seed.
And even with your explanation for grp E which has a point there are still 4 other groups which couldve used their second place in the first round instead of using 2 first places in that round.
But yeah maybe the bracket system does not allow those advanced seeding methods and just places ppl randomly.

Wundsalz:

--- Quote from: Urz on March 30, 2014, 12:08:00 pm ---Clarification on group D: Keyvias contacted me earlier in the week and asked if there was a way Muse could participate, as they hadn't signed up. I told him that I was expecting at least one no-show (Phalanx Infamia who to this point has not provided any communication beyond their signup), and that they could have the first no-show slot if Muse had a full team ready. As it turned out, not only did Phalanx not show, but the two other teams in the group (MAG and Clockwork Cavalry) only brought a single ship each. The result was that those two teams played together, and Museosaurs took one of the two empty slots for a total of three played games.

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I fully support Urz decision here. In general I believe allowing as many people who are interested in the competitive scene to participate in events like this is a good cause and in this particular case I doubt it will influence the outcome of the tournament significantly anyway.
Also I've been ok with the gent-team swaps.
While I can see how such rule-bending can cause frustration, I prefer reasonable gut decisions for cases like these over a excessively long rule-paper covering every possible event the tournament organization might possibly want to react to.

Sir Yosh:
I enjoy the games and that's what matters the most :)

We won't be able to play against Muse, but it's great that people who made this game do NOT want us to win the Adventure Mode so easily :D I think it's awesome there is a Muse team, as long as we get to destroy them ;)

Off-topic: If it's called a "league" we should have had like a football league system (European football, not that American rugby-like thing with throwing the ball) :D

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