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Goldfish side-gun arcs
Crafeksterty:
I dont think so really. Just changing arcs is always not a good way of balancing ships. The spire got a arc change because its design was glass cannon. The goldfish does not have that design.
The goldfish has side guns to assisst with other type of damage. For example, disable galleon or some other with with hwacha, aid with gattling for your ally to kill.
In a competetive standards, yeah the goldfish does not have the killing power, because its not seppoused to. Buff the goldfish, all of a sudden, the squid will need a similar buff because they are both similar ships in terms of loadout.
In competetive standards (once again) The goldfish is a good support ship and it succeeds on that. Quick and agile, very tanky. Can escape etc etc. while his offencive mostly enhances his partners offence. To make something competetive, is not to make it more killable. It is his ability to be whatever you want it to be.
If it is more offencive oriented, you just have a very tanky Pre spire buff spire.
In casual standards, its a fun ship that does not requier too much effort to use.
I mean, people always forget about the second ship (or third) that the ship flies with. For example, poeple think Galleon is a bit weak now. Have 2 galleons, all of a sudden, its super strong. 2 Goldfishes arent exactly making goldfish strong, but a goldfish with X can be strong. You really have to account to both Tools < Guns < Ship < Teamate < Game mode
Erheller:
--- Quote from: RearAdmiralZill on February 16, 2014, 05:20:22 pm ---Doing so would also lower their health (since they are related if i remember correctly).
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--- Quote from: awkm on November 01, 2013, 03:35:46 pm ---Repair time can be altered independently of gun health, which is what I did.
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If I'm not misinterpreting awkm, changing the rebuild time won't have any effect on health.
RearAdmiralZill:
--- Quote from: Erheller on February 16, 2014, 05:45:54 pm ---
--- Quote from: RearAdmiralZill on February 16, 2014, 05:20:22 pm ---Doing so would also lower their health (since they are related if i remember correctly).
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--- Quote from: awkm on November 01, 2013, 03:35:46 pm ---Repair time can be altered independently of gun health, which is what I did.
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If I'm not misinterpreting awkm, changing the rebuild time won't have any effect on health.
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Then that alters my thoughts on that idea, though itll still never be as fast as light gun's rebuild.
RearAdmiralZill:
--- Quote ---I mean, people always forget about the second ship (or third) that the ship flies with. For example, poeple think Galleon is a bit weak now. Have 2 galleons, all of a sudden, its super strong. 2 Goldfishes arent exactly making goldfish strong, but a goldfish with X can be strong. You really have to account to both Tools < Guns < Ship < Teamate < Game mode
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If you read that thread youll know I've mentioned that already in terms of the Galleon. The galleon has a lot more going for it vs a goldfish though.
My biggest thing is that once that gun is disabled, the goldfish has nothing to do until it gets rebuilt, or they turn to make themselves a large target to get one light gun going. Turning even one gun forward will do the same thing, and lower the repair-ability if both are manned, but give it the versatility we expect from goldfish.
Crafeksterty:
But the thing about the goldfish is it can always come from places where its guns cannot be disabled. The galleons guns are much more obviously disabled than the Goldfish but it works out because it has many guns and it can tank it out. While goldfish may not be able to tank and fight at the same time, that is why its fast and agile. One of the reasons why its fast and agile is to use its side guns.
The squid, if it has buff on engines and Pheonix claw, It can use all 3 guns.
Gun arcs shouldnt always be about intersecting to be effective with eachother. And that goes with the Goldfish, junker, Mobula.
The junker can do a double gattling and easily switch to a mortar on the front. The mobula can easily switch from Double Merc, to Double whatever else AND STILL have the middle gun be its main one.
But even with this ability, the goldfish is still supportive more than ever. Only one gun can assisst, because the heavy guns are very centered around being one thing.
Now imagine a new heavy gun coming out that does piercing or something of alike, now you can safely turn for a mortar/light flak/artemis for whatever the heavy gun is.
Everytime i talk about goldfish i wanna jump in and play, but i need a teamate i can cooperate with.
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