Author Topic: Regarding the Regarding the structure of the next Competitive Season  (Read 35876 times)

Offline Wundsalz

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As the poll thread has been locked for whatever reason, here's a sepearate thread to discuss the poll.
I've got a question regarding option A and C:
Quote from: Option A
Same old, same old - Continue Clan based scoring, where a clan can have as many teams as wanted and any of them can gain points for the clan
Quote from: Option C
A bit of both - Clans can enter 1 team of 8-16, points are gained by the Team for the Clan
The previously posted rules state "The teams do not have locked in crews" and all clan members are basically free to hop from team to team as they like.
So how does Option A differ from Option C now if there's nothing to prevent The Paddling/Raft and Brood from fighting as "The Ducks"-team on the same day (or even parallel)?
« Last Edit: November 30, 2013, 01:36:05 pm by Wundsalz »

Offline Orangey

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Re: Regarding the Regarding the structure of the next Competitive Season
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2013, 01:50:31 pm »
I think that the preciously stated rules are being reworked, so the "The teams do not have locked in crews" rule is being reworked too. A, B and C are the posibilities instead of that rule. So if its A it will stay the same, with C there is only 1 team which can have a max of 16 players in the team that plays for the clan.
« Last Edit: November 30, 2013, 01:52:44 pm by Orangey »

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Re: Regarding the Regarding the structure of the next Competitive Season
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2013, 01:51:59 pm »
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Re: Regarding the Regarding the structure of the next Competitive Season
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2013, 01:52:38 pm »
The topic was locked to avoid a debate on the rules before a draft is prepared and posted here, and rather just get numbers from the poll to decide which version to favor. As for your questions you can expect things such as that to be handled within the rewrite for that option should it win. The new rules will be posted once the poll finishes, I'd save the debate for then. It's safe though to not reference previous iterations of the rules as the new ones vary quite a bit. Especially regarding Clans, Teams, and Substitution. After the poll the new rules will be up on here for about a week to get all last minute feedback and get any changes made before they go live on the website.


If anyone wants to talk personally about things regarding the rules, feel free to add me and talk to me on Steam


Offline Coldcurse

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Re: Regarding the Regarding the structure of the next Competitive Season
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2013, 02:27:18 pm »
if you keep the old optionthen we need to ban the ducks due to clan size.

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Re: Regarding the Regarding the structure of the next Competitive Season
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2013, 02:35:13 pm »
if you keep the old optionthen we need to ban the ducks due to clan size.

Our active member count is actually pretty similar to a lot of the other clans around here.


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Re: Regarding the Regarding the structure of the next Competitive Season
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2013, 03:09:08 pm »
I would prefer rules that would benefit smaller clans as opposed to rules that hamstring larger clans.  The more competitive party the better and I would rather allow more sucks to participate than just the same ones over and over.

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Re: Regarding the Regarding the structure of the next Competitive Season
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2013, 03:15:58 pm »
I was wondering if B also had a player limit like C?

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Re: Regarding the Regarding the structure of the next Competitive Season
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2013, 03:30:14 pm »
In both B and C teams are to be within 8 and 16 members.

Offline Sammy B. T.

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Re: Regarding the Regarding the structure of the next Competitive Season
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2013, 06:13:41 pm »
The more competitive party the better and I would rather allow more sucks to participate than just the same ones over and over.

This is why you don't post with a smartphone.

Party = Play
Sucks = Ducks



Regardless, both B and C would have a de facto effect of completely splitting up teams that have more players than a team. Hamstringing the Gents and the Ducks is not a good idea for a broad system of scrimmages outside of tournaments.
« Last Edit: November 30, 2013, 06:38:36 pm by Sammy B. T. »

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Re: Regarding the Regarding the structure of the next Competitive Season
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2013, 06:50:51 pm »
I've always been strongly in favour of keeping team composition rules fairly open. Makes life easier for a lot of people.

We might need to look at other ways to help small clans, however.

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Re: Regarding the Regarding the structure of the next Competitive Season
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2013, 09:38:14 pm »
Fact is that a clan with more then 1 team getting point for 1 clan will statisticly have a higher chance to get more points. Making it verry hard for smaller clans to get above big clans.

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Re: Regarding the Regarding the structure of the next Competitive Season
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2013, 10:00:59 pm »
Fact forcing a team to bench two thirds of its members will be not get support

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Re: Regarding the Regarding the structure of the next Competitive Season
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2013, 10:27:33 pm »
Then B would be the most fair for both small and big clans.

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Re: Regarding the Regarding the structure of the next Competitive Season
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2013, 02:37:03 am »
Except it goes against what a clan is supposed to be about. If ducks worked being three autonomous clans,  we would be three autonomous clans.