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GUNS & GUNNER SKILLS Balance Discussion v1.3.1
Echoez:
--- Quote from: RearAdmiralZill on August 29, 2013, 10:26:14 am ---Well, I can make much more use of the carronade's shatter damage with no spread.
Beyond that large bonus I can see your point.
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Man what are you trying to disable with that carronade?.. Light guns? That's the only thing that requires perfect laser like accuracy to disable with that gun..
Captain Smollett:
--- Quote from: Nidh on August 29, 2013, 10:29:52 am ---This thread is for guns and their balance right? Just, my previous gunner BADFOOT was an ace with the Hwacha, and still is, but when the heavy clip change came around, far too many times a barrage would hit and not disable anything. My gunner's skill is not the problem. Mr. Lambert was hardly disabling anything at mid-range either, though he was hitting with it. The Galleon doesn't care if anything get disabled or not, but the Goldfish sure as heck does.
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A goldfish can control it's engagement range. Hold fire until you're gunner is at a range they can comfortably disable in.
RearAdmiralZill:
Damaging also reduces effectiveness of components, and forces repairs, thus lowering dps. It doesn't have to outright kill everything to be considered a good Hwacha barrage, especially at range.
Now, yes, you have to be more targeted with your barrage in order to take out specific components. I mean, hitting the side of a ship isn't going to take out the engines. If anything, adding spread will make your disable issues worse at range as you spread your damage. Then you really won't see any disables. Heavy clip its a very precise thing in a Hwacha, which is kinda funny given it's random nature.
I also think that if you are trying to use a hwacha fish at long range, you're doing it wrong.
(At no point is "you" targeted at any one person.)
--- Quote from: Echoez on August 29, 2013, 10:31:41 am ---
--- Quote from: RearAdmiralZill on August 29, 2013, 10:26:14 am ---Well, I can make much more use of the carronade's shatter damage with no spread.
Beyond that large bonus I can see your point.
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Man what are you trying to disable with that carronade?.. Light guns? That's the only thing that requires perfect laser like accuracy to disable with that gun..
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I've just notice more disables after the change. I'm giving my perspective purely from a pilot's point of view.
Echoez:
--- Quote from: RearAdmiralZill on August 29, 2013, 10:44:07 am ---I also think that if you are trying to use a hwacha fish at long range, you're doing it wrong.
(At no point is "you" targeted at any one person.)
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Excuse me? This gun has a pretty long range, it's imperative that you use it at that range as you approach, that's the whole freaking point of getting it on a Goldfish, especially against a Galleon where you need to disable it from as far as possible. I think my gunner proved it pretty well during the Saturday Flotsam event, doesn't even have to be a Galleon, could be an incoming Pyra, a Junker witha broadside on you and even a Spire or an other Goldfish.
Nidh is actually right about it, the Galleon realy doesn't care if a Hwacha shot doesn't disable much, but it's much worse on a Goldfish where you have no other guns pointing at the same enemy.
--- Quote from: RearAdmiralZill on August 29, 2013, 10:44:07 am ---I've just notice more disables after the change. I'm giving my perspective purely from a pilot's point of view.
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Eh fair enough, though I didn't notice that much of a change in my time flying it, but I can't say anything about that specificaly.
Nidh:
From gatling range it is still very hard to disable reliably. If within gatling range, holding fire is no longer an option or myself or my ally are dead. You think I'd be upset about this for nothing? I had been flying Hwachafish for so long, and if it was still "fine" you think I'd be complaining about it? Echoez agrees with me, and he's probably been flying Goldfish longer than I have. I think we have enough experience to say the the hwachafish has taken a big hit and could use some help.
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