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Which maps would you want gone?
RearAdmiralZill:
Sorry for having an opinion that is different from yours.
If anything, I'd like to see more tournaments open up to cp, koth, crazy king matches. They open a new plethora of tactics that you won't find in a DM, and makes things more interesting.
You seem to have a personal vendetta against labyrinth though, which Im not sure why that is. Isn't the point of multiple maps to broaden the base level of tactics involved instead of shrinking that, and leaving us with less?
N-Sunderland:
--- Quote from: -B- RearAdmiralZill on July 21, 2013, 04:27:19 pm ---Sorry for having an opinion that is different from yours.
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I never said I had a problem with that. If you don't like the poll, don't vote in it. Simple as that. I'm not asking you not to state your opinion, which you can do without the poll.
--- Quote from: -B- RearAdmiralZill on July 21, 2013, 04:27:19 pm ---If anything, I'd like to see more tournaments open up to cp, koth, crazy king matches. They open a new plethora of tactics that you won't find in a DM, and makes things more interesting.
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Absolutely. I really, really want there to be a capture the point tournament. I... Actually love Scrap. Anglean and Refinery are also great. I'd really like to see what strategies people would come up with.
--- Quote from: -B- RearAdmiralZill on July 21, 2013, 04:27:19 pm ---You seem to have a personal vendetta against labyrinth though, which Im not sure why that is. Isn't the point of multiple maps to broaden the base level of tactics involved instead of shrinking that, and leaving us with less?
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I do! Thanks for noticing. One of my main reasons is that the first team to capture the point will almost always win. It's stupidly hard to take it away due to how quickly a killed ship can come back. It doesn't make for very good matches. Otherwise, it doesn't make much sense to have a single CP map among several DM maps. It'd be better if there were several CP maps.
Piemanlives:
--- Quote from: N-Sunderland on July 21, 2013, 04:42:15 pm ---I do! Thanks for noticing. One of my main reasons is that the first team to capture the point will almost always win. It's stupidly hard to take it away due to how quickly a killed ship can come back. It doesn't make for very good matches. Otherwise, it doesn't make much sense to have a single CP map among several DM maps. It'd be better if there were several CP maps.
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It is ridiculously hard to take the point from the other team, that is if their good enough, even if they aren't, just holding out while we pound at them can be enough to distract us from the point of the match.
RearAdmiralZill:
--- Quote ---I never said I had a problem with that. If you don't like the poll, don't vote in it. Simple as that. I'm not asking you not to state your opinion, which you can do without the poll.
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I took your post as hostile, so in that instance that's my mistake.
Clicking an option on a poll is much easier than making an argument against it. Point being, your poll will only show people who want maps gone, vs the number of people who think it's fine as is.
--- Quote ---Absolutely. I really, really want there to be a capture the point tournament. I... Actually love Scrap. Anglean and Refinery are also great. I'd really like to see what strategies people would come up with.
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Well we agree then, in a way. I really do like Scrap, and tell anyone who complains when it gets voted in to go jump into a sand storm. Issue there is 1. those are all 3v3 and 2. I'll touch on in the next segment here.
--- Quote ---I do! Thanks for noticing. One of my main reasons is that the first team to capture the point will almost always win. It's stupidly hard to take it away due to how quickly a killed ship can come back. It doesn't make for very good matches. Otherwise, it doesn't make much sense to have a single CP map among several DM maps. It'd be better if there were several CP maps.
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First, I can see where you come from with a killed ship coming back too fast to block the point again, which might just mean tweaking the capture rate on labyrinth. I still don't think it is impossible. Judging it based on 2-3 matches in cog's history isnt too fair, though i've only watched the last one from this weekend. I don't think they lost because it was CP.
I've always considered the single CP argument weak. But, it just shows that we need more 2v2 CP maps, either new or converted.
Finally, is that tournaments shouldn't always try to separate CP from DM. A 3v3 tourney featuring all of the maps in a more-than-one-day format would be extremely fun to participate in.
I personally don't mind Labyrinth in the cog rotation, of which I may be a minority. Just getting it out there.
N-Sunderland:
--- Quote ---Clicking an option on a poll is much easier than making an argument against it. Point being, your poll will only show people who want maps gone, vs the number of people who think it's fine as is.
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I suppose that's true. I'll add an option for that.
--- Quote ---But, it just shows that we need more 2v2 CP maps, either new or converted.
Finally, is that tournaments shouldn't always try to separate CP from DM. A 3v3 tourney featuring all of the maps in a more-than-one-day format would be extremely fun to participate in.
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Agreed on both points.
--- Quote ---I personally don't mind Labyrinth in the cog rotation, of which I may be a minority. Just getting it out there.
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I respect your point of view. It's only a matter of opinion, after all.
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