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Re: Fjord Baronies
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2013, 04:14:07 am »
That is an awesome perversion of Plato's "The Republic" and I oh so approve of tainting great historical texts!

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Re: Fjord Baronies
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2013, 03:24:12 pm »
Just from reading the things previously posted from above,
things that have been going around in my head:


Government:

Nobility: I think there could be a possibility of having 4/5 main houses of nobility controlling the populace. More of a kingship - inherit by blood sort of thing. (sounds sort of like 'Game of Thrones' i know...)

If not that maybe a 'high consulate' order of sorts, wherein they elect a leader among themselves. A system where there are multiple representatives of state, and one head leading those representatives.

Or you could mix both, a sort of hybrid between monarchy and feudalism.

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Architecture and Culture:

Looking at the map, first thing that comes into mind is Nordic/Gaelic/Celtic influences.
But im thinking why not something more of Sumerian/Babylonian fusion with Nordic/Gaelic/Celtic elements in terms of art and architecture.

It could be that the Fjorn Baronies (since they are strongly rooted in blood inherit traditions) originate from 'The First King' - as in the one stated in 'a time of Kings'. If so, they must have lived for a very long time (perhaps even longer than the Yasha empire) - hence the influence from Summerian cultures.

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Infrastructure and Lifestyle

Going along with the whole Summerian/Nordic fusion thing - I mean with the harsh cold and everything - maybe they have subjected themselves to live underground? Not so much like in caves or something - perhaps something like a post apocalyptic underground mixed with a large underground city much like in 'dwarven lore'. Since after all they were 'ravaged by war'. They would basically live under the ice. Relying on a rich traditional lifestyle aided by ancient superstructures or ancient/futuristic powers - (i.e. discovering Hydrothermal Electricity that was actually build by their ancestors ages ago. Its like if Cavemen found an Iphone).


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People

Well since its a mix between Feudalistic and Monarchy, first thing that comes to mind is a Roman/Greek.
They could have Traditional Roman Titles/names - Having an emperor or King.
Since the people are war-ravaged and battle hardened from constant power struggles, Titles and 'Survival of the Fittest' should be one of their main traits.

Possibly a mix between medieval Nobility statuses with Roman names

i.e. Remus Meridius, son of Brutus Meridius of the House Meridium - Commander of the 6th Legion of the Northern Fleet of the Fjorn Baronies.   



and thats all i got so far.

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Re: Fjord Baronies
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2013, 05:09:34 am »
I've kinda been thinking that post war the Germans and the Scandinavians retreated near the Fjords. They created a super tough people of both german and scandinavian.

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Re: Fjord Baronies
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2013, 10:20:20 pm »
And their deity is Grabthar.

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Re: Fjord Baronies
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2013, 08:02:01 am »
the cards have alligned.

I am danish.
I study history, mainly the high middleages, love reading about feudalism.
Corvus has a crow logo.

I will fight for the baronies :p

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Re: Fjord Baronies
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2013, 08:05:52 am »
From what I've read so far in this thread I think of the Landsraad from Dune, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landsraad. Thus it has me quite excited for my clan who've decided that we shall fallow the Baronies.

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Re: Fjord Baronies
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2013, 05:38:11 am »
Good eye Relyks, I'm a huge Dune fan myself and can really see the parallel with how I've imagined the Baronies coming together.

I want to try and define, for the fun of it, some of the noble houses that could be, or at least begin describing the personalities we'd like to see there in.

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Re: Fjord Baronies
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2013, 06:38:06 pm »
Good eye Relyks, I'm a huge Dune fan myself and can really see the parallel with how I've imagined the Baronies coming together.

I want to try and define, for the fun of it, some of the noble houses that could be, or at least begin describing the personalities we'd like to see there in.

A lot of amazing potential, fleshing out the Baronies to be like the Landsraad, if anything is needed do let me know.

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Re: Fjord Baronies
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2013, 09:43:35 am »
in the Northern fjords map, the history text teaches us that it is positioned just North og glowwater bay (where my Clan have their operational base located).
We also hear of raiders and pirates roaming the area and all in all being a security problem to the outskirts of the baronies.

What I take from this knowledge is that Glowwater is based on the edge of the baronies, possibly being the bulwark towards the North, like the Castles build in medieval England towards wales and sctoland would function.

from this I also gather that the Capital of the baronies would be located further South, possibly a long way Down. And this Capital would be the home and powerhouse of King Greger (who is also mentioned in the Northern fjords text).

King is a title given to the ruler of a quantity of lords (this case barons).
WHat we dont know is if there are more Kings in the fjords, being in some sort of council like relyks mentioned.
However my guess is that no King would share his power, or even be capable of agreeing with other Kings in the same faction.

What the Northern fjord text also mentions is that king Greger have troubles keeping control over the Northern fjords area, which I would lead to the fact that he is an undisputed ruler of the baronies to the North and around his Capital.
however the fact that king Greger have troubles gianing control over his regions to the North could also mean that the fjord baronies, is a big political scene where powers shifts over the years. A king cannot protect his borders in a feudal state where his clients do no not abide his power.
A king who controls a feudal country would have a Court that resembles his closest Allies, Family and the sons and daughters of his enemies (hostages were a big part of controlling your enemies or possibly rebel lords. Example is Theon greyjoy in game of thrones who were given to the starks as hostage).

It's all just theories from my side :)

also looking forward to joint operations if both our Clans are fjord based Relyks :)

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Re: Fjord Baronies
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2013, 02:44:36 pm »
in the Northern fjords map, the history text teaches us that it is positioned just North og glowwater bay (where my Clan have their operational base located).

I really should take time to read those in-game lore parts. Thanks for bringing that up, cause after looking around a bit on the world map I finally realised exactly where the fjords map is located. That makes Navinstaak pretty much the northest part of the baronies reach.

Though I gotta say,  I always imagined you guys to be based in Ravenrook, cause well.. yeah

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Re: Fjord Baronies
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2013, 05:53:01 pm »
in the Northern fjords map, the history text teaches us that it is positioned just North og glowwater bay (where my Clan have their operational base located).

I really should take time to read those in-game lore parts. Thanks for bringing that up, cause after looking around a bit on the world map I finally realised exactly where the fjords map is located. That makes Navinstaak pretty much the northest part of the baronies reach.

Though I gotta say,  I always imagined you guys to be based in Ravenrook, cause well.. yeah
we changed name to glowwater thralls,  an elite unit located in glowwater, that works for the  barons

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Re: Fjord Baronies
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2013, 07:01:33 pm »
ah I see, just noticed the new tag

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Re: Fjord Baronies
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2013, 04:22:50 am »
from this I also gather that the Capital of the baronies would be located further South, possibly a long way Down. And this Capital would be the home and powerhouse of King Greger (who is also mentioned in the Northern fjords text).

We do actually already know that the capital of the Baronies is Lord's Leap. And it is indeed the seat of King Greger.

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Re: Fjord Baronies
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2013, 01:12:10 am »
in the Northern fjords map, the history text teaches us that it is positioned just North og glowwater bay (where my Clan have their operational base located).
We also hear of raiders and pirates roaming the area and all in all being a security problem to the outskirts of the baronies.

What I take from this knowledge is that Glowwater is based on the edge of the baronies, possibly being the bulwark towards the North, like the Castles build in medieval England towards wales and sctoland would function.

from this I also gather that the Capital of the baronies would be located further South, possibly a long way Down. And this Capital would be the home and powerhouse of King Greger (who is also mentioned in the Northern fjords text).

King is a title given to the ruler of a quantity of lords (this case barons).
WHat we dont know is if there are more Kings in the fjords, being in some sort of council like relyks mentioned.
However my guess is that no King would share his power, or even be capable of agreeing with other Kings in the same faction.

What the Northern fjord text also mentions is that king Greger have troubles keeping control over the Northern fjords area, which I would lead to the fact that he is an undisputed ruler of the baronies to the North and around his Capital.
however the fact that king Greger have troubles gianing control over his regions to the North could also mean that the fjord baronies, is a big political scene where powers shifts over the years. A king cannot protect his borders in a feudal state where his clients do no not abide his power.
A king who controls a feudal country would have a Court that resembles his closest Allies, Family and the sons and daughters of his enemies (hostages were a big part of controlling your enemies or possibly rebel lords. Example is Theon greyjoy in game of thrones who were given to the starks as hostage).

It's all just theories from my side :)

also looking forward to joint operations if both our Clans are fjord based Relyks :)

Heh, well considering my clan is of lawful good alignment not sure how that'd work out.

Also I think the system would be the King, and the the Barons, and their greater and lesser houses.

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Re: Fjord Baronies
« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2013, 09:09:38 am »

I believe the  mission text of the map Raid on the Refinery also states that the facility (the blackcliff metal works) is one of the Baronies'.

That tells us several things:
- the Baronies have a strong and technologically advanced industry
- they probably don't rely on scrap as much as the Angleans or the Arashi League
- they rely heavily on slave labour, as stated in the text
- there are several of these big factories and the labourers are transported between them. I am still not quite sure why they have to change factory in the first place though. If they don't have enough workers and the transports are dangerous, why not concentrate on one facility and dismantle the others? Maybe the factories are specialised on different goods?

If you look at the map (http://www.mobbly.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Guns_of_Icarus_Map.jpg) you can see that Blackcliff is located in an actually rather secure spot, between Chaladon and the Mainland Baronies. As the Chaladonians seem to be a more peaceful nation, one would think that the metal works should be safe from raids.
The fact that they still seem to be a major battlefield shows once again how valuable industry is in this world.