Author Topic: PRINT Guide to Guns of Icarus Online  (Read 18468 times)

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PRINT Guide to Guns of Icarus Online
« on: February 10, 2016, 12:54:44 pm »
Hi people. Dunno if anyone actually read it, but I had to make a guide to Guns of Icarus Online - like, an actual printed book - as part of my school project.

Here it is.

COVER


SKILLS EXAMPLE


SHIP EXAMPLE


GUN EXAMPLE



I still have the source data, in the admittedly unlikely event that anyone actually wants a copy. I'd be willing to sort it out, just talk to me or something.

And Muse, I also have a copy for you guys if you want it.

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Re: PRINT Guide to Guns of Icarus Online
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2016, 01:00:59 pm »
I Need this nao give it to me nao please.

But honestly this looks really awesome and I would really like to own this

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Re: PRINT Guide to Guns of Icarus Online
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2016, 01:07:32 pm »
This is the sort of thing that gives Eric nightmares.

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Re: PRINT Guide to Guns of Icarus Online
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2016, 01:18:57 pm »
Well we'll have to see. I talked to Muse in order to get their permission to create this guide, and they gave me some content to go with it too.

So, yeah. I'm okay on that front.

As for marketing it...well, I think I'd need to talk to Muse about that. I never suggested to them, when I talked to them, that people would want to BUY it. My graphics designer reminded me that Muse would probably want something of it, so I'm withholding the idea of selling it myself.

Muse more than deserves a cut anyway. It's their world, their designs, and their content. I just wrote about it.


P.S: Also, it's admittedly out of date. It doesn't cover the new Alliance stuff, and I no longer have access to the program I used to make it.
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Re: PRINT Guide to Guns of Icarus Online
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2016, 01:30:57 pm »
If digital copies are available before marketing xD

I would love a copy!

Is there a download link?

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Re: PRINT Guide to Guns of Icarus Online
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2016, 01:51:27 pm »
If digital copies are available before marketing xD

I would love a copy!

Is there a download link?

Nah, this was made in a program called Adobe FrameMaker. It's almost purpose-built for PRINT guides. As in, not digital at all.

That and I have no idea how I would release this for, say, Kindle or something like that.

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Re: PRINT Guide to Guns of Icarus Online
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2016, 06:50:49 pm »
Wow, this is really amazing!

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Re: PRINT Guide to Guns of Icarus Online
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2016, 07:29:41 pm »
Name your price, sir!

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Re: PRINT Guide to Guns of Icarus Online
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2016, 09:29:55 pm »
If someone from Muse wants to say "Yes we want a copy" of course they can have one for free. It's their game after all, heh

As for selling it...I'd like to get some authorization from Muse first saying it's okay. I'll be honest and say that I am very poor with both finances and legal expertise, so they could totally screw me over and I wouldn't know. I am therefore reliant on Muse's own integrity as a company to not screw me over, heh.

But if they say it's okay, then I'd be willing to investigate the idea of creating a second run. This run was made specifically for my family and the graphics designer who assisted me.

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Re: PRINT Guide to Guns of Icarus Online
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2016, 05:24:55 am »
This looks pretty cool and could be sold in some collector's edition (perhaps talk about possibility to write sth similar for Alliance?). On other hand - it probably turns useless after a patch or two. So as I said, just a cool gimmick for people who are willing to pay for it.

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Re: PRINT Guide to Guns of Icarus Online
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2016, 08:23:37 pm »
Wow holy @#$% so Howard totally greenlit this thing.

And yeah, Mr.Disaster is right, it's totally more of a novelty thing that will get outdated. But the general tactics remain the same; what will be outdated are the number of weapons, ships, and skills. I can't see them changing the stats for the Whirlwind or anything like that. But, that's part of the deal when you demand stuff on print. The good thing about print though is that you can take it to work and read it surreptitiously =P (neither me nor any of my affiliates condone slacking off)

But...uh, yeah, I'm gonna be taking preorders, guys. This is my first time doing anything like this, so if you're interested, please leave your name here and I'll get in touch with the printer to determine the unit cost; I'm going to be paying out of pocket for the first run, after all.

Additionally, depending on demand, I'll be willing to continue updates when Alliance stuff comes out. We'll have to sort it out later.

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Re: PRINT Guide to Guns of Icarus Online
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2016, 09:43:28 pm »
But the general tactics remain the same; what will be outdated are the number of weapons, ships, and skills. I can't see them changing the stats for the Whirlwind or anything like that.

Additionally, depending on demand, I'll be willing to continue updates when Alliance stuff comes out. We'll have to sort it out later.

Another peer review like your original post? https://gunsoficarus.com/community/forum/index.php/topic,6664.msg113691.html#msg113691

Peer review would be useful because some of the information is incorrect. Your gat is listed as having a high reload speed, high horizontal arcs, and poor vertical depression. The gat has an "average" reload of 5 seconds, average horizontal arcs of 50 degrees, and high(est) vertical depression of 50 degrees. Instead of projectile speed, rate of fire, and accuracy, more useful measures are effective range, empty clip time (not important), and if it's a projectile or raycast weapon (and accuracy thereof). Accuracy doesn't mean anything if you don't specify what type of gun it is (projectile or raycast). Accuracy determines effective range and what ammos are best for increasing the effective range. Burst radius is important to add

Gat can break any armor in one clip while being repaired with mallet
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Re: PRINT Guide to Guns of Icarus Online
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2016, 09:37:27 am »
Peer review would be useful because some of the information is incorrect. Your gat is listed as having a high reload speed, high horizontal arcs, and poor vertical depression. The gat has an "average" reload of 5 seconds, average horizontal arcs of 50 degrees, and high(est) vertical depression of 50 degrees. Instead of projectile speed, rate of fire, and accuracy, more useful measures are effective range, empty clip time (not important), and if it's a projectile or raycast weapon (and accuracy thereof). Accuracy doesn't mean anything if you don't specify what type of gun it is (projectile or raycast). Accuracy determines effective range and what ammos are best for increasing the effective range. Burst radius is important to add

Gat can break any armor in one clip while being repaired with mallet

Truth be told I sort of eyeballed everything based on when I manned the weapon myself; I didn't actually count the degrees of traverse or the rate of fire or reload time. It would be a pain to do and difficult without more experienced peer reviews on the matter but I would be willing to alter that.

The other thing is that the scope of the guide itself, and the number of pages that appear per weapon. Before I started I made it a point to set aside a two-page spread for the guns: one for the gun itself, and the other for the ammunition types that best work for it. Including too much information is not a problem when you're working online with infinite space, but far moreso when you're working on paper.

That being said I'll add it to a list of changes I intend to apply for a version that does go to sell; it all depends now on the demand for it.

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Re: PRINT Guide to Guns of Icarus Online
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2016, 09:53:01 am »
That's awesome!  I can imagine picking up a Guns of Icarus game for my Nintendo 64, opening it up and finding that book!

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Re: PRINT Guide to Guns of Icarus Online
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2016, 01:10:04 pm »
While not exactly fond of the cover the rest of it looks absolutely fantastic.