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Flare damage buff
« on: September 15, 2015, 04:26:18 pm »
Increase AOE fire damage of flare from 5 to 10. This would increase hull damage per shot from 19.5 to 26, and hull dps from 1.79 to 2.36. Very fair

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Re: Flare damage buff
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2015, 05:08:46 pm »
But, flare OP!

Serious note: I can see why a flare buff would be good, but I'd sooner see the harpoon reload reduced.

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Re: Flare damage buff
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2015, 10:03:04 pm »
I'd sooner see the harpoon reload reduced.

Can't agree with that.

Do we really need flares as (more) viable fighting option?

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Re: Flare damage buff
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2015, 10:15:06 pm »
Flares kill too slow and it's better to not shoot flares at hull because it does so little damage and no fire stacks. I'd prefer a +125% buff but 25% is ok.

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Re: Flare damage buff
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2015, 01:45:08 am »
Make gat-gat-flare-flare pyra a thing  :D

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Re: Flare damage buff
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2015, 01:56:52 am »
Make gat-gat-flare-flare pyra a thing  :D

Gunner on rear flare with stamina..
 might allow quad-fecta...

I'd sooner see the harpoon reload reduced.

Can't agree with that.

As it stands now the Harpoon is needed for a shit load of achievements, and no one uses it as it has very little effect or use, its reload time is ridiculously long making one harpoon by itself so ineffective it's painful.

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Re: Flare damage buff
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2015, 02:02:20 am »
Unless you're using a specific trifecta, flare is the only pyra side gun. If you're getting shot just have the main engi flare their guns. Best arcs and 2 second empty. Miss a chem = death.

Flares can quadfecta with almost everything on pyra if you turn slightly (85 degrees).
« Last Edit: September 16, 2015, 02:06:30 am by BlackenedPies »

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Re: Flare damage buff
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2015, 02:23:23 am »
At the extremes of silliness flares can get galleon quadfecta, squid and goldfish trifecta (double flare, double gunner) and junker quinfecta (main deck gunner and normal gunner manning a flare on each side).

IMO if the flare is to do any real direct damage it should be to balloon (which makes sense even if having it deal flechette damage doesn't quite) and only then if they nerf the fps damage.

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Re: Flare damage buff
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2015, 02:33:06 am »
I wonder what causes the lag for some people. I have no flare lag with my graphics at the lowest and 1GB VRAM.

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Re: Flare damage buff
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2015, 02:46:21 am »
I wonder what causes the lag for some people. I have no flare lag with my graphics at the lowest and 1GB VRAM.

New weapon time...heavy flare repeater. It fires two dozen flares at once from a medium mount. 8GB VRAM requirement standard for GOIO :D.

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Re: Flare damage buff
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2015, 03:01:07 am »
I wonder what causes the lag for some people. I have no flare lag with my graphics at the lowest and 1GB VRAM.

I don't suffer it myself but I've had one notable occasion where a flare mob lagged my co-engineer out of the game entirely and crippled my pilot giving the fire stacks a chance to start doing damage.

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Re: Flare damage buff
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2015, 05:52:59 am »
I'm not on the fastest rig in the world and only got Flare lagg during a Clan party.... But that was six ships all with flares...

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Re: Flare damage buff
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2015, 02:32:16 pm »
Make gat-gat-flare-flare pyra a thing  :D

Gunner on rear flare with stamina..
 might allow quad-fecta...

I'd sooner see the harpoon reload reduced.

Can't agree with that.

As it stands now the Harpoon is needed for a shit load of achievements, and no one uses it as it has very little effect or use, its reload time is ridiculously long making one harpoon by itself so ineffective it's painful.

I'm a retard. I meant I can't DISAGREE with that. Sorry. Yeah, harpoon is basically wasted slot.


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Re: Flare damage buff
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2015, 04:18:11 pm »
I Thought that old 20 stacks made it viable. Still don't know why it was changed.