Author Topic: Are there Botmatches?  (Read 5137 times)

Offline Zydrate

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Are there Botmatches?
« on: December 20, 2014, 08:35:26 pm »
Is there a function where I can face against AI opponents, even if at a reduced XP rate?
I feel there's a bit more to learn.
I won four matches with what feels like was a pro on a lower level, then I lost the next few I played without him.
Not sure if he just carried us, or if I am just garbage at this game.

Offline Dr Pantaleon

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Re: Are there Botmatches?
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2014, 08:59:55 pm »
No, there are no AI matches. There is a practise mode though, that might help for some things. Otherwise, just try asking more experienced players for advice in game. There even are a few regular teaching sessions, if I am not mistaken...
For the theory you can always check the guides in this forum, there are really good ones for many things around! But most importantly, just practise :)

Offline ShadedExalt

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Re: Are there Botmatches?
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2014, 10:31:17 pm »
Practice, ask CAs in global chat to show you the ropes... just practice, polish, refine, and blow lots of stuff up.

Offline Nidh

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Re: Are there Botmatches?
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2014, 01:41:31 am »
Don't base your success or failure solely on your own level of skill. This game more than any other relies heavily on teamwork. Your entire ship is only as good as the weakest link on it. That said, if you're new to the game than there's a lot more to learn about being efficient but that also means you shouldn't worry about winning, just learn as much as you can about the ways of a crewman/captain.

Offline Arturo Sanchez

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Re: Are there Botmatches?
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2014, 12:32:32 pm »
Don't base your success or failure solely on your own level of skill. This game more than any other relies heavily on teamwork. Your entire ship is only as good as the weakest link on it. That said, if you're new to the game than there's a lot more to learn about being efficient but that also means you shouldn't worry about winning, just learn as much as you can about the ways of a crewman/captain.

But in novice matches I kept winning. I just learned that other novices couldn't pilot as well as me, as they didn't understand the basic concept of staying out of arc of enemy guns.

I even got told off by people for not just charging in and when I did (on the same matches) it was because of my "poor piloting" that we died. But during AI crew games... boy did they never expect a pilot with just AI to destroy them.

My main tip and what I always teach to any AI members. Do not specialise, be versatile. I learned all 3 classes at the same time and generally kept them at similar levels. Playing each class teaches you about the roles of the other 2 classes. And you gain even understanding as you keep practising these classes.

Back in the old lvling up system, I always felt that I played at a much higher level than most people on my level.

e.g. I was a lvl 333. I beat lvl 6-8 pilots quite easily.

Because with my experience as a gunner I understood guns and the builds that works.

And my experience as a engineer taught me all the weak points of an enemy ship.

And as a pilot I knew the movements and habits of other ships and could strategize to counter.

those lvl 611 and lvl 823 Only understood rudimentary piloting. They held this attitude that engies were just these bots that covered up their screw ups and any death is entirely the fault of the engie (I bet you guys knew that feel at some point). And gunners as people who deliver the kill and any missed chances isn't because of the guns being piloted out of arc. It was because the gunner wasn't omni-present enough to gun the right guns at the right time (even if those right guns are out of arc).

Playing AI in "as you were" taught very important lessons too. It taught that you needed to position your guns and hold the position to give time for teammates to realise locations of targets. And that for ships to repair properly they need room to breath by avoiding combat, so they can actually get on those repairs.

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Re: Are there Botmatches?
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2014, 02:16:54 pm »
You can't reliably base your success on your own skill level, especially not in pub matches.

I find your reliance on a number to determine the skill of another team a bit hypocritical since you clearly consider yourself better than the level shown under your name, implying you don't believe levels accurately show skill.

Every veteran knows that levels mean nothing, and that there are too many factors in a pub match that contribute to a win or a loss to be able to reliably point to a single person's skill.

I've lost versus very low level pilots, and 2v1'd very high level pilots in pub games, but that doesn't mean a single other person on the other team carried/did poorly but that the team as a whole did/did not perform well together