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Offline Lord Dick Tim

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Re: Which existing airship belongs to which faction?
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2014, 07:25:27 pm »
I've made almost the same observations when considering the ships and the flavors we have with the factions so far Gilder.

I would also understand if some of the ships had been created in one location, than adapted dramatically to suit a similar but limited required role for another faction.  Like the Junker, which you noted as modular, may have it's origins from Yesha but found popularity abroad as a support ship for several factions, each tacking on their own flare and flavors.

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Re: Which existing airship belongs to which faction?
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2014, 08:21:37 pm »
I thought the Angleans took most of their ship designs from the Chaledoneans, I'd imagine that's the reason for the similarities.

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Re: Which existing airship belongs to which faction?
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2014, 02:55:15 am »
Chaladonians were late to adopt Airship technology, having to replicate it from Baronies ships that docked there, so Anglea would've had airships before Chaladon.

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Re: Which existing airship belongs to which faction?
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2014, 11:30:58 am »
I've made almost the same observations when considering the ships and the flavors we have with the factions so far Gilder.

I would also understand if some of the ships had been created in one location, than adapted dramatically to suit a similar but limited required role for another faction.  Like the Junker, which you noted as modular, may have it's origins from Yesha but found popularity abroad as a support ship for several factions, each tacking on their own flare and flavors.

can't wait for the ship customisation update!

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Re: Which existing airship belongs to which faction?
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2014, 11:50:07 am »
Chaladonians were late to adopt Airship technology, having to replicate it from Baronies ships that docked there, so Anglea would've had airships before Chaladon.

This may be true, but I'm fairly certain I've heard somewhere that the current ship designs used by Anglea, most notably the squid, came from Chaledon.

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Re: Which existing airship belongs to which faction?
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2014, 02:30:11 pm »
Chaladonians were late to adopt Airship technology, having to replicate it from Baronies ships that docked there, so Anglea would've had airships before Chaladon.

This may be true, but I'm fairly certain I've heard somewhere that the current ship designs used by Anglea, most notably the squid, came from Chaledon.

Yes, you're right, though Chaladon was late to adopt airship technology, they did design the Squid, though I'm not sure how widely used the Squid is in Anglea.

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Re: Which existing airship belongs to which faction?
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2014, 06:04:03 pm »
The Anglean concept art has designs which are very squid like. It wouldn't be odd to me to see that. Imagine them capturing one and then seeing the potential for raiding. But what I do wonder is what their designs were before they incorporated Chaladonian elements. They had to be less optimal.

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Re: Which existing airship belongs to which faction?
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2015, 04:08:46 pm »
I'm gonna necro this topic. It's a good topic anyways.

From last year to this one, I think we've had more info on which ships are related to which faction. And I want to get this right before I make a mistake.

Junker - Arashi
Pyramidion - Yesha
Galleon - Yesha
Squid - Chaladon
Goldfish - Yesha
Spire - Fjord
Mobula - Mercantile

Looks like Angleans don't have a ship design... Anyways, is this about right?

Offline HamsterIV

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Re: Which existing airship belongs to which faction?
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2015, 05:11:22 pm »
I always thought the Pyramidion was Angelean despite what the fluff might say. It seems to built around operating in a cold climate and by crew that favor pragmatism over artistry in their approach to war.

The back deck engine section is reasonably well sheltered and probably warm if the engines running.
The hole in the middle of the deck looks like it should be used for ice fishing.
It is one of the smallest balloon to ship mass ratios indicating either advanced technology or that warm air produces more lift in the area it operates.

It has the best configuration for chasing down fleeing enemies or doing a fighting retreat.
It is slow but well armored indicating that it intends to absorb damage rather than dance around it.
It uses only light weapons perhaps because heavy weapons are harder to maintain and more prone to malfunction in the cold.

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Re: Which existing airship belongs to which faction?
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2015, 06:33:29 am »
I always thought the Pyramidion was Angelean despite what the fluff might say. It seems to built around operating in a cold climate and by crew that favor pragmatism over artistry in their approach to war.

The back deck engine section is reasonably well sheltered and probably warm if the engines running.
The hole in the middle of the deck looks like it should be used for ice fishing.
It is one of the smallest balloon to ship mass ratios indicating either advanced technology or that warm air produces more lift in the area it operates.

It has the best configuration for chasing down fleeing enemies or doing a fighting retreat.
It is slow but well armored indicating that it intends to absorb damage rather than dance around it.
It uses only light weapons perhaps because heavy weapons are harder to maintain and more prone to malfunction in the cold.

these reasons may be why the angeleans favor the design, but it does not mean they invented it.

as angleans raid other territories quite frequently it would make sense that they would get their hands on a few stolen ships. with their lands being rich in techological ruins it would be fairly simple for them to copy the design and make a few modifications to suit their needs.

in a way it makes sense that they do not have a design originating in their culture, it is alot easier to modify a fully functioning airship than design one from the ground up. especially if you take that airship by force.

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Re: Which existing airship belongs to which faction?
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2015, 08:56:09 am »
I always thought the Pyramidion was Angelean despite what the fluff might say. It seems to built around operating in a cold climate and by crew that favor pragmatism over artistry in their approach to war.

The back deck engine section is reasonably well sheltered and probably warm if the engines running.
The hole in the middle of the deck looks like it should be used for ice fishing.
It is one of the smallest balloon to ship mass ratios indicating either advanced technology or that warm air produces more lift in the area it operates.

It has the best configuration for chasing down fleeing enemies or doing a fighting retreat.
It is slow but well armored indicating that it intends to absorb damage rather than dance around it.
It uses only light weapons perhaps because heavy weapons are harder to maintain and more prone to malfunction in the cold.

these reasons may be why the angeleans favor the design, but it does not mean they invented it.

as angleans raid other territories quite frequently it would make sense that they would get their hands on a few stolen ships. with their lands being rich in techological ruins it would be fairly simple for them to copy the design and make a few modifications to suit their needs.

in a way it makes sense that they do not have a design originating in their culture, it is alot easier to modify a fully functioning airship than design one from the ground up. especially if you take that airship by force.

Or the Angleans are too busy rebuilding one of the leviathans which crash landed, and this shall be their ship, escorted by stolen neighbouring territories ships.
8)

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Re: Which existing airship belongs to which faction?
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2015, 11:39:17 am »
When people design things they do so for their own needs and with consideration for their technical limitations. The pyramidion has an ice fishing hole. What other faction would want to go Ice fishing?
It also has one of the highest mass to balloon volume ratios in the game. Whoever designed it knew they would have access to technology that would produce more lift per cubic meter of gas than any other ship in the game. Once again pointing to the Angeleans.

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Re: Which existing airship belongs to which faction?
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2015, 03:40:04 pm »
Asked Dev Chat, Pyramidion is a Yeshan ship... sry Hamster.

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Re: Which existing airship belongs to which faction?
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2015, 04:12:46 pm »
What if yesha just expanded to the cold and needed a vanguard against the fierce anglean raiders?



A vanguard and a fishing platform...

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Re: Which existing airship belongs to which faction?
« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2015, 04:37:03 pm »
What if yesha just expanded to the cold and needed a vanguard against the fierce anglean raiders?

A vanguard and a fishing platform...
Yeshan invasion of Anglea is now cannon.

Brash, ambitious Yeshan generals would lead a campaign against the northern raiders. They would often return stripped of all their valuables, if they returned at all.