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Re: "You didn't bring Heavy clip?!?!" - A weaponry guide for beginners.
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2013, 04:37:15 am »
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Incidiery lowers damage,
Huh? Really? According to GoI wiki it's just "+20% increased fire ignition chance on hit, -25% projectile speed, -30% clip size, -30% rate of fire." There is nothing about decreased damage.

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Re: "You didn't bring Heavy clip?!?!" - A weaponry guide for beginners.
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2013, 11:16:37 am »
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Incidiery lowers damage,
Huh? Really? According to GoI wiki it's just "+20% increased fire ignition chance on hit, -25% projectile speed, -30% clip size, -30% rate of fire." There is nothing about decreased damage.
Technically speaking, lower fire rate means lower damage output.

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Re: "You didn't bring Heavy clip?!?!" - A weaponry guide for beginners.
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2013, 11:35:00 am »
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Incidiery lowers damage,
Huh? Really? According to GoI wiki it's just "+20% increased fire ignition chance on hit, -25% projectile speed, -30% clip size, -30% rate of fire." There is nothing about decreased damage.
Technically speaking, lower fire rate means lower damage output.
By reducing the clip size and fire rate, the overall DPS is lowered. However, with the addition of fire, its hard to really say how much damage it can do.

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Re: "You didn't bring Heavy clip?!?!" - A weaponry guide for beginners.
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2013, 02:38:10 am »
Not that hard to say.  The answer is a heck of a lot less.

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Re: "You didn't bring Heavy clip?!?!" - A weaponry guide for beginners.
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2013, 05:54:25 am »
I see you followed the steps of writing a guide I posted a while go. Props.

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Re: "You didn't bring Heavy clip?!?!" - A weaponry guide for beginners.
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2013, 09:07:14 pm »
Alright, some corrections that I'd like,

At the Banshee ammo loadouts, I type 'Incidiery' it should be 'Incendiary' as someone corrected, also if someone can edit it, take out the part of the flare gun having no random spread and do write that the flaregun has a massive random spread.

Also, at the Barking Dog's description, the very last sentese just before the ammo a loadouts, I write 'continuously', should be corrected to 'continiously'.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2013, 09:09:43 pm by EchoLG »

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Re: "You didn't bring Heavy clip?!?!" - A weaponry guide for beginners.
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2013, 11:23:22 pm »
Alright, some corrections that I'd like,

At the Banshee ammo loadouts, I type 'Incidiery' it should be 'Incendiary' as someone corrected

Done.

I write 'continuously', should be corrected to 'continiously'.

Actually, "continuously" is the correct spelling.

the flaregun has a massive random spread.

No it doesn't...

It spreads a bit... It's hardly massive.

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Re: "You didn't bring Heavy clip?!?!" - A weaponry guide for beginners.
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2013, 01:46:04 am »
the flaregun has a massive random spread.

No it doesn't...

It spreads a bit... It's hardly massive.
Its the same as the light flak, isn't it?

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Re: "You didn't bring Heavy clip?!?!" - A weaponry guide for beginners.
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2013, 08:37:03 am »
the flaregun has a massive random spread.

No it doesn't...

It spreads a bit... It's hardly massive.
Its the same as the light flak, isn't it?

You're the dev, you tell me!

But I guess "massive" can be very relative. Even if it's larger than most guns, though, I'd hardly call it massive. The hwacha has massive spread, for example.

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Re: "You didn't bring Heavy clip?!?!" - A weaponry guide for beginners.
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2013, 08:58:37 am »
the spread is comparative to the light flak.

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Re: "You didn't bring Heavy clip?!?!" - A weaponry guide for beginners.
« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2013, 09:16:45 am »
Honestly, I find it easier to get a direct hit at close range on a heavy gun using the flare than with the flak.

EDIT: Updated to say that it has roughly the same spread as the flak. Sorry for that tangent, Echo, I just didn't want the guide to paint what wouldn't necessarily have been a proper picture of the gun.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2013, 09:21:05 am by N-Sunderland »

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Re: "You didn't bring Heavy clip?!?!" - A weaponry guide for beginners.
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2013, 02:55:30 pm »
All is fine as long as it is correct, I don't mind if I make any mistakes and get called out on them, I just wanna be sure the readers will get the most out of this ^^

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Re: "You didn't bring Heavy clip?!?!" - A weaponry guide for beginners.
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2013, 03:39:48 pm »
Just a nit picky thing, Burst is my preferred ammo type for and Artemis primary gun since it increases the chance one or more components will be in the AOE of the weapon. Since the patch, the Artemis turns too slowly to be useful as a 2ndary weapon (inspite of its wide field of fire) however if you load Heatsink clip the turning rate becomes acceptable again. I can see how lesmok rounds would be desirable for people learning how to lead targets or fighting at extreme range, but it does not complement the gun as well as other ammo types.

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Re: "You didn't bring Heavy clip?!?!" - A weaponry guide for beginners.
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2013, 05:10:38 pm »
I said the flare gun had about as much spread as the light flak, but you didn't believe me =p

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Re: "You didn't bring Heavy clip?!?!" - A weaponry guide for beginners.
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2013, 05:48:35 pm »
You were indeed right naufrago, I tested from a standing still ship and it does have a random spread equivalent to that of the flak, if not more.

And yes Burst is my preferred ammo type for the Artemis as well, though this is a beginner guide after all, and people that aren't too experienced with how the gun works, might want to at least hit something c: