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Do we have any other ideas?
A public Trello board would be nice to have.
I believe there is one. Let me get back to you on that
That way, players might actually be encouraged to use other ammos in weapons like the Hwacha and Artemis.
And, after all, this ship is gonna be a workhorse for pilots like me engaged in my never-ending penance training scrubs. I can only assume the simple name "Brig" is a reference to the n00b prison it will become for the pilot, already trapped in a cage. More metaphors, please.Tell the newbie pilots that. The devs too. Kept telling Keyvias or however it's spelt that I needed help rebuilding. Tried hinting that the pilot should help rebuild. Didn't get the hint. Spire captain absolutely has to be mobile for the ship to be effective.
This is also why I bring a Spanner as a Pyramidion pilot... I cannot count the number of times I've quickly helped rebuild the hull out of the red and saved my skin. Literally thousands of times.New combinations will be possible (and likely OP), being dual Hades, and dual merc, making the Spire its own worst enemy.
This ship has some of the easiest to disable weapons in the game, with them being closely packed, towards the center of the hull, and completely unprotected. This is what makes burst Artemis such a strong counter to the Spire, as 5 shots can easily disable every gun on the ship, and it's possible to hit multiple guns with one shot.
While technically the third heaviest ship in the game (tied with the Goldfish), it is only 150 tons compared to the (absurd) 300 tons of the Pyramidion. This combined with the largest hull profile in the game (and low amount of armor on the current version) makes this ship both easy to ram and easy to kill with a ram.
To both pilot and bring full firepower to bear, you have to give up speed of repair. Two engineers up top and gunner rotating bottom guns means the balloon is going to be extremely vulnerable.
To have full firepower and efficient repairs, the pilot has to get off the helm and use the second gun and assist in armor repair. This method is likely the most optimal, but this method requires a lot more skill from the pilot as they need to set up the ship to drift favorably before they leave the helm.
There is a barrier preventing jumping from the helm to the hull quickly. Attempting to jump to the helm will result in bonking this wall and falling straight down with no forward momentum. This makes it faster to walk down the ramp of slowness than to do what is normally the optimal thing and jump over it. Probably the one detail that makes me never want to fly the Spire no matter what they do to it, especially since I would have to be using that ramp a lot.
I suggest bumping the weight up to at least 200 while maintaining its maneuverability. This will improve its resilience to ramming and terrain collision.
On the wiki, Mobula's vertical acceleration is 4.5 m/s2. So the proposed vertical acceleration will be pretty crazy.
The proposed change to speed will push the Spire further into its support/sniping role. It was already the third slowest ship, faster only than the Mobula and Junker. Being slower than the Junker, it may have considerable issues keeping up with the battle outside of sniping.
The proposed changes to the hull and armor may give more viability to having two top-side engineers for tanking, but will demand even more that the pilot help rebuild the hull as it remains the closest hull to the helm on any ship but now takes a ton of work to rebuild.
The proposed changes to arcs makes the gun placement comparable to the Pyramidion, but with a heavy gun. Quad is still possible by angling ship to the right during engagement. Expect to see double hades/merc + Hflak with lower left artemis/banshee.
Hopefully the decreased horizontal speed will make up for that firepower...
Sorry Jedi, but scoreboard and spot bug status are not that vital compaired to the situation when nobody in the red team can spawn their bloody ships.
Perhaps by giving it an arming time and then introducing a new short-range shatter-disable gun as a light weapon.
Fixes for both the scoreboard [...] beginning of next week.
Testing for 1.4.5 occurred over an unprecedented three weeks, with each week met by unanimous negative feedback about two topics in particular: mobula gun arcs and the changes to loch. After the feedback, the mob nerf was increased and loch was made more unbalanced. The release of 1.4.5 showed a complete disregard of player feedback and lack of game knowledge
To be clear, there's an important difference between a bad change and a broken change. Remember the contentious pyra nerf? Truth was, the pyra needed a nerf in pub matches. The forthcoming change was too harsh and took way too long to be addressed, but there was at least a modicum of thought behind it. The mobula gun arc nerf was asinine and broken. It had no effect on the meta, hades art/banshee, and only hurt non-meta builds and pub players whose 50 degree bottom guns no longer worked. Similarly, loch was changed so that it deals higher dps than greased on some guns, and is useless on all heavy weapons - where it was previously vital
Muse was well aware of all these facts as they were flooded with feedback from the three weeks of testing the same failed changes. There were plenty of good alternatives offered for the mob and loch, but week after week nothing changed. I'm unaware of any other patch that took three weeks of testing, or was so overwhelmingly negative
Interesting point, pies, I'd love to go over this in more detail in a second thread. I'm coming from the angle of player retention and the "knowledge burden" new captains often get saddled with. Good point with how it does seem to escalate tension. And there ARE less captians then crew in any given match. So there'd be less players overall that make loadout mistakes. I'll chew on this for a while.
But yeah, I don't see what's wrong with a message saying "The captian has changed their ship. Your loadout has been modified."--or something along those lines, as long as engineers can modify their load out after the ship has been changed.
It may bring some frustration to new captians that don't know what ammo/loadout is needed. But to be fair that's an issue already with ship loadouts.
I don't mean that players should automatically be given loadouts based on the captain's setup, rather the same system of giving out loadouts but without the ability to decline - the notification of the loadout pops up with an OK button (or similar). There are plenty of times where you don't want to give out loadouts, like if you don't have one ready, are using an alternate setup, or the crew already has an acceptable loadout
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