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Feedback and Suggestions / Re: Leaver penalty
« on: August 08, 2013, 06:50:49 pm »
Banning people is preventing them to play the game, so no we're not banning them.

We're stopping them from joining another match if they have left a match that is still in progress, and we give them the oppertunity to reconnect to that match.

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Feedback and Suggestions / Re: Leaver penalty
« on: August 08, 2013, 04:37:28 pm »
Banning people for simply leaving is what LoL does, which I think is a really bad way of doing things and so I think the best thing would be to reward good players

Please read what I just said above you...

We're not punishing them because we're not banning them for leaving.

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Feedback and Suggestions / Re: Leaver penalty
« on: August 08, 2013, 04:16:28 pm »
I am a bit confused by how you guys keep referring to the idea suggested here as punishment, while it is not.


Let me explain again and hopefully you will see it is NOT a punishment.
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If you leave a match, you cannot join another match untill the match you've left has ended. However, you can still at any time choose to reconnect to the match you've left.

Few facts about above explained suggested rule:
- This does NOT prevent you from being able to play the game, as you can always return to the match you've disconnected from.
- This will make people less likely to leave a match, cause if they do, they cannot join another/ different match.
- When you need to leave because of IRL things, you'll have no bother by this rule, because by the time you would be back, the match has long finished already.


Also, I like you guys doing some brainstorming on this problem, but please: STOP trying to defend people that leave matches, may it be ragequit, IRL issues or anything else. We're not punishing them because we're not banning them for leaving. We are just preventing them from being able to join another match till the one they left ended.

Also I do not at all think that it is a good idea to search for the solution for this problem at the people who DO play matches till the end, since these are not the people that cause the problem. The solution to this problem should be focussed at the people that cause the problem, thus the leavers.

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Feedback and Suggestions / Re: Leaver penalty
« on: August 06, 2013, 10:27:41 am »
Yep, but what I wanted to say is that I'm not a fan of punishing people, I prefer trying to find more "peaceful" solutions.

It's not really a punishment tho is it? I mean, you either wait till the match you left has ended, or you reconnect to the match. What's punishing about that?

It's definitely a punishment. Not to mention that I've been in games that have lasted over 30 minutes. To limit the game like that would be ludicrous. I like the idea of commendations for staying, or a revamped commendation system that allows you to earn some kind of rewards for round loyalty.

Then again, maybe rage quitting isn't as big of a problem as it seems and we're just noting a few bad apples. Still, limiting gameplay based on other people should be avoided at all costs. Muse makes it very clear they aren't interested in putting in anything that would scare off new players and that a player's access to a game should not be controlled by others.

It's not a punishment (that prevents you from playing the game). You can reconnect to the match you left at anytime, so once more, it does not prevent you from playing in a match. You just are not allowed to leave the match you started in and join another match, before it's came to an end.

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Feedback and Suggestions / Re: Leaver penalty
« on: August 06, 2013, 06:37:08 am »
Yep, but what I wanted to say is that I'm not a fan of punishing people, I prefer trying to find more "peaceful" solutions.

It's not really a punishment tho is it? I mean, you either wait till the match you left has ended, or you reconnect to the match. What's punishing about that?

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Feedback and Suggestions / Re: Leaver penalty
« on: August 06, 2013, 06:08:41 am »
I can understand rage quitting when you end up in a "bad" team, where no one communicates, captains don't work together and you get stomped by the enemy team. I don't rage quit, and I think it puts people in a bad mood to be losing and to see everyone leaving, thus encouraging them even more to leave. We shouldn't forget there is a Surrender button ( but if nobody communicates, I don't see how they will all agree to surrender ).

Maybe on of the reasons people ragequit is that quite often, I see tons of beginner matches, but when I play in a regular lobby, there are still some totally new people that join, and if the teams are not balanced to counter it, they end up in the losing team and it causes some ragequit.

There's a big difference between "understanding ragequitting" and "supporting ragequitting"

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Feedback and Suggestions / Re: Leaver penalty
« on: August 06, 2013, 05:54:20 am »
As much as I'd like to see a way to stomp rage quitters, there's many occasions in my life that could cause me to drop a game for a series of reasons beyond being a sore loser.

I feel like punishing people for dropping out of games they're getting spanked in or not having fun in is akin to the very reason Muse doesn't allow vote kick. It just sounds like a great way to turn more new people off.

However, maybe leaving TOO MANY games in rapid succession could net you a 5 minute cool down before you can join a new game? That sounds more reasonable.

Well, if you have to leave a game for something IRL, the only penalty that you will get is to wait till the game you left ended before you can join a new game. I think you'll hardly notice anything of that if you had to drop out of a game because of something in reallife...

And well, there's ALWAYS the button that  allows you to reconnects to the game you left? ;)

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Feedback and Suggestions / Leaver penalty
« on: August 05, 2013, 08:22:01 pm »
Hello people..

I see to many teams/ships getting completely abandoned these days and that really ruins alot of fun.

I think this game needs a leaver penalty.
Very simple: if you leave a match, you can't play another match untill the match you left has ended, either by surrendering or by being victory/defeated.

This only counts for INGAME, so lobby part doesn't count in this.


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