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Title: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on May 07, 2016, 09:49:54 am
So muse really likes getting youtubers to promote the game.

And it gives a poor impression because they all suck.
What if they had a period of time of intensive training by decorated veterans before being made to fight each other after that training period.

The series would be both a bunch of tutorials and entertainment.

With this people do go in knowing exactly how to play. Depending on scale it could be a knock out tourney or just a best out of 3 2 v 2.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: nanoduckling on May 07, 2016, 10:00:37 am
I think this is a great idea, but I doubt you will find many prominent Youtubers willing to do it. It isn't because they are selfish or don't care, but because the time invested to revenue generated for a project like this is poor, and they need to do things like pay for recording equipment and eat, all the while maintaining the popularity of their channel. To do that they need to produce lots of interesting content fast. If you can find some way to make this sexy and sell and keep eyeballs fixed for the duration of the video you might find some willing, but odds are good if you try to make a deal imposing too much creative control folks will just walk away.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: MightyKeb on May 07, 2016, 10:10:33 am
Or find a way to involve youtubers with the competitive scene, whether it be co casting a comp match, being in the crew of a competitive ship etc.

It's an undeniable truth that the PvP mode of this game is fundamentally very competitive, appealing to it's nature is the single best way to attract an audience that guarantees a sizable portion staying.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Skymonger on May 07, 2016, 04:41:02 pm
I didn't realize muse still had people advertising the game on YouTube.

I thought it was over back in 2014.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on May 07, 2016, 05:22:00 pm
nop. despite us telling them. they still just made another sponsored video earlier in the year.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Richard LeMoon on May 07, 2016, 05:31:52 pm
The Youtubers they target mostly right now are the goofballs, not the serious competitive gamers. They might go for it if they could broadcast bootcamp highlights in a musical montage of intensive training of people yelling at them how much they suck.


Now, if you want the serious competitive YTers to play you would have to do something different. They only do games they are good at and are intensely serious about. They will also only do games that are largely popular.... So, a catch 22 on that avenue.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Skymonger on May 08, 2016, 03:22:53 pm
So who essentially still plays GOI on YouTube and makes videos out of them?
I'm not finding any recent ones.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: GurasOguras on May 09, 2016, 02:06:55 am
Muse should invest in steamers, not youtubers. The game needs to be shown from the good side which is high level play, not some noobs shooting carronade at hull and calling this gun crap on the video.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Solidusbucket on May 09, 2016, 02:22:13 am
Muse should invest in steamers, not youtubers. The game needs to be shown from the good side which is high level play, not some noobs shooting carronade at hull and calling this gun crap on the video.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: The Mann on May 09, 2016, 08:38:27 am
I agree, they should pay people at conventions with food.  8)

I can see this becoming a positive and beneficial campaign for all involved.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on May 09, 2016, 04:24:29 pm
A con competitive scene is something I would want.

Plus many players are based in US.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Kamoba on May 13, 2016, 08:33:04 am
I had a YouTuber on my ship once... Who was playing with audio off...
A shame because if he had audio off he may have been useful...

But yes, YouTubers who get paid to advertise the game should meet criteria..

No more bullshit crap JonTron fuck ups, I can't believe they paid him and that video was what he produced.

YouTubers used to have to earn a living, now they're getting too big for their boots and being dicks about it...
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on May 13, 2016, 09:15:58 am
I had a YouTuber on my ship once... Who was playing with audio off...
A shame because if he had audio off he may have been useful...

But yes, YouTubers who get paid to advertise the game should meet criteria..

No more bullshit crap JonTron fuck ups, I can't believe they paid him and that video was what he produced.

YouTubers used to have to earn a living, now they're getting too big for their boots and being dicks about it...

lol I played with jontron under that name on that youtube video.

I don't regret yelling at him. He was so was bad. Just goes to show I treat every bad player equally.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Hoja Lateralus on May 14, 2016, 06:03:44 am
I had a YouTuber on my ship once... Who was playing with audio off...
A shame because if he had audio off he may have been useful...

But yes, YouTubers who get paid to advertise the game should meet criteria..

No more bullshit crap JonTron fuck ups, I can't believe they paid him and that video was what he produced.

YouTubers used to have to earn a living, now they're getting too big for their boots and being dicks about it...

lol I played with jontron under that name on that youtube video.

I don't regret yelling at him. He was so was bad. Just goes to show I treat every bad player equally.

Thanks for being the voice of the vets, Ceres. I would shout at him too.
And I'm still not over that situation.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Lanliss on May 14, 2016, 05:30:28 pm
I had a YouTuber on my ship once... Who was playing with audio off...
A shame because if he had audio off he may have been useful...

But yes, YouTubers who get paid to advertise the game should meet criteria..

No more bullshit crap JonTron fuck ups, I can't believe they paid him and that video was what he produced.

YouTubers used to have to earn a living, now they're getting too big for their boots and being dicks about it...

lol I played with jontron under that name on that youtube video.

I don't regret yelling at him. He was so was bad. Just goes to show I treat every bad player equally.

For a long while my friend, who loves watching jontron, had been telling me I needed to watch his video for GoIo. I finally got around to it and, wow. The only word I can really think of is Horrorshow. I have never gotten a player that behaved anything like he did. Is his behavior the norm for the bad new players I see people talking about?  Or do you think he was just doing that for extra giggles?
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: The Mann on May 14, 2016, 05:52:51 pm
Extra giggles.

Most new players are nice albeit sometimes have difficulty understanding.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Solidusbucket on May 15, 2016, 01:26:40 am
I thought jontron's video was hilarious. He even won the match.

He actually says he thinks the teamwork is cool.

yall are haters.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Lanliss on May 15, 2016, 05:21:32 am
I thought jontron's video was hilarious. He even won the match.

He actually says he thinks the teamwork is cool.

yall are haters.

I just found the behavior in his video a bit annoying. First move as engie? Hop on the big gun. Shield is down? Ignore it, and say that you know it's your fault. I understand he did it as a joke, but I didn't find that joke very funny.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: The Mann on May 15, 2016, 06:17:06 am
Either way, all the videos have been published and the promotions are done.

The way I see it. Regardless of the communities interest in competitive, these players all had fun and worked together. The video with Jontron was not actually part of the actual promotion. That was involving a competition with other youtubers which I assisted in. An example of this would be Team Four Star. Their behaviour can be a little interesting to say the least but they worked together and they had fun in the process.

Sure,  there are complaints about their gameplay but they showcased how fun the game can be with friends.

Alot of the community play more with friends than in competitive teams which are mainly clan based.

The Iron Fork is a popular example of a semi-competitive scene where everyone can join in.
Even the spread your wings events are going well without dedicated teams.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on May 15, 2016, 09:33:07 am
I thought jontron's video was hilarious. He even won the match.

He actually says he thinks the teamwork is cool.

yall are haters.

As a person who actually played with him. No. No victory was ever because of him. He is AWFUL.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Hoja Lateralus on May 19, 2016, 06:28:15 pm
I thought jontron's video was hilarious. He even won the match.

He actually says he thinks the teamwork is cool.

yall are haters.

I just found the behavior in his video a bit annoying. First move as engie? Hop on the big gun. Shield is down? Ignore it, and say that you know it's your fault. I understand he did it as a joke, but I didn't find that joke very funny.

What Lanliss said. This is not okay. This is far from okay.
JonTron behaved in a way no sane vet would want a crewmember to behave. The jumping on 'teh bugh guuhn" is a great example. This is a player that would ruin my game, I would block and report him.
Do you want vets to be assholes Muse? Because that's how you make vets be assholes.
Youtubers are idiots, I get this, but I have problem with Muse showing up this video on their page. This kind of behaviour should not be tolerated and surely it should not be displayed on official media. This thing is a spit into every vet's face.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Schwalbe on May 20, 2016, 05:36:11 am
Ya'll fuckers reminded me of CancerTron's video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rdAZ7oATfc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rdAZ7oATfc)
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Allons-GER on July 29, 2016, 08:56:01 am
AFAIK the question was not wich YT´er is worst but to attract good ones ? Who knows some that do a favour to the game ? Best, Allons!
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Schwalbe on July 29, 2016, 09:42:17 am
If I was to attract a player, it would be TearOfGrace, though I'm almost sure he would bash GOIO from every single point. Yet I know that he might actually try learning something if approached from appropriate angle.

Others would be TomatoGaming and Sugawolf.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Hoja Lateralus on July 29, 2016, 11:06:31 am
WarOwl would surely treat it seriously. Just look how serious (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k_UycNtkoM) he is. He's a good CS:GO player though and he coined saying "In CS:GO your character doesn't get better - YOU get better" so it's worth giving a shot.

Edit: he's very open with his viewers though so buying good reviews is a no-no, just sayan
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on July 30, 2016, 03:13:52 pm
Main thing that's gonna turn most of these players off are the shit players you get with every pub.

You just can't avoid a lobby that has either a pilot that doesn't know what positioning is or a pilot that doesn't know what guns do yet still presume to think he knows wtf he's doing.

Hence why I proposed this thread, with the vet community exposure in mind. They get introduced to te vet community and get trained by te vet community and take on the tone of play of a vet.

Wherein being a freaking retard isn't a thing (it sadly is in this game, but it SHOULDN'T BE). You play, make mistakes, acknowledge those mistakes and make a sincere and active attempt to play BETTER.


As opposed to the common manchild bollocks of blame shifting and childish trolling instead of playing the damn game. Let's be frank here. Stacks exist because the stacked side actively tries to play. While the pleb side actively tries to be a failure.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Schwalbe on July 30, 2016, 04:03:04 pm
Erm... yeah. I can't speak for the rest, but that's what I had in mind when proposing my types. Cause I know these guys have that "Gid gud" mindset.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Lysanya on July 30, 2016, 07:30:43 pm
Hence why I proposed this thread, with the vet community exposure in mind. They get introduced to te vet community and get trained by te vet community and take on the tone of play of a vet.

Plans are actually being formed as of a couple of days ago to tackle this very problem.
Title: Re: Youtubers bootcamp?
Post by: Hoja Lateralus on July 30, 2016, 07:41:26 pm
In the perfect world I'd see a promotion material with some mid-high tier competetive match with 'every' player POV recorded previously, montaged together to show the most important actions and since it is a competetive match there would also be commentary (perhaps some additional adnotations on the screen to say what's really happening). But I realise this requires all people to be on board with it so they send their gameplays to Muse and then a lot of work.