Guns Of Icarus Online

Off-Topic => The Pit => Topic started by: Cancaro on September 21, 2015, 05:41:09 am

Title: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Cancaro on September 21, 2015, 05:41:09 am
There seems to be a generation of players, which seems to be the one grown in the last year, who consider the engines as something optional, like the range finder.
Maybe there was a boy scouts sale somewhere I didn't know of, because they all like to set up a tent and camp somewhere. "Eventually they will come to us", that's what both teams are thinking while the hours goes by.
Don't misunderstand me, I'm not writing this out of rage (spawn-killing those guys in the enemy home is one of the most satisfactory thing for me); I don't even find that illogical 'cause... you know... a flying airships game! Who wouldn't want to stay still in one place staring at beautiful clouds?
Some of you may object that piloting and outmaneuver the enemy could be much more entertaining for anyone, even for the crew, but... EXCUSE ME?! This isn't star wars, we're flying zeppelins, duh!
Others may say that this game isn't a Flying Turret Simulator, and pretend that adjust the fighting tactic according to the enemy behavior is the soul of any team/co-op game, as well as the proof you're a good strategist/captain. Again, you people don't even know what you're talking about. Isn't camping a strategy? Works for everyone, except high level players but that's because they are pro. Maybe doesn't work even with coordinated teams, but that's just because the ally sucks.
So.. the point of all this post is an awesome suggestion! Why not make the engines a tool the captain can bring, along with kerosene, parachute and such? That's the smartest thing because without them the ship has:
- less component to repair;
- less volume the enemy can hit;
- less weight for hydrogen;
- less noise (statistics says that main engineers on pyramidions have more than 63% of probability of becoming deaf before hitting 40 years old).
Think about it. At least you can make the main engine as a tool, and leave the turning ones.
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: SiepeAssassina on September 21, 2015, 06:13:59 am
If you ask me, engines are too heavy and sometimes an unwanted waste of space.
Just like the helm.
Let's remove those engines from the Spire and bring back her fixed-turret operation as a lot of people would really enjoy that. (Not me but still)

Sincerely a bored player. :D
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Kamoba on September 21, 2015, 10:26:27 am
It started as a gradual thing... Low level engineers ignored the rear left engine of every goldfish around, so Pilots stopped using helm tools, this left them weak to "LION GUNS EVERYWHERE" attacks, which broke everything on the ship, so the low level players would beg their captains to not move, this allowed them to play stationary sniper matches, like old school Dunes matches, except everyone was sniping with "LION GUNS BECAUSE DAKKA DAKKA 360NOSCOPE.BOOM!" except everyone was out of range, those who dared to attack spawn would find "DAKKA DAKKA LION GUNS!!!" camped by double gunner ships weilding spanners and an engineer with Chem, Ext and pipe wrench, because the engineer is only a fire fighter now, his job, to stop the balloon burning to death....

Now the most common tactic.is to take as many "LION GUNS TOU S.O.B!" into your spawn and waits...

It's rumoured some competitive teams are practicing this tactic in an attempt to force coin toss draws at competitions...
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Coiler on September 21, 2015, 11:23:36 am
Leave it to Kamomba to drop the Bomba ..
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: SiepeAssassina on September 21, 2015, 12:03:40 pm
It started as a gradual thing... Low level engineers ignored the rear left engine of every goldfish around, so Pilots stopped using helm tools, this left them weak to "LION GUNS EVERYWHERE" attacks, which broke everything on the ship, so the low level players would beg their captains to not move, this allowed them to play stationary sniper matches, like old school Dunes matches, except everyone was sniping with "LION GUNS BECAUSE DAKKA DAKKA 360NOSCOPE.BOOM!" except everyone was out of range, those who dared to attack spawn would find "DAKKA DAKKA LION GUNS!!!" camped by double gunner ships weilding spanners and an engineer with Chem, Ext and pipe wrench, because the engineer is only a fire fighter now, his job, to stop the balloon burning to death....

Now the most common tactic.is to take as many "LION GUNS TOU S.O.B!" into your spawn and waits...

It's rumoured some competitive teams are practicing this tactic in an attempt to force coin toss draws at competitions...
LION GUN OP!!!!!!!

I'd also like to remember how Desert Scrap used to be, now it's a LIONFEST.
Basically:
. Pick 3 galleons w/ 4 LIONGUNS(TM);
. Run inside the point
. Set the parking brake
. ? ? ?
. Profit
#JustStaminaThings #LionGun
All hail the liongun!
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Kamoba on September 21, 2015, 12:19:22 pm
Leave it to Kamomba to drop the Bomba ..

I didn't drop the bomb... I loaded the gunner into the LIONGUN(tm) and screamed "BURST AMMO" then killed the engines with moonshine and cried at lack of repairs...

:)
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Carn on September 21, 2015, 12:22:24 pm
I think this is Pit-worthy. Also, I'm thinking Muse just needs to remove hull armor. I hate that it takes so long for LIONGUN to break it.
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: HamsterIV on September 21, 2015, 12:22:44 pm
If Muse would implement variable direction wind based on height, then we could duel with more elegant hot air balloons instead of these cumbersome airships. A lever to heat the air and the slow dissipation of heat via entropy are all the controls a real pilot needs.
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Hoja Lateralus on September 21, 2015, 12:39:55 pm
Do what you must, but don't touch our mines.

*hugs his mine murmuring "my prescious"*
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: SiepeAssassina on September 21, 2015, 01:26:16 pm
I think this is Pit-worthy. Also, I'm thinking Muse just needs to remove hull armor. I hate that it takes so long for LIONGUN to break it.
IKR, LIONGUN is too nerfed... pls MUSE fix and nerf pyra some more
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Carn on September 21, 2015, 03:04:58 pm
Do what you must, but don't touch our mines.

*hugs his mine murmuring "my prescious"*
Tremble and cower before we who use Muids, moonshine, and tar.
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: SiepeAssassina on September 21, 2015, 03:34:47 pm
Do what you must, but don't touch our mines.

*hugs his mine murmuring "my prescious"*

I'll quit playing the day Muse nerf mines...
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Coiler on September 21, 2015, 03:47:47 pm
I'll quit playing the day Muse nerf mines...
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: MightyKeb on September 21, 2015, 05:15:28 pm
I'll quit playing the day Muse nerf mines...
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Carn on September 21, 2015, 05:19:00 pm
I'll quit playing the day Muse nerf mines...
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Newbluud on September 21, 2015, 05:29:56 pm
I'll quit playing the day Muse nerf mines...
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Cancaro on September 21, 2015, 05:34:55 pm
I'll quit playing the day Muse nerf mines...
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Hoja Lateralus on September 21, 2015, 06:44:03 pm
I'll quit playing the day Muse nerf mines...
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: DJ Logicalia on September 21, 2015, 06:50:46 pm
I'll quit playing the day Muse nerf mines...
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: SiepeAssassina on September 21, 2015, 06:56:36 pm
I'll quit playing the day Muse nerf mines...
I agree.

EDIT
Oh it was my post...
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: SiepeAssassina on September 21, 2015, 06:58:24 pm
Also, Mines are starting to feel weaker and weaker against LIONGUNS, stamina and camping...
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Kamoba on September 21, 2015, 08:01:54 pm
I'll quit playing the day Muse nerf mines...

The quote pyramid finally found a legitimate cause..
P.s. I agree.

Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: BlackenedPies on September 21, 2015, 09:51:07 pm
tHE PIT. Was waiting for that. Apparently Muse can't change the mines to not impact at under 20 meters or viably be destroyed, or else everyone will stop playing.
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on September 22, 2015, 12:20:20 am
MAKES THE HELICOPTERS STAY. THEY ARE SUPER COOL.
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Cancaro on September 22, 2015, 03:51:48 am
Why move this conversation to the pit? We're all absolutely serious. No engines and MOAR LIONGUN™ PLZ!11!!1!!
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Neusy on September 22, 2015, 04:04:23 am
I'll quit playing the day Muse nerf mines...
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Ultimate Pheer on September 22, 2015, 07:30:28 am
I'll quit playing the day Muse nerf mines...
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: SiepeAssassina on September 22, 2015, 07:31:46 am
This message was very serious indeed, hidden behind some sillines.

Camping in Guns has become a thing.
Do I care? No.

But some changes that has been made to this game are actually encouraging this behaviour by providing a more casual gameplay.
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Coiler on September 22, 2015, 08:04:54 am
please nerf mines
top kek. Id expect something like this to be said from one of the novices that get pummeled and dont know what's going on with the ship blowing up so suddenly. Try to avoid flying into them ?
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Hoja Lateralus on September 22, 2015, 11:41:26 am
I love the "You know what you did" part of Queso's post :D
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on September 22, 2015, 01:46:39 pm
This message was very serious indeed, hidden behind some sillines.

Camping in Guns has become a thing.
Do I care? No.

But some changes that has been made to this game are actually encouraging this behaviour by providing a more casual gameplay.

(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/87/879946088d0db036c78228ef5abfd14b4a5641dedef9063be034679eef0f4977.jpg)
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Hunter. on September 22, 2015, 01:48:56 pm
I'll quit playing the day Muse nerf mines...

ayyyyyy
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: SiepeAssassina on September 22, 2015, 02:48:40 pm
This message was very serious indeed, hidden behind some sillines.

Camping in Guns has become a thing.
Do I care? No.

But some changes that has been made to this game are actually encouraging this behaviour by providing a more casual gameplay.

(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/87/879946088d0db036c78228ef5abfd14b4a5641dedef9063be034679eef0f4977.jpg)

Ok, fine, is that what you understood reading my reply?
Let me explain.
I don't think "Casual" as a bad thing, nor I am a competitive/pro player in ANY game I own. Still there's a difference from a game (say CS) that emphasizes personal skills and games where you can do pretty much whatever you want to an extent that is the game itself to play for you. Guns used to be more on the "Serious" side, the learning curve was steep yet rewarding.
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Coiler on September 22, 2015, 03:31:49 pm
(https://i.imgflip.com/rg39h.jpg)
Your toughtful and insightful comments always enlighten us with knowledge. Sometimes though you ought to keep them to yourself, they are really too far ahead of what we common folks can think of.
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Koali on September 22, 2015, 09:24:04 pm
(https://i.imgflip.com/rg39h.jpg)
Your toughtful and insightful comments always enlighten us with knowledge. Sometimes though you ought to keep them to yourself, they are really too far ahead of what we common folks can think of.

*Allocates reactor power from life support to shields*
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Cancaro on September 23, 2015, 05:37:06 am
*Allocates reactor power from life support to shields*
Hem... sir... I'm not arguing, but... what's the point in keeping the ship intact if we're all dead?
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Koali on September 27, 2015, 03:31:24 pm
*Allocates reactor power from life support to shields*
Hem... sir... I'm not arguing, but... what's the point in keeping the ship intact if we're all dead?

WE CAN HIDE IN THE MEDBAY
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on September 27, 2015, 06:39:17 pm
(https://i.imgflip.com/rg39h.jpg)
Your toughtful and insightful comments always enlighten us with knowledge. Sometimes though you ought to keep them to yourself, they are really too far ahead of what we common folks can think of.

Oooooh so that's what he was talking about.

huh... I assumed too much from him. I thought he was going for a clever angle (maybe making up words is part of it). Just a slight case of butthurt salt. Oh well. Let the pits continue.
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Hunter. on September 27, 2015, 07:10:43 pm
*Allocates reactor power from life support to shields*
Hem... sir... I'm not arguing, but... what's the point in keeping the ship intact if we're all dead?

WE CAN HIDE IN THE MEDBAY
Spotted the FTL player
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Carn on September 27, 2015, 08:12:22 pm
*Allocates reactor power from life support to shields*
Hem... sir... I'm not arguing, but... what's the point in keeping the ship intact if we're all dead?

WE CAN HIDE IN THE MEDBAY
Medbay? You mean the burning hole? Also, were out of morphine and adrenaline. The saline was overripe too.
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Cancaro on September 28, 2015, 02:58:18 am
WE CAN HIDE IN THE MEDBAY
You mean *camping in the medbay?

Anyway... yessir! I... hum... I'll go to check the manteinance of the escape pods... just few minutes and I'll be back. (http://emoticonforum.altervista.org/_altervista_ht/faccine/sieno/19.gif)
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: SiepeAssassina on September 28, 2015, 08:56:08 am
Oooooh so that's what he was talking about.

huh... I assumed too much from him. I thought he was going for a clever angle (maybe making up words is part of it). Just a slight case of butthurt salt. Oh well. Let the pits continue.

We can't keep it up as you're way ahead of us.
Nor we can pretend that you will step down from your own throne just to have a chit-chat with us, angry antisocial nerds.

You talk like my post (and/or Coiler's) is an insult against you, does it smell like... oh yeah... some kind of guilt?
Or maybe because you don't like to read and understand the whole stuff I wrote, hence I'll add a TL;DR down here.
Just for you.

Yet, us, common folks, filthy scrubs, actual players, WE, we see the game flling apart due to a severe lack of players.
And the rotten community goes with it.

What a shame.

TL;DR
I couldn't care less 'bout you and your meaningless posting, this is a game and such it'll stay.
Am I allowed to share a point of view without being fingered as something I am not?
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: DJ Logicalia on September 28, 2015, 01:10:12 pm
The salt pits
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: SiepeAssassina on September 28, 2015, 02:56:25 pm
The salt pits
(http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/01/40/b9/33/le-saline-di-trapani.jpg)
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on September 28, 2015, 03:12:42 pm
Oooooh so that's what he was talking about.

huh... I assumed too much from him. I thought he was going for a clever angle (maybe making up words is part of it). Just a slight case of butthurt salt. Oh well. Let the pits continue.

We can't keep it up as you're way ahead of us.
Nor we can pretend that you will step down from your own throne just to have a chit-chat with us, angry antisocial nerds.

You talk like my post (and/or Coiler's) is an insult against you, does it smell like... oh yeah... some kind of guilt?
Or maybe because you don't like to read and understand the whole stuff I wrote, hence I'll add a TL;DR down here.
Just for you.

Yet, us, common folks, filthy scrubs, actual players, WE, we see the game flling apart due to a severe lack of players.
And the rotten community goes with it.

What a shame.

TL;DR
I couldn't care less 'bout you and your meaningless posting, this is a game and such it'll stay.
Am I allowed to share a point of view without being fingered as something I am not?

lol guilt. don't even front. It's more your lack of ability to take a slight burn. It must have touched a nerve but I'm not gonna apologise for it.

you were spamming stuff about dank memes and jizzhand in-game and I was just wondering where your genius burn came from.

I was actually expecting something elaborate and clever. But nope. It's just salt.
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Koali on September 28, 2015, 06:39:17 pm
WE CAN HIDE IN THE MEDBAY
You mean *camping in the medbay?

Anyway... yessir! I... hum... I'll go to check the manteinance of the escape pods... just few minutes and I'll be back. (http://emoticonforum.altervista.org/_altervista_ht/faccine/sieno/19.gif)

DON'T GO OUT THERE, I VENTED ALL THE AIR
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Cancaro on October 03, 2015, 05:37:08 am
What do you mean you vented the aaAAAAAAAaaaaaaaa...
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Koali on October 03, 2015, 10:35:19 am
Can't hear you, there's no air to carry the sound.
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Hunter. on October 03, 2015, 01:32:44 pm
Can't hear you, there's no air particles lose enough to vibrate to carry the sound.

FTFY
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: Koali on October 03, 2015, 02:39:33 pm
CAN'T HEAR YOU EITHER, WE'VE BEEN BOARDED BY A CREW OF OXYGEN-SUCKING LANIUS
Title: Re: Are the engines really necessary?
Post by: The Sky Wolf on November 08, 2015, 02:39:04 pm
All a ship really needs is captains, the crew and their guns are simply a waste of space. Each ship should be allowed to replace all of the guns with Helms so the ship can maneuver 3x harder!

It makes sense if you don't think about it.