Guns Of Icarus Online
Community => Community Events => Topic started by: Linen on April 17, 2013, 10:35:35 pm
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Now that the Cogs are full and the maps a chosen I figured it was high time for a place to share our predictions for matches semi competitively.
This is entirely for fun. THERE IS NO BETTING INVOLVED.
Pick & Pun costs nothing to enter (although do feel free to leave an optional pun). The winner receives bragging rights and a terrible title forced upon him or her like an unfortunate rash.
A bonus to this is we'll be able to see crowd favourites going into a match. I'll work up a percentage for each matchup before Cogs begins.
Here's how it works.
Each week you pick your choice of winners from each match.
You get 1 point for a correct pick.
You must put in a predicted score for the Champion vs Challenger match and this will serve as a tiebreaker if it comes to that.
At the end of the season the scores are tallied and the person with the highest receives the semi-illustrious title of Punner of Pickarus! (Told you it was terrible.)
Set your submission out like this:
Week 5
(optional Puns of Icarus here)
Match 1: Corvus Marauders
Match 2: Gentlemen
Match 3: Polaris Company: 5-4
(Then any comments like:)
Yes I know, no Ducks. But the Dover are new, the Gentlemen are Jugglenauts and Polaris are obviously insane magical sky ponies leaving a vapour trail of confused sky-corpses wherever they fly.
I'll put up a working spreadsheet once week 5 is over so you can keep track of your scores.
Picks will be open as soon as the week's preview is out.
PICKS MUST BE IN BY FRIDAY 4PM EST.
This is to give me time to enter the submissions and work out crowd favourite percentages.
I will not accept submissions after that time.
I will not accept edits or changes. Please, think before you hit that submit button.
Ok, we have 4 weeks left! That's 12 potential points.
Corvus Marauders vs The Dover
The Gentlemen vs The Brood
The Paddling vs Polaris Company
Get picking and punning!
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Match 1: Corvus 5-2
Match 2: The Gentlemen 5-0
Match 3: The Paddling 5-1
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We should also bet on the Muse vs. Occasionally Effective match!
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We should also bet on the Muse vs. Occasionally Effective match!
awwww don't do that.... we all know what people are going to say
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muse vs occasionally effective: 2 - 5
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Match 1: Corvus 5-4
(i bet ducks will take galleon-pyra, and corvus will take smth else, but they will win only because they have more experience)
Match 2: The Gentlemen 5-0
(fjords... gentleman... no mercy...)
Match 3: The Paddling 5-2
(i just hope for that :)
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Corvus vs. The Dover - a win for Corvus
The Gentlemen vs. The Brood - a win for the Gentlemen
The Paddling vs. Polaris Company - a win for Polaris, 5-2
Museosaurs vs. Occasionally Effective - a win for Muse (after at least two stewards enquiries)
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I will refrain from betting on my own game.
but:
match 2: the gents
Fjords is a semi open map, if brood takes tha match head on, gents have shown time after time that they know how to react to that.
match 3: Polaris
Polaris is a rather new team, we dont know what they are capable of before this match is over, but experience tells my gut that they will take it.
Muse vs. OE : Muse
say what you will about muse, but they have become better this past month.
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First match - The Dover 5/4 - Predicting a very close match full of surprises.
Second match - The Brood 5/3 - I think their tail is up, and although i don't have any foundation for this comment I'm betting they rock the double Pyra for a fairly brutal close quarters win.
Third match? - Skrimskraw has the right of it shouldn't comment on ones own game. All I'll say is that the insane magical sky ponies are pretty damn scary.
Caster vs Muse - I think muse is desperate for this win, if only to silence the criticism of the casters. I think it'll get them close... but not close enough.
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Occasionally Effective 5-3
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See the betting is really hurting my confidence.
Match 1 Dover 9 to -2
Match 2 Brood 5 to 2
Match 3 Polaris 5 to 4
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Nice to see such a response! Keep it up guys.
I had been debating including Muse vs Occasionally Effective but decided against it for several reasons. However people seem to be enjoying throwing their predictions in for that match so I'll still do up the odds for it and if everyone who's already posted adds that match I'll let it count for points.
As for betting on ones own match, it's good to see people forego picking when they're not comfortable. If you'd like a more hard and fast rule on this I'd ask probably for a different thread just to keep this one somewhat clean for my sake on the day before and after Cogs. Either way this is more of a casual thing and the not picking own matches might balance out some advantages you'd have being in one of the teams.
Also it's good to see almost everyone having fun putting up full score predictions. Just remember only the score for the Champion event counts toward a tiebreaker.
There is a distinct lack of puns. I wonder if people are Cog-nisant of the pun element.
Keep the picks rolling in guys!
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Puns will make this thread better? I find that hard to Swallow.
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All through your salute whoring I have never once buckled. "This man will never get a salute from me," I said.
I was wrong.
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Match 1: Corvus 5:3 | I can almost see Corvus running a galeon/pyra here, and the map is kind to sniping, combined with Phoebe being pretty good at lumber means the Dover will have a hard time
Match 2: The Gents 5:2 | long range map, plus how well the gents know it will make it hard to push it to short range, causing issues with the brood
Match 3: The Paddling 5:1 | I would never underestimate the might of Polarise, but going on how well the ducks fared on the same map last game I can see them pulling a hard but decisive win.
One would have to be Quackers to bet against the ducks, and if you do, well we will make sure you end up with a big bill!
Edit:
Match 4(!): Muse 5:2 | Muse have gotten a lot better, and the casters should stick to what they are good at, as its sure not flying ;) =P
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Puns will make this thread better? I find that hard to Swallow.
I will end you.
In other news... I don't think either me or qwerty can comment on these. Because we totally don't show favouritism or bias in our com*COUGH*OE/Muse5-0*COUGH*mentary.
Oh, Blugh. Sorry. I have a bit of a cold.
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Match 1 Dover 5 to 3
Match 2 Brood 5 to 4
Match 3 Polaris 5 to 3
Match 1: Corvus 5-2
Match 2: The Gentlemen 5-0
Match 3: The Paddling 5-1
We're not that bad!
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Match 1 Dover 5 to 3
Match 2 Brood 5 to 4
Match 3 Polaris 5 to 3
Match 1: Corvus 5-2
Match 2: The Gentlemen 5-0
Match 3: The Paddling 5-1
We're not that bad!
You can be one of the best teams in the world, but the Gents on Fjords are a force only stoppable by the Paddling.
Another thing is that I like predicting what I hope doesn't happen. That way if what I want to happen happens, then I think, "Oh, good!". If what I don't want to happen happens, then I'll think "Too bad. At least I made a good prediction"
And MNS got beaten on Duel 5-0, and they're certainly no slouches.
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All through your salute whoring
:D
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Admittedly I'm certain MNS could have done much better than they did in that match. Coordination didn't look as good as ussual and quad-carrorade dalleon is not good at killing other galleons - excelent against Pyras (i can attest to that) but not against galleons. Despite not being made for destroying armor, it can strip Pyra's Armor very fast and then light flak can deal with the pyras permahull. I salute zill for trying to change meta, but this time the combo just wasn't well tested and tried enough. Especialy with lumberjack-hawacha galleons on the other side.
My predictions:
Match 2: Gents 5-0
Match 3: Paddling 5-3 (Paddling just have that much more experiences)
Not predicting my own match.
As for MUSE vs OE: Muse 5-3
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As this will be my last chance I have come to remind you all to get your picks in for week 5 of Cogs as:
Submissions close Friday 4pm EST. That's 24 hours before Cogs begins.
Also make sure you watch the Occasionally Effective Cogs stream for all the action AND statistics such as match favourite percentages, crowd favorite, underdog and more! All taken from your very own picks! How awesome is that? As awesome as a tar-barrel full of whisky!
Thanks for all the submissions! Keep them coming till 4pm EST!
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Match 1: Corvus Marauders 3-5
Match 2: Gentlemen 5-2
Match 3: Polaris Company: 5-2
qwerty's match: 4-5
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I will refrain from betting on my own game.
but:
match 2: the gents 5-1
Fjords is a semi open map, if brood takes tha match head on, gents have shown time after time that they know how to react to that.
match 3: Polaris 5-2
Polaris is a rather new team, we dont know what they are capable of before this match is over, but experience tells my gut that they will take it.
Muse vs. OE : Muse 5-3
say what you will about muse, but they have become better this past month.
added point results.
good luck to everyone! See you saturday dover :)
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Match 2: The Brood 5-0
(Always go for the high odds!)
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Ok. Submissions are closed. Not to beat a dead horse but make sure you watch the Cogs streams for all the stats and some marvellous flying from all the teams.
After the stream I will post all the stats here so no one misses out. I will work as fast as I can to put up the leaderboard as well as find a weekly winner.
Also keep an eye out for the Cogs Tipping Competition Week 6 thread coming to you next week when the preview is up. There will be a few small changes but rest assured all your points will carry over for the season standings.
And to any new people joining us, don't be afraid to jump in next week! There's plenty of time to catch up in points and I may even throw a bonus point your way. Next Week Only.
Good luck to everyone!
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Stats! Yay!
Corvus Marauders at 62.5% over The Dover at 37.5%
The Dover is this weeks Underdog.
The Gentlemen at 64% over The Brood at 36%
The Gentlemen are this weeks crowd favorite.
This match received the most combined votes.
Polaris Company at 56% over The Paddling at 44%
Extremely close. Only 1 point between them.
Occasionally Effective at 50% EQUAL to Museosaurs at 50%
Leaderboard is coming tomorrow. Stay tuned.
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By the looks of it Veyka and I are tied for the number one spot.
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For everyone who rooted against us...
Well, poo on you!
And stuff!
UH-HUH !
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Caw!
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Caw!
caw caw!!
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Should have been Gentlemen 50.001% over Brood 49.999%
I had a finishing ram that I thought was perfect timing. Little did I know my gatling gun missed over half its clip at close range.
super fun match!
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Yeah that was a nice match. That was fun to watch. Nice and close game.
...and sorry I have to do this. I am not sure of the next opportunity I can do our war cry.
KAWWWWW! :P
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caw :P
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Is the leaderboard coming up soon?
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Week 5 Leaderboard
1. N-Sunderland - 3.1
1. Veyka - 3.1
2. zitruskiller - 3
3. Coldcurse - 2
3. Hubert PIckle - 2
3. Mattilald Anguisad - 2
4. Skrimskraw - 1
5. FightBoyVash - 0
5. Moriarty - 0
5. Sammy B. T. - 0
5. Sgt. Spoon - 0
So after spending futile efforts on making a info-graphic (if that's even the right word) for the leaderboard I decided to leave it up to someone who has design skills. So if you have design skills and feel like making the boards for the tipping comp then send me a sample via pm and I'll choose the best (if I get any). So, for now we have a text board.
Also thanks to everyone who put in their tips for this week and congrats to N-Sunderland and Veyka who are our weekly top tippers and current leaders. Big thanks to Swallow and Qwerty for hosting our stats on the stream.
And once again watch out for Cogs Tipping Competition Week 6 coming after the weekly preview. Hope to see some new people next week!
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Week 5 Leaderboard
1. N-Sunderland - 3.1
1. Veyka - 3.1
3. zitruskiller - 3
4. Coldcurse - 2
4. Hubert PIckle - 2
4. Mattilald Anguisad - 2
7. Skrimskraw - 1
8. FightBoyVash - 0
8. Moriarty - 0
8. Sammy B. T. - 0
8. Sgt. Spoon - 0
ftfy
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I can almost see Corvus running a galeon/pyra here
Are you some kind of psychic?
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Week 5 Leaderboard
1. N-Sunderland - 3.1
1. Veyka - 3.1
3. zitruskiller - 3
4. Coldcurse - 2
4. Hubert PIckle - 2
4. Mattilald Anguisad - 2
7. Skrimskraw - 1
8. FightBoyVash - 0
8. Moriarty - 0
8. Sammy B. T. - 0
8. Sgt. Spoon - 0
ftfy
This. It's really bugging me.
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Really?
If that's what everyone prefers then fine but it really doesn't make much difference.
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Whatever. Just my brain being stupid. You can leave it as it is.
Thanks for all the work you've done on this so far. Betting on the matches and seeing others' predictions has been loads of fun.
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When I said it does't make much difference I meant it doesn't make much difference to me. I'll switch it up next week seeing as it's bugging people.
Thanks for all the work you've done on this so far. Betting on the matches and seeing others' predictions has been loads of fun.
Thanks man. It's good to hear someone is enjoying it as much as I am. :D
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I can almost see Corvus running a galeon/pyra here
Are you some kind of psychic?
Line of reasoning:
They were going to give Phoebe a Lumberjack, So they have 3 choices, Spire, goldfish or Galleon, Spire is out as Aqua doesn't fly spire, and Galleon is generally a far better bet for snipping matches so it was the most probable outcome.
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I can almost see Corvus running a galeon/pyra here
Are you some kind of psychic?
Line of reasoning:
They were going to give Phoebe a Lumberjack, So they have 3 choices, Spire, goldfish or Galleon, Spire is out as Aqua doesn't fly spire, and Galleon is generally a far better bet for snipping matches so it was the most probable outcome.
at least I got to go into a brawl 2 times.
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I can almost see Corvus running a galeon/pyra here
Are you some kind of psychic?
Line of reasoning:
They were going to give Phoebe a Lumberjack, So they have 3 choices, Spire, goldfish or Galleon, Spire is out as Aqua doesn't fly spire, and Galleon is generally a far better bet for snipping matches so it was the most probable outcome.
Couple of points to note
1) AquaMac flew nothing but spire for a long time; he really liked them. They are a little weak and he knows that;- so it's risky
2) We don't snipe, we're not snipers. Skrim went with mercs on the side because he is our Galleons protection - gives him combat efficiency while he's sticking with us waiting for close combat.
Lumberjacks are not sniping weapons;- they're anti sniping weapons. With Lumberjacks we try to intimidate people and force them to get close to us;- just because Dover was hiding from it the whole match and didn't come to us the way we tried to make them - doesn't mean we were the snipers. We only used mercs on gunmounts where it's only logical to have them.
I'll try to stress out again - We are not snipers;- we do not intend for long range snipe battles - it all depends on what our enemy does. We HAVE sniping capabilities if enemy stays long range or I have a good day on the Lumber and take ships down from very far - then Sushi can use the Merc to finish it off.
If anything we WANT to fight at medium ranges, because we grow more powerful with every 100 yards you come closer to us;- unlike going with purely mercs where it almost doesn't matter what distance you fire.
I was very dissapointed with the commentary on our match because we got depicted as having gone to the darkside with snipers and making a boring match - it's just that we had an enemy against us that very stupidly gave us the middle of the map right at the start by flying out of it;- and then hid behind a structure surrounded by clouds;- yeah... we're not going to steer a Galleon into that.
3) My boyfriend gave me trouble for embarrassing him so I edited this part out again
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I can almost see Corvus running a galeon/pyra here
Are you some kind of psychic?
Line of reasoning:
They were going to give Phoebe a Lumberjack, So they have 3 choices, Spire, goldfish or Galleon, Spire is out as Aqua doesn't fly spire, and Galleon is generally a far better bet for snipping matches so it was the most probable outcome.
Well it is interesting that you say that Veyka, because when i started this game the Spire was the only ship I liked to fly, and even Bubbles made comment on it, but Lumber jack spire can be hard, cause of it quick turning. Even so nice prediction, did not even see you said that before Cogs. LOL
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I have never seen Aqua flying spire, thus my comments, maybe I should have said "I haven't seem him fly it" rather than he does not. Lumberspire could still be nasty, but I would still bet on a Galleon winning out over it atm, yes its harder to manage range of engagement, but the extra durability is invaluable.
Saying you don't snipe, just seems more like a kneejerk reaction to the negative attitudes people hold about long range engagements, you spent most of the match shooting at long range with merc and lumber, yes your galleon had a hwacha as its 2nd side which made it less effective at long range and more so at mid, but you still spent most of the game at long range, I am not saying this is a bad thing though! It worked out well for you this match, it will be interesting to see you play vs one of the teams who have spent more time specialising at extreme range combat.
As far as the lumberjack, its not going to force people to close, its going to force people to try to slide around it, and avoid trying to rush at it, as thats a very good way to end up on the floor dead before you can even get some shots off, thats why they went around the side, as vs a lumber and dual merc with a spire and a junker if they had tried to close the gap across the open area they would have just been shot out of the sky.
Anyway, onto next week.
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I can almost see Corvus running a galeon/pyra here
Are you some kind of psychic?
Line of reasoning:
They were going to give Phoebe a Lumberjack, So they have 3 choices, Spire, goldfish or Galleon, Spire is out as Aqua doesn't fly spire, and Galleon is generally a far better bet for snipping matches so it was the most probable outcome.
Another thing though that swallow got very wrong in commentary. Yes we used Pyras for all of our matches, but it was a different load out each match. We did tried new things. The first one we planned sniping with paddling, because that is what they do. That game was 5-3 by the way. They got us with the Lumber Jack.
Second match I used double ballon poppers, while Skrim has standard load out with Pasta. They did NOT slaughter us, it was 5-4 by the way.
Thirdly We used gatt, flak, flak, gat load out on NMS, and we had trouble cause almost both our ships were all subs. We also had bad spawns, cold not regroup etc.
Not saying that NMS did not deserve that win, not at all, just saying what happened. :)
And one more thing. All you players out there now liking the Lumber Jack and wanting to steal my girlfriend to serve on your ship, BACK OFF! You had your chance, you did not see Phoebs potential, I did, and she also saw my potential as a Lumber Jack pilot, and her man. :) I actually appreciated her for it, and her tatical insight, while others even wanted to kick her off their team, or were disrespectful to her being a woman. Shame on you. Plus since she is now my girlfriend, you can't have her. LOL
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I have never seen Aqua flying spire, thus my comments, maybe I should have said "I haven't seem him fly it" rather than he does not. Lumberspire could still be nasty, but I would still bet on a Galleon winning out over it atm, yes its harder to manage range of engagement, but the extra durability is invaluable.
Saying you don't snipe, just seems more like a kneejerk reaction to the negative attitudes people hold about long range engagements, you spent most of the match shooting at long range with merc and lumber, yes your galleon had a hwacha as its 2nd side which made it less effective at long range and more so at mid, but you still spent most of the game at long range, I am not saying this is a bad thing though! It worked out well for you this match, it will be interesting to see you play vs one of the teams who have spent more time specialising at extreme range combat.
As far as the lumberjack, its not going to force people to close, its going to force people to try to slide around it, and avoid trying to rush at it, as thats a very good way to end up on the floor dead before you can even get some shots off, thats why they went around the side, as vs a lumber and dual merc with a spire and a junker if they had tried to close the gap across the open area they would have just been shot out of the sky.
Anyway, onto next week.
No;- I completely disagree with your interpetation of my reaction. It's not a kneejerk reaction to the negative comments or a form of excuse to justify sniping - we only have Mercs on gunmounts where it's only logical to have them and I can't disagree more with putting Lumberjacks into a sniper category or even a "Long range weapon" - most people can't even hit with it at long range.
I don't think you get what I'm saying;-
It's annoying when people can't distinct long range combat efficiency from "sniping" - or intentionally going for a snipe match. If we wanted a snipe match we would have stayed put and get a large view across the map rather than go to the exact central point of what is typically a sniping map. It turned out well because we had an enemy that just didn't move in aggressively;- they stuck behind clouds;- they stuck behind structure - and we were totally fine with that because as long as they didn't want to fight us up close we could just potshot them to death.
We have to be really careful where we are going to draw a line between what we call sniping and what we simply call long range potential - because there are people (ok, I'm one of them) that don't like sniping at all;- and get annoyed being called one.
Your perspective is just going to push all of us into a "Sniper" / boring match category sooner or later unless we all decide to go Gat-Flak pyra and make it a "First person who shoots wins" kind of game - well that's just not us.
We went with a balanced loadout and expected them to get up close - hell;- they even took close combat loadouts. They got shut out because our long range half of our loadouts was sufficient to kill them;- that secondary loadout we have on our ships "Just in case" we are AGAINST snipers.
So yeah;- I'm annoyed at the negative commentary and the callout, "Oh corvus resorted to the sniping meta"
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I have never seen Aqua flying spire, thus my comments, maybe I should have said "I haven't seem him fly it" rather than he does not. Lumberspire could still be nasty, but I would still bet on a Galleon winning out over it atm, yes its harder to manage range of engagement, but the extra durability is invaluable.
Saying you don't snipe, just seems more like a kneejerk reaction to the negative attitudes people hold about long range engagements, you spent most of the match shooting at long range with merc and lumber, yes your galleon had a hwacha as its 2nd side which made it less effective at long range and more so at mid, but you still spent most of the game at long range, I am not saying this is a bad thing though! It worked out well for you this match, it will be interesting to see you play vs one of the teams who have spent more time specialising at extreme range combat.
As far as the lumberjack, its not going to force people to close, its going to force people to try to slide around it, and avoid trying to rush at it, as thats a very good way to end up on the floor dead before you can even get some shots off, thats why they went around the side, as vs a lumber and dual merc with a spire and a junker if they had tried to close the gap across the open area they would have just been shot out of the sky.
Anyway, onto next week.
No;- I completely disagree with your interpetation of my reaction. It's not a kneejerk reaction to the negative comments or a form of excuse to justify sniping - we only have Mercs on gunmounts where it's only logical to have them and I can't disagree more with putting Lumberjacks into a sniper category or even a "Long range weapon" - most people can't even hit with it at long range.
I don't think you get what I'm saying;-
It's annoying when people can't distinct long range combat efficiency from "sniping" - or intentionally going for a snipe match. If we wanted a snipe match we would have stayed put and get a large view across the map rather than go to the exact central point of what is typically a sniping map. It turned out well because we had an enemy that just didn't move in aggressively;- they stuck behind clouds;- they stuck behind structure - and we were totally fine with that because as long as they didn't want to fight us up close we could just potshot them to death.
We have to be really careful where we are going to draw a line between what we call sniping and what we simply call long range potential - because there are people (ok, I'm one of them) that don't like sniping at all;- and get annoyed being called one.
Your perspective is just going to push all of us into a "Sniper" / boring match category sooner or later unless we all decide to go Gat-Flak pyra and make it a "First person who shoots wins" kind of game - well that's just not us.
We went with a balanced loadout and expected them to get up close - hell;- they even took close combat loadouts. They got shut out because our long range half of our loadouts was sufficient to kill them;- that secondary loadout we have on our ships "Just in case" we are AGAINST snipers.
So yeah;- I'm annoyed at the negative commentary and the callout, "Oh corvus resorted to the sniping meta"
The lumberjack is a very long range weapon, a pugs ability to hit using one isn't really relevant when we are talking about the cogs, we have seen people hitting across the map though clouds with them, sounds pretty long range to me.
"The Crows had a good mix of long and mid/short range combat potential" vs "The Crows loadout could support snipping as well as mid/close range combat", saying the same thing, just worded differently, and if you look at all the teams who have been called snipping teams, they have all had the ability to pivot to mid/short combat, thats why you see the mercs on the side of the pyra rather than the front for the most part.
I am also pretty sure I never said "snipping bad, crows bad for snipping" etc, I said "better for snipping matches", would you have felt differently if I had said "better for long range matches"? You won the match, you played well.
Are we also gluing sniping and camping together now as well?
If the rumors are true the next patch should shake the meta up nicerly so this whole discussion is moot in the mid term anyway, might even see it hit before next sat which should be fun.
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Look like this has gotten pretty off topic, so I'm here to push it back toward the subject of Cogs Pick (With very few Pun). Thanks.
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"Lumberjacks are not sniping weapons;- they're anti sniping weapons."
This cracked me up, I laughed at that i really did - Disclaimer: really tired... and amused :P
On a separate note: Clutter like this is to be expected maybe a new thread should start for each tipping run?
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I agree with Zill that maybe we stay on track on this forum. Could always do separate forum for gun talks? :)
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there will be sniping, untill the meta changes.
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It's up to the OP to determine how he wants to continue his thread, until then, treat this as the only one for Cogs Pick and Pun, and keep posts on subject. If you want to make a new one to argue about guns, be my guest. I'd probably join in the discussion, hah. But do keep this on topic else I'll lock this and he'll be forced into a new thread.
Thanks to all.
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Thanks Zill. I should have gotten to this sooner. While I don't want to discourage tipping discussion and theory crafting, because that's what this thread is for, this isn't the place to argue semantics or to air offences.
I understand sniping and camping is a hot topic but that's not what this thread is about.
There's going to be a new thread every week anyway and it has occurred to me that there needs to be somewhere clean to host the weekly statistics and the running leaderboard so it doesn't get lost in the conversation.
To bring it back:
Paddling won over Polaris 5-1. Yet the community picks gave them both very even odds despite The Paddling's track record. Why do you think that is?
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Paddling won over Polaris 5-1. Yet the community picks gave them both very even odds despite The Paddling's track record. Why do you think that is?
Polaris had been given a lot of (not entirely but partially justified) praise for using a blenderspire last time;- and people were genuinely suprised that it "worked" - it made them cocky and no one expected them to be so confident in it that they'd be stupid enough to take two spires against Paddling on Duel at Dawn
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Paddling won over Polaris 5-1. Yet the community picks gave them both very even odds despite The Paddling's track record. Why do you think that is?
Polaris had been given a lot of (not entirely but partially justified) praise for using a blenderspire last time;- and people were genuinely suprised that it "worked" - it made them cocky and no one expected them to be so confident in it that they'd be stupid enough to take two spires against Paddling on Duel at Dawn
Apparently they had a last-minute strategy change. Somebody on their team took an executive decision and decided to go double Spires, which apparently confused the hell out of the rest of them. They don't actually think the Spire is good. They realize that it's a terrible ship. I think we need some clarification from somebody on the team as to what happened exactly.
Anyways, I think people were predicting Polaris to win because that's what they wanted to see. At this point, a lot of people seem to want to see The Paddling go down (and I'll admit, some diversity at the top would be nice). So they optimistically vote for what they want to happen, instead of the realistic result.
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I personally like watching the Paddling go into the gladiator pit and emerge victorious week after week.
I'm also completely unbiased in this conversation. Ask anyone.
Honestly though, I think having a repeating champion adds drama to the matches and creates for some interesting dialogue.
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Polaris had been given a lot of (not entirely but partially justified) praise for using a blenderspire last time;- and people were genuinely suprised that it "worked" - it made them cocky and no one expected them to be so confident in it that they'd be stupid enough to take two spires against Paddling on Duel at Dawn
This is only my opinion, and it can disagree with the opinion of my team.
We won PaFa not because spire was a good decision, but because we just had a better crew on my ship (pyra). If you watched closely, just all times when we faced pyra 1v1, we killed it, and then the other ship. The decision to take 2 spires on duel at down was spontaneous, and i totally disagree with it (actually i, as a cap, will never fly spire at cogs) but it was not totally cocky, one of the reasons was that we already won ducks on dunes with that setup couple of times. It was just a public game, we had not full crews, something like 6v6 players, but that games made us belive that its real. (correct me if im wrong, paddling, because i was not there, when we did it). Im sure we had chances to do that again, the only reason, why we lost is that we played disgusting in that match, and of course, well played, ducks, as usual.
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Polaris had been given a lot of (not entirely but partially justified) praise for using a blenderspire last time;- and people were genuinely suprised that it "worked" - it made them cocky and no one expected them to be so confident in it that they'd be stupid enough to take two spires against Paddling on Duel at Dawn
This is only my opinion, and it can disagree with the opinion of my team.
We won PaFa not because spire was a good decision, but because we just had a better crew on my ship (pyra) if you watched closely, just all times when we faced pyra 1v1, we killed it, and then the other ship. The decision to take 2 spires on duel at down was spontaneous, and i disagree with it (actually i, as a cap, will never fly spire at cogs) but it was not totally cocky, one of the reasons was that we already won ducks on dunes with that setup couple of times. We had not full crews, something like 6v6 players (correct me if im wrong, paddling, because i was not there, when we did it)
Yeh, the impression I got from watching the PaFa match was that the Polaris Pyra was very effective, and that the two ships stayed together well, and as PaFa trying to focus the spire and ignoring the Pyra (which didn't end well) combined with their blenderfish not being very effective.
I was also wondering why Xemko wasn't flying.
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I was also wondering why Xemko wasn't flying.
initially our two pilots were me and FisherEx. I have now some troubles in real life, and i do not have time to play a lot, so, probably i will leave the cap slot. Btw, we have 4 main pilots, in our team, they are me, Xemko and two of the founders of our team - Alien and FisherEx. So, sometimes we will switch between them, if i clearly understood its not restricted. Just wanted you to know.
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I was also wondering why Xemko wasn't flying.
initially our two pilots were me and FisherEx. I have now some troubles in real life, and i do not have time to play a lot, so, probably i will leave the cap slot. Btw, we have 4 main pilots, in our team, they are me, Xemko and two of the founers of our team - Alien and FisherEx. So, sometimes we will switch between them, if i clearly understood its not restricted. Just wanted you to know.
Good to know, thanks! And sorry to hear about your IRL issues :/
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zitruskiller is 100% correct, the blender spire really wrecked us in practice (the Lucky Duck) it was kinda terrifying. However, I think however the dynamic changes substantially when you have your cog's team mate there to back you up.