Guns Of Icarus Online
Info => Feedback and Suggestions => Topic started by: Hoja Lateralus on May 31, 2015, 01:23:39 pm
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I saw some video and there's a game that does it as a toogable option. I think some people would really appretiate it.
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No. If you wanna block someone do it manually. There's no reason to pre-block people for no reason and they might need to communicate with you. If crew joined your ship with everyone pre-blocked it would break the game. This is a social game don't be selfish.
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I actually wish for this pretty frequently in lobbies. Only I want to be able to mute all but crew or all but team. It should be off by default but reset on every new lobby join.
The reason is that sometimes other ships are having a lot of fun chatting about random stuff while we are still coordinating. When this happens, I'll end up blocking half the lobby...
Problem is if I don't get a chance to unblock later. Now I have a blocklist of about 50 people where there should only be 5 or so, and I don't remember who is who.
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I just want a 'mute other team' option.
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No. If you wanna block someone do it manually. There's no reason to pre-block people for no reason and they might need to communicate with you. If crew joined your ship with everyone pre-blocked it would break the game. This is a social game don't be selfish.
Well, I meant for it not to be permanent. It's not block = put people in blocklist, more like block as "voice enable 0" from Counter Strike. Perhaps it could be even somewhere on the surface of the UI. I mean only voicechat block.
Man, we really need Counter Strike like console...
I actually wish for this pretty frequently in lobbies. Only I want to be able to mute all but crew or all but team. It should be off by default but reset on every new lobby join.
The reason is that sometimes other ships are having a lot of fun chatting about random stuff while we are still coordinating. When this happens, I'll end up blocking half the lobby...
Problem is if I don't get a chance to unblock later. Now I have a blocklist of about 50 people where there should only be 5 or so, and I don't remember who is who.
I just want a 'mute other team' option.
I think this is some compromise. You can still communicate with your team but you can disable some of the chatter.
Make [Mute other team (voicechat)] button and I'll be happy.
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A mute other team button is a good idea.
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You know there is option to disable voice chat completely, right? If you're not in the mood to listen how everyone whine just turn it off. Simple.
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You know there is option to disable voice chat completely, right? If you're not in the mood to listen how everyone whine just turn it off. Simple.
Yeah, I know, but then I couldn't hear my friends.
I'm still for [Mute other team] button.
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No. If you wanna block someone do it manually. There's no reason to pre-block people for no reason and they might need to communicate with you. If crew joined your ship with everyone pre-blocked it would break the game. This is a social game don't be selfish.
I beg to differ with some people.
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The OP is discussing a lobby mute and I think this would be best implemented by a ship mute. Click a button and the ship is muted. A complimentary option is a toggle to talk only to crew. If ship mute buttons were put in lobby UI, a similar button could be available for your ship to speak only to crew.
The voice icons should differentiate between type of voice chat. For example: colored White for X, Orange for C, Purple for Z (party chat), and Black for crew. I have discussed this with Muse.
A semi-perm mute for anyone not on your friends list is a No.
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I'm going to say I dislike this idea.
Why encourage anti-social mechanics in a game where we want to encourage social behaviours?
Adding such block features just brings us closer to the cess pits like Call of Duty...
At an extreme I would say add a mute button for players, I may not want to block, but their mic is spewing noise pollution, at least this way I can still communicate with them without my sound waves being poisoned and without such saddening ideas as a button which will only encourage anti-social ideals... Someone may not be onnmy.friends list, but by.muting them I'm not giving them.the chance.
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I can say that this problem is known and has been talked about a lot. I sent in a email with the idea of team mutes / ship mutes a long time ago and it was given good feedback from the Devs. Its been added to the list of possibilities that's what Matt has told me. But we probably wont see if for awhile but at least we know it's a thing that a good number of us are asking for. ^_^
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The cess pits of CoD are reasons these features exist, not the cause of.
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I'm going to say I dislike this idea.
Why encourage anti-social mechanics in a game where we want to encourage social behaviours?
Adding such block features just brings us closer to the cess pits like Call of Duty...
This is least anti-social than blocking everyone equally in the lobby, because they give you a hard time concentrating, or making it impossible to communicate with your crew, because even if you blocked the yellers, new players might not know how to do that - been there, seen that.
I'd rather put "mute everyone in the lobby except for people from your ship, and other captains if you are a captain.
And it would last only for the duration of sitting in the lobby.
Because it's really damn distracting when people are talking while you try to give some orders/teach people how to do stuff.
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Captain mute option. Allows the captain to mute the other team for his crew for 30 seconds.
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I am against any suggestion that revolves around muting - the current system does the job. This is a game that relies entierly on using your voice to talk, and the reason why match lobbies allows for cross-team chat is to allow for pleasent banter, as a sign of good humor and sportsmanship.
In short, if you have a problem with people talking, then maybe this game is not for you.
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I am against any suggestion that revolves around muting - the current system does the job. This is a game that relies entierly on using your voice to talk, and the reason why match lobbies allows for cross-team chat is to allow for pleasent banter, as a sign of good humor and sportsmanship.
In short, if you have a problem with people talking, then maybe this game is not for you.
You've completely missed my point. I want this so I don't have to 'permanently' block everyone. I just want a way to temporary block their voicechat because, for instance, they are talking about some random stuff which doesn't allow me to focus on my loadouts/tactics stuff.
But yeah, saying to a guy with 700+ hours played "Maybe this isn't a game for you" :D
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In short, if you have a problem with people talking, then maybe this game is not for you.
You obviously never tried being a bloody pilot, thinking strategicaly, and communicate with your crew in lobby filled with some stupid bastards yelling all around.
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Calming things down and moving back on track somewhat. :)
Maybe just a temporary mute button on the names..
Click the O Button next to X's name and he/she is muted during the lobby timer, once in match the effect would wear off, which if they happened to be on the enemy team, they'd still be silent to you. This would make it a reasonable option to only mute those people being noisy, and wouldn't be too anti-social...
But if you muted the whole enemy team with the click of one button, you'd not be able to un-mute them individually if you wanted to listen to someone say something for whatever reason..
Also this solves the problem of people being blocked permanently for the sake of muting them...
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Still too much clicking in 4v4 lobby. Also, higher chance of not being able to do ANYTHING because of the noob players yelling "READY UP MOTHERFUCKERS", shortening the bloody timer...
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Yeah, I get what's being said. But this whole "randomness" aspect is a large part of what makes the game enjoyeble to me. And I can guarantee that many shares this sentiment.
I have been in matches filled with competetive players in pugs sometimes, like when Rydrs decides to just play some quick games. Absolutely no fun nonsense chat is allowed, and five minutes of pure planning and silence is what happens. That's not particulary enjoyeble. I understand that some people wants to be very serious, but that just doesn't go hand in hand with the nature of public groups - those have always had an inherent tolerence for random things and silly chats.
Make some contacts and organize it better, that would probably be a more efficent way to go. Having a captain specific button that mutes everyone but the other captains might be useful, not trying to take that way from anyone. But this is a game that lives by it's chemistry between players.
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Yeah, I get what's being said. But this whole "randomness" aspect is a large part of what makes the game enjoyeble to me. And I can guarantee that many shares this sentiment.
I have been in matches filled with competetive players in pugs sometimes, like when Rydrs decides to just play some quick games. Absolutely no fun nonsense chat is allowed, and five minutes of pure planning and silence is what happens. That's not particulary enjoyeble. I understand that some people wants to be very serious, but that just doesn't go hand in hand with the nature of public groups - those have always had an inherent tolerence for random things and silly chats.
Make some contacts and organize it better, that would probably be a more efficent way to go. Having a captain specific button that mutes everyone but the other captains might be useful, not trying to take that way from anyone. But this is a game that lives by it's chemistry between players.
That 5 minutes silence is normally when the Ryders are having a laugh and banter in mumble chat. :)
Though the guys and girls may come across as silent profession killers, they're all friendly enough.
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Yeah, I get what's being said. But this whole "randomness" aspect is a large part of what makes the game enjoyeble to me. And I can guarantee that many shares this sentiment.
I have been in matches filled with competetive players in pugs sometimes, like when Rydrs decides to just play some quick games. Absolutely no fun nonsense chat is allowed, and five minutes of pure planning and silence is what happens. That's not particulary enjoyeble. I understand that some people wants to be very serious, but that just doesn't go hand in hand with the nature of public groups - those have always had an inherent tolerence for random things and silly chats.
Make some contacts and organize it better, that would probably be a more efficent way to go. Having a captain specific button that mutes everyone but the other captains might be useful, not trying to take that way from anyone. But this is a game that lives by it's chemistry between players.
That 5 minutes silence is normally when the Ryders are having a laugh and banter in mumble chat. :)
Though the guys and girls may come across as silent profession killers, they're all friendly enough.
Good to know! They may wanna extend that banter to the rest of us though.
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And do you like, for example, listening to russians talking aloud in lobby?
Or anyone you cannot understand?
Yes, I too discovered recently the thing called "privacy", and, what's more, that having it is one of the human rights. Imagine that.
What's pissing me off - all our arguments seem to bounce of your ignorant head, while we TOTALLY understand your point. It's annoying when you explain certain COMMON feelings.
But sometimes - all I need is everyone but people of my interest to shut up.
Imposing your perspective on this game on others is at least rude.
Take no offence, but how this goes is really unnerving for me, and I'm losing my patience.
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And do you like, for example, listening to russians talking aloud in lobby?
Or anyone you cannot understand?
Yes, I too discovered recently the thing called "privacy", and, what's more, that having it is one of the human rights. Imagine that.
What's pissing me off - all our arguments seem to bounce of your ignorant head, while we TOTALLY understand your point. It's annoying when you explain certain COMMON feelings.
But sometimes - all I need is everyone but people of my interest to shut up.
Imposing your perspective on this game on others is at least rude.
Take no offence, but how this goes is really unnerving for me, and I'm losing my patience.
Keep hold of your patience Shwalbe, as much as everyone is entitled to privacy, we are all allowed to differ in opinions. :)
Lets keep this constructive and civil everyone. 8)
Besides, its better if differing opinions are voiced as it allows more accurate feedback to be gathered..
So constrictive and on track :)
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I'm trying man. ^^
I'm aware of what you are saying, but man, from my point of view Brobotnik is trying to impose us an opinion, that "hurr durr Muse, nerf block, block OP". (in case somebody have doubts - this is a joke)
Probably I'm too tired with all the people not giving a shit about my opinions in any situation that might actually have any impact on my very self. ^_-
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Ah but that's why I mentioned an easy to reach block button, something to fit the mid range, I don't think its Bro trying to impose his opinion, more just let his be heard :)
Back on track, maybe block ship buttons, since most people.tend to ship together maybe that is the mid way path to fast silence without being too harsh on the whole team?
8)
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And I analysed that calmly in my head, and answered what I think about that. ^^
Yeeaaaah, but I feel very uncomfortable, when I try to reason with a person, and the said person just keeps denying what I say without even putting any effort in explaining WHY he does so, only continuing (or repeating) the banter about why the said person is right...
And I totally know what he is talking about, cause I remember the time before introducing the bloody timer, when people in lobby were actually able to have normal conversation. And I liked that. -.- (timer OP, Muse plz nerf)
Now you rarely even have time to think about strategy, check loadouts, and custom your ship - not to even mention telling the ropes to crew.
But, yeah. I'll remember opinion of herr Brobotnik - and if I ever come to lobby where he is, I'll just tell my friends to exclusively stop caring about the fact that most people around here can't say more in Polish than "Kurwa".
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Ha, I know a fair share of Polish swears, working in UK warehousing teaches the best part of most European languages 8)
Unfortunately Lobbies of Icarus is a thing of the past, and yes it is very difficult to find the time to communicate everything needed to everyone, especially if you have just one guy ruining the lobby, but I guess that adds to the challenge of being a pilot and why there are so few people who are willing to pilot. (Obviously there are lots of people who are willing to steer a ship aimlessly for the lols of it without keeping to any objective, but they're not often the ones who can keep a crew in their command, I am obviously referring to the few pilots who give gunners arcs, chase for the points and play the counter game in the lobby. 8) )
That in itself is a whole other topic though, although relevant enough as being one of the draws backs from the reason why the suggestion was raised in the first place...
We should get back onto track though :)
When I get some time I'll see about condensing this thread down into the most relevant points for feedback and have a natter with a couple of the guys via email, with all the changes in play maybe there is already something on the drawing board related to all this. :)
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Ha, I know a fair share of Polish swears
We'll see.... we'll see....
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Unfortunately Lobbies of Icarus is a thing of the past
You can still participate in timer free lobbies of Icarus. The timer is the second best feature they implemented after recommended loadouts (albeit bugged at first). The timer has since been fixed and can be perpetually delayed by all 4 captains.
Don't kid yourselves, lobbies of Icarus was bad for the game and was listed as the #1 problem by Muse.
There is plenty of time to communicate with crew and team. You don't need more than 2 minutes, otherwise you're just wasting time. I love the timer.
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Plenty of time if you get the full two minutes, which if you play in custom lobbies with friends, yup you get, but hit pub matches and its a very different scene. Put your trust into match maker and 50% of my matches are after map vote with 30 seconds on the timer.
Still I manage to make do myself.. But I can understand why others would be peeved at the lack of time.
2minutes is the rare side and the ideal world, which is experienced by the minority of the player base.....
On the flip side of the coin, during sales the bulk of the player base prefer having 0 wait time.
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You always get at least a minute which is plenty to decide ship and crew loadouts. If you ask someone to add time or unready they usually will so you have at least 1.5 minutes. Any extra is wasting time, which is ok but people often don't like waiting.
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It would be great if it was just push to mute. You could hold one key to mute everyone except friends and another for just your team. The main thing is it would be momentary and not like a block feature.
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You always get at least a minute which is plenty to decide ship and crew loadouts. If you ask someone to add time or unready they usually will so you have at least 1.5 minutes. Any extra is wasting time, which is ok but people often don't like waiting.
It sound a little unrealistic to me. One minute to
a) at least glance at loadout of every other ship
b) recommend loadouts
c) in many cases of playing with randoms wait for that unresponsive uncommunicative turd to respond or at least take the loadout
d) discuss positions/strategy
etc.
btw. I love watching timer. It's like 124, 30, 58, 109.... full random
It would be great if it was just push to mute. You could hold one key to mute everyone except friends and another for just your team. The main thing is it would be momentary and not like a block feature.
It was my whole POINT for it to be temporary. Perhaps press a button for 30 sec mute.