Guns Of Icarus Online
Main => World => Topic started by: David Dire on March 27, 2015, 09:15:55 am
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This is something I've noticed.
So, when guns are nearly broken, you hear an electric, fizzy escaping/discharging sounds. This implies they use electricity, which they obviously do.
However, I've noticed one thing:
The Pyramidion doesn't have a power source.
It's the only ship that doesn't appear to have anything generating power.
Galleon: Has a big generator looking thing in it's main engine room.
Spire: Just look at the inside walls.
Goldfish: The giant contraptions in the spawn and tanks and engines near the hull.
Mobula: Generator looking thing behind you when you spawn, and the thing that encompasses the Main Engine.
Squid: Inside of the hull has many contraptions.
Junker: The huge diesel tank on the right side and all the things you see when you enter the basement.
What black magic does it use?
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Yeshan black magic, every nation has a propoganda for them in the world thread, it must be a yeshan attempt to divert oır attention!
In all honesty, eeeh... Engine columns generating power?
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in the back where you go to fix engines, there is a door, we just cant open it, could be in there
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Yeshan black magic, every nation has a propoganda for them in the world thread, it must be a yeshan attempt to divert oır attention!
In all honesty, eeeh... Engine columns generating power?
That's probably the closest, however, I don't really see a generator/engine/reactor*Muse pls add*. I mean, if anything, it just seems like fuel tanks.
in the back where you go to fix engines, there is a door, we just cant open it, could be in there
I've seen into it/the bottom of it, I believe it's just a hole or something. Probably their Toilet.
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So, I think those electric sparks are actually guns making sparks by grinding against components and stuff.
I don't think a lot of our technologies use electricity.
If guns do use electricity, the battery must be a part of the gun. If not, I'm sure the engines can supply the necessary electricity.
If that is not the case, I think the two canisters on the bottom aft of the pyramidion functions as a source of energy.
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So, I think those electric sparks are actually guns making sparks by grinding against components and stuff.
I don't think a lot of our technologies use electricity.
If guns do use electricity, the battery must be a part of the gun. If not, I'm sure the engines can supply the necessary electricity.
If that is not the case, I think the two canisters on the bottom aft of the pyramidion functions as a source of energy.
You can hear an electric noise though, and we do have various gears that require energy, so I'm 100% Guns are electric powered.
It is a good point how maybe the Engines provide electricity, however that's quite advanced technology, and even if they used it, why not use it for other ships?
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Its not that advanced of a technology. Just coils and magnets and gears. In fact, having a source of electricity that isn't an engine is a pretty advanced technology.
I still doubt that the guns function by electricity. I think electric noises are "hollywood realism" of Muse. I'm pretty sure that most guns function via mechanisms.
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Its not that advanced of a technology. Just coils and magnets and gears. In fact, having a source of electricity that isn't an engine is a pretty advanced technology.
I still doubt that the guns function by electricity. I think electric noises are "hollywood realism" of Muse. I'm pretty sure that most guns function via mechanisms.
Oh yeah, sorry, I was thinking of something different by "Powered by engines", as in, a device the re-purposed engine heat into energy for the shit.
It could be a hollywood realism thing, however, it's weird they'd have that but also things that look like generators.
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The 'generators' look more like boilers to me.
There just isn't enough evidence to convince me that guns work via electricity. I don't see enough wires or lightbulbs.
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some of them do seem to produce steam when you reload
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Just asked Bubbles (Howard) about this, and the guns are mechanical, the sound effect is for effect and drama as opposed to a sound to show electronic connections. :)
So no electronics powering the guns. :)
Sparks, grinding gears. :)
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I might be hung for this LOL. I'll check with Tim to see if this is really the case. But this is my take anyways. I hope I'm not in trouble hehehe.
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Well if they are electronic, tell him he is in trouble for the pyramidion not having a visible generator!
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This thread actually just prompted big convo lol, but basically there is more emphasis placed on the effect and how it connects to the game mechanic itself. We could play with the sound here more to see if we can find other sounds just as if not more effective here. Great thread guys.
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I always thought some guns had electrical power.
Gun reloading requires energy and this can be achieved essentially in two ways: storing the energy accumulated during the combustion of the cartridge or by an external source. Some guns in GOIO (involving bullets and discharge gases) could automatically reload by storing the excess energy produced in the event of firing but for others (rockets mostly) it is simply impossible hence an external energy source is necessary.
the second argument in favor of electrically powered guns is tilting. Lumberjack (http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/gunsoficarusonline/images/c/cc/Lumberjack.png/revision/latest?cb=20130921000526) easily weights an excess of 4 metric tons, ignoring the automatic feeding mechanism and ammo storage. Same goes for any other heavy gun. In order to tilt it with such precision and speed an external power source other that muscle is required. the gunner sits on a chair, not actively participating in tilting other that providing an analogical input which is then transferred to servomotors that provide 2-axis movement. While this could be achieved through a chemical engine and steam pistons, none is to be seen on the actual gun. Instead arotary servo motor (http://www.kollmorgen.com/uploadedImages/kollmorgencom/Products/Motors/Direct_Drive/Housed_D_and_DH/Housed_D_and_DH_MEDIUM.jpg) is visible at the base of the gun and on the vertical joint, provinding the aforementioned two axis tilt. A linear actuator control box (http://img.directindustry.com/images_di/photo-g/actuator-control-enclosure-medical-7052-2313821.jpg) is seen between the two, right next to the gunner's position with reinforced cables jutting out.
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turning could be a mechanical thing, but we see no cranks for that, so i'd think theres some electric power invloved
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maybe something like this (http://freesound.org/people/KGJones/sounds/65295/) could give the feeling of a part being exclusively mechanical. Description is nice too
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Gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww...
Maybe not.
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Gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww, gurr-paawwww...
Maybe not.
oh well it is not easy to find exclusively mechanical devices, almost every rotary motor is powered by electricity if we exclude ground transportation
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The sound is fine, it's just that repeated gurr-paawwwws would make a gunner go deaf.
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The sound is fine, it's just that repeated gurr-paawwwws would make a gunner go deaf.
I was looking for a noise of groaning gears when the weapon is broken in opposition to the electrical fizz we have today
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Oh, wait, that's... that's actually quite genius! An unpleasant break sound would be a huge incentive to fix the gun!
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I always thought some guns had electrical power.
Gun reloading requires energy and this can be achieved essentially in two ways: storing the energy accumulated during the combustion of the cartridge or by an external source. Some guns in GOIO (involving bullets and discharge gases) could automatically reload by storing the excess energy produced in the event of firing but for others (rockets mostly) it is simply impossible hence an external energy source is necessary.
the second argument in favor of electrically powered guns is tilting. Lumberjack (http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/gunsoficarusonline/images/c/cc/Lumberjack.png/revision/latest?cb=20130921000526) easily weights an excess of 4 metric tons, ignoring the automatic feeding mechanism and ammo storage. Same goes for any other heavy gun. In order to tilt it with such precision and speed an external power source other that muscle is required. the gunner sits on a chair, not actively participating in tilting other that providing an analogical input which is then transferred to servomotors that provide 2-axis movement. While this could be achieved through a chemical engine and steam pistons, none is to be seen on the actual gun. Instead arotary servo motor (http://www.kollmorgen.com/uploadedImages/kollmorgencom/Products/Motors/Direct_Drive/Housed_D_and_DH/Housed_D_and_DH_MEDIUM.jpg) is visible at the base of the gun and on the vertical joint, provinding the aforementioned two axis tilt. A linear actuator control box (http://img.directindustry.com/images_di/photo-g/actuator-control-enclosure-medical-7052-2313821.jpg) is seen between the two, right next to the gunner's position with reinforced cables jutting out.
(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a563/Kamoba/Mobile%20Uploads/Captioned_zpsgtac6pyx.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/Kamoba/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Captioned_zpsgtac6pyx.jpg.html)
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The sound is fine, it's just that repeated gurr-paawwwws would make a gunner go deaf.
I was looking for a noise of groaning gears when the weapon is broken in opposition to the electrical fizz we have today
And it was a great sound, also on an update Howard forwarded some feedback from this thread to Tim, so hopefully it'll be in a patch one day :)
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I always thought some guns had electrical power.
Gun reloading requires energy and this can be achieved essentially in two ways: storing the energy accumulated during the combustion of the cartridge or by an external source. Some guns in GOIO (involving bullets and discharge gases) could automatically reload by storing the excess energy produced in the event of firing but for others (rockets mostly) it is simply impossible hence an external energy source is necessary.
the second argument in favor of electrically powered guns is tilting. Lumberjack (http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/gunsoficarusonline/images/c/cc/Lumberjack.png/revision/latest?cb=20130921000526) easily weights an excess of 4 metric tons, ignoring the automatic feeding mechanism and ammo storage. Same goes for any other heavy gun. In order to tilt it with such precision and speed an external power source other that muscle is required. the gunner sits on a chair, not actively participating in tilting other that providing an analogical input which is then transferred to servomotors that provide 2-axis movement. While this could be achieved through a chemical engine and steam pistons, none is to be seen on the actual gun. Instead arotary servo motor (http://www.kollmorgen.com/uploadedImages/kollmorgencom/Products/Motors/Direct_Drive/Housed_D_and_DH/Housed_D_and_DH_MEDIUM.jpg) is visible at the base of the gun and on the vertical joint, provinding the aforementioned two axis tilt. A linear actuator control box (http://img.directindustry.com/images_di/photo-g/actuator-control-enclosure-medical-7052-2313821.jpg) is seen between the two, right next to the gunner's position with reinforced cables jutting out.
(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a563/Kamoba/Mobile%20Uploads/Captioned_zpsgtac6pyx.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/Kamoba/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Captioned_zpsgtac6pyx.jpg.html)
(http://media.giphy.com/media/awuA6yBdZdOpy/giphy.gif)
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I'd like to point something out.
(http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/544148005125971517/1D659BD80B5A2B11CD152D2D9945EE3B54FCDF2A/)
This gear seems to be spun by the main propeller, and under it is an enclosed compartment. either that's what you're looking for or I have a serious lack of mechanical knowledge.
EDIT: After looking at this picture for a few minutes I see that it is actually not connected to the propeller at all. However, the gear is still significant (I would say).
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I'd like to point something out.
(http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/544148005125971517/1D659BD80B5A2B11CD152D2D9945EE3B54FCDF2A/)
This gear seems to be spun by the main propeller, and under it is an enclosed compartment. either that's what you're looking for or I have a serious lack of mechanical knowledge.
EDIT: After looking at this picture for a few minutes I see that it is actually not connected to the propeller at all. However, the gear is still significant (I would say).
hey that is the Black Guy!
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Also, the Gatling gun. It's not hand -cranked and it even makes an electric whine when fired.
But there are guns that don't need external electric power, like flaks, Mercury, carronade, mortar, flare... A lot of light guns, in fact. The Artemis and Banshee probably use magnetos.
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STEAMPUNK MAGIC SCIENCE
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Also, the Gatling gun. It's not hand -cranked and it even makes an electric whine when fired.
What always bothered my is why it wouldn't be more efficient to use, say, a blowback machine gun given the technology we have available.
Anyways, I always assumed that the guns were mostly hydraulic with exemptions of things like the hwatcha or gatling where you can clearly hear servos whining. Not a particular fan of the sparking particle effect, but it works gameplay-wise.
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Because multiple barrels are clearly better.
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There are some advantages to a rotary gun especially when you can't have liquid coolant. Infantry machine guns have to exchange barrels every hundred rounds or so to stop the gun warping from heat.
Interestingly, most fighter jets use multi barreled Vulcan cannons in order to have faster rate of fire than a single-barreled gun.
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Screw Vulcans!
(http://s164.photobucket.com/user/hawken50/media/hrihs8.jpg.html)