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Main => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mr. Goggles on March 19, 2015, 11:21:42 am

Title: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Mr. Goggles on March 19, 2015, 11:21:42 am
What are some of the things in GoIO that you absolutely hate–that you might leave the game for? What kinds of things are awesome enough to keep you here day after day? Be descriptive. Maybe tell a story or two.

For me:

Hate  >:( How appealingly overpowered Carronades are. Not only because of their direct damage, but also because of their ability to increase crew ineffectiveness by constantly pulling engineers away from other tasks. Also, the people that don't use mics. It can be a bit frustrating at times.

Love  :) The wonderfully humorous crowd of GoIO. The atmosphere of the game creates an environment in which people's humor can be the only thing keeping us all sane when the explosions are recking the hull and a flamer is setting everything alight. Also, the dedicated dev team working to satisfy every member of the community to the best of their ability. I've only been here for a few weeks, and already I can see how caring the Muse team is. It appears to me that GoIO is their baby–their only baby, and that makes me happy. I can rest comfortably knowing that I can come back to a game each day that is still watched over and worked on.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: David Dire on March 19, 2015, 11:26:05 am
Hate: 100% Unrealistic Airships. In real life these things could never even glide.

Love: Interesting Airship structures. The Mobula may be unrealistic as can be, but it's a super fun take on Zeppelins.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Mr. Goggles on March 19, 2015, 11:27:53 am
Hate: 100% Unrealistic Airships. In real life these things could never even glide.

Love: Interesting Airship structures. The Mobula may be unrealistic as can be, but it's a super fun take on Zeppelins.

Haha, true! But I love how ridiculous it is. I think that is what makes it enjoyable. The idea of just finding some old pirate ship and hooking a giant balloon on it sounds absolutely ineffective. But who cares! It looks wonderful.

Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Riggatto on March 19, 2015, 03:13:24 pm
Hate: people.

Love: people
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Crafeksterty on March 19, 2015, 03:41:37 pm
Hate: incompatent crew

Love: Spire (And the competetive community)
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Carn on March 19, 2015, 03:42:56 pm
Hate: silent players, not just no mic, but those who wont use voice commands or text

Love: the terror of an ally when someone brings in a munker
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: HamsterIV on March 19, 2015, 03:47:32 pm
Hate: People who trash talk in lobby

Love: Making people who trash talk in lobby rage quit
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Replaceable on March 19, 2015, 05:02:59 pm
Love: When everything is nice.

Hate: When everything isn't.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Skrimskraw on March 19, 2015, 05:56:24 pm
I agree with you goggles.
The carronade should be effective at killing balloons like it does now, but the constant engine kill and gun kills are just making the weapon the best solution to counter 80% of the game.

my hate: I hate players who doesnt listen.

my love: players who listen

some more content relevant. fucking love spires and mobulas
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Mr. Goggles on March 19, 2015, 07:26:47 pm
I agree with you goggles.
The carronade should be effective at killing balloons like it does now, but the constant engine kill and gun kills are just making the weapon the best solution to counter 80% of the game.

Yeah, I just wonder what ship they would make the beginner ship if they nerved it.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Sarabelle Marlowe on March 19, 2015, 08:57:21 pm
Love: The *thonk* sound and feel of a heavy flak killing a target. MMmmmm.

Hate: Getting stuck with a second gunner in the middle of the game and refuses to change.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: ShadedExalt on March 19, 2015, 09:04:07 pm
Love: The *thonk* sound and feel of a heavy flak killing a target. MMmmmm.

Hate: Getting stuck with a second gunner in the middle of the game and refuses to change.

Oh man, agree to both of those points.

H.Flak = Most satisfying gun in the entire game.  It handles well, the effects are great, and dear lord does it FEEL like you're firing a shell full of muderous death.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Sarabelle Marlowe on March 19, 2015, 09:11:18 pm
It's the reason I play gunner. One of the things that keeps me playing is the genuine feel and sounds of the guns. The *thonk* of the heavy flack, the explosions from the hwatcha, the *thomp thomp thomp* of the mortar... even the reload sounds are really awesome.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Richard LeMoon on March 19, 2015, 09:30:33 pm
Love: Moonshine

Hate: Those that question moonshine.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Squidslinger Gilder on March 19, 2015, 11:03:14 pm
Hate: Muse's design decisions

Love: Muse's design decisions

That sums up everything perfectly.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Kamoba on March 20, 2015, 03:14:03 am
Hate: People who trash talk in lobby

Love: Making people who trash talk in lobby rage quit

This. ^


Also:

I love: How close knit and friendly the community is!

I hate: That the community is not as big as its heart which is surely deserves to be.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Hoja Lateralus on March 20, 2015, 05:23:36 am
I love: most things before 1.3.8

I hate: most things after 1.3.8, with "worst shit ever" award to GLORIOUS MATCHMAKER
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: ShadedExalt on March 20, 2015, 02:17:26 pm
Love: Moonshine
Love: That feel when you execute a perfect maneuver followed by a perfect strip/H.Flak
Love: When I pull of a perfect engi cycle
Love: The gatling and everything to do with it- Noises, what it does, how it does it... Delicious gat.  Everything can ALWAYS use an extra gat.
Love: The noise of a Hades and also that feel when you land a whole clip of greased Hades...

Hate: Munkers (On both teams, because somebody has a Munker, they give no shits about you or anybody else.)
Hate: When my engis complain about Moonshine
Hate: Carronades countering everything
Hate: Crew that don't listen
Hate: The fact that I have never been able to successfully fly a Spire
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Mr. Goggles on March 20, 2015, 02:24:45 pm
Hate: The fact that I have never been able to successfully fly a Spire

HAHA. YES. I share this difficult. They always seem to break too easily for me. And when I do a long range spire, I always get poo gunners:/
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Piemanlives on March 20, 2015, 02:25:18 pm
When in doubt brawler spire, never works, but it can.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: ShadedExalt on March 20, 2015, 02:27:02 pm
Hate: The fact that I have never been able to successfully fly a Spire

HAHA. YES. I share this difficult. They always seem to break too easily for me. And when I do a long range spire, I always get poo gunners:/

No, whenever I try my crew goes brain dead.  They don't fire main guns, they shoot nothing but flare... Half the time they stand by the broken hull staring at it, range finder in hand.  They don't talk, they don't listen...

It's like, I get the crews everyone complains about when I even TOUCH the Spire, but rarely with other ships.

When in doubt brawler spire, never works, but it can.

I figured Hwacha Spire would work- Dual Gat/Kill Hwacha.  But nope, like I said, brain dead crew.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: BlackenedPies on March 20, 2015, 03:06:02 pm

No, whenever I try my crew goes brain dead.  They don't fire main guns, they shoot nothing but flare... Half the time they stand by the broken hull staring at it, range finder in hand.  They don't talk, they don't listen...

It's like, I get the crews everyone complains about when I even TOUCH the Spire, but rarely with other ships.

[...]

I figured Hwacha Spire would work- Dual Gat/Kill Hwacha.  But nope, like I said, brain dead crew.

Repairing too much can be a big problem for spires, but it sounds like your problems extend beyond that. Once you have a good crew you trust then switch to the spire. Crews like spires because everyone gets a gun and repairs are relatively easy.

I'm not a fan of double gat hwatcha because it relies on your disable weapon for the kill. Since you don't have any other disable you need a very quick kill when their armor breaks which hwatcha can't always do. Unless you're against a Pyramidion, double gat hwatcha is too risky for my taste.

The classic brawl spire is hwatcha gat mortar, which even works well with AI. The hwatcha disables them for long enough while gat mortar works its magic. Have the mortar upstairs with lesmok. When I do this I have a spanner mallet buff burst engi on hwatcha. The  gat engi brings wrench buff chem and heavy clip and pre loads hwatcha depending on circumstance. Having a gunner works too.

There are many other brawl spire loadouts that work but be careful when up against ranged enemies. A spire's biggest adversary is range. Getting blended from above is also a problem. To deal with lots of balloon popping use hydro before your balloon is popped. I like bringing both hydrogen and drogue chute to deal with blender fish.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Carn on March 20, 2015, 03:11:22 pm
Ah the eternal use hydro before the blender gets in range, a lot of the time the hydro just wrecks the balloon for me, i seem to have trouble gauging it, also what button did they move the tar to?
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: BlackenedPies on March 20, 2015, 03:24:05 pm
Ah the eternal use hydro before the blender gets in range, a lot of the time the hydro just wrecks the balloon for me, i seem to have trouble gauging it, also what button did they move the tar to?


To activate tar select the tool and click. It has a cool down so test it out in practice.

I hope you're not using tar on a spire! You should always have your guns turned on the opponent which is easy on spire due to the high turning speed.

Fighting blenders is a lot about instinct and practice. It's a pity that blending is so easy and many players have probably left because of it.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: MagKel on March 20, 2015, 08:21:32 pm
blending is indeed too easy and it is interesting how most of the killing is done by metas and blenders. Yet I do believe people leaves a match mostly because of flamers and disable. I don't know personally, I always stick to the end.

I flew a spire with carro hwacha hades flare lately and I must say the ship is hard to master but very very responsive
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Carn on March 20, 2015, 08:25:01 pm
i've only ever left a match maybe 2 times, and that was because i had so much lag i was a hinderance
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: BlackenedPies on March 20, 2015, 08:38:27 pm
I meant players leaving the game... But yeah carro and flame are very frustrating for newer players. The engineers and pilots don't know how to deal with it and it's not fun dying that way. Easy to use hard to defend against.

One thing you might wanna try on a spire especially with a top hades is a right side mine. Against charging pyras and fish you as the pilot can put a mine right in front of them. Or are you using greased for the hades to complement the carro?
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: MagKel on March 20, 2015, 08:51:12 pm
yup, greased hades for short range and some spectacular switching between the two engis of the bottom deck since they have burst and heavy one each. It goes down to this:

Spanner mallet spray heavy (fires heavy hwacha when in long range, fires heavy carronade when in close range)
Pipe hammer ext burst  (buffs when in long range, fires bursts hwacha when in close range)
Spanner mallet spray greased (hades all the time)
Spanner kero claw hydro heatsink (fires flaregun at enemy's balloon or skywhales)

what i love most how less effective the metas and blenders are if we face them. Gat/mortar? so cute, let me take it from you while i busy your engi on the balloon
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: BlackenedPies on March 20, 2015, 09:22:47 pm
I like your loadout because it all makes sense. Because gun buffs last 90 seconds they can top off bottom deck buffs at longer range. The pipe buff can also get the carro buffed and ready for the swap.

On spawn the heavy clip guy starts hwatcha reload, starts and finishes carro load, then finishes hwatcha load while the buff guy buffs. Sounds like good solid spire fun.

Although I like heatsink for flares, heavy clip is fun because you can snipe components. My life has been saved many times from flare snipes.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: MagKel on March 20, 2015, 09:39:16 pm
On spawn the heavy clip guy starts hwatcha reload, starts and finishes carro load, then finishes hwatcha load while the buff guy buffs.

You have no idea how much time it took me to explain this to the random crews with which I tested it just for the sake of it. But then they got it and we murdered.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Carn on March 20, 2015, 09:45:58 pm
this has turned into a "how effective can a spire be" thread
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: MagKel on March 20, 2015, 09:57:11 pm
Love: how informative this forum is

Hate: how off-topic every thread goes after a few posts

^^
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Dutch Vanya on March 20, 2015, 10:06:56 pm
Love: how informative this forum is

Hate: how off-topic every thread goes after a few posts

^^

All the good forums go off topic. When overly moderated it's not really natural human discussion.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Carn on March 20, 2015, 10:11:01 pm
indeed, look at the pit for example  :D
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Squidslinger Gilder on March 21, 2015, 12:34:59 am

Hate: Munkers (On both teams, because somebody has a Munker, they give no shits about you or anybody else.)


*Creepy maniacal laugh* He He he he he he hehehe hehehehehehehe

(https://i.imgflip.com/ihuts.jpg)
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Replaceable on March 21, 2015, 05:47:08 am
indeed, look at the pit for example  :D

The pit is my favourite.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Dutch Vanya on March 21, 2015, 05:57:18 am
indeed, look at the pit for example  :D

The pit is my favourite.

I only just realized that pit posts don't show up under new unread posts. I've been missing out all this time.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: David Dire on March 21, 2015, 10:20:01 am
indeed, look at the pit for example  :D

The pit is my favourite.

I have literally transpired to basically only posting in the pit (excessively too) about two weeks after I got on the forums.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Carn on March 21, 2015, 10:20:41 am
indeed, look at the pit for example  :D

The pit is my favourite.

ALL HAIL THE PIT!! that beautiful seductive mistress
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: ShadedExalt on March 21, 2015, 11:21:41 am

Hate: Munkers (On both teams, because somebody has a Munker, they give no shits about you or anybody else.)


*Creepy maniacal laugh* He He he he he he hehehe hehehehehehehe

(https://i.imgflip.com/ihuts.jpg)

I was waiting for you to resoond, you dirty bastard! *shakes fist*
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Carn on March 21, 2015, 11:40:21 am
ah munkers, its been to long since i gave into the mine madness
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Replaceable on March 24, 2015, 07:09:43 pm
indeed, look at the pit for example  :D

The pit is my favourite.

ALL HAIL THE PIT!! that beautiful seductive mistress
Pro tip: Have the pit on your favourites bar.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: ShadedExalt on April 23, 2015, 01:38:01 pm
This deserves a Necro.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: DJ Logicalia on April 24, 2015, 06:57:34 am
Love: Pancakes
Hate: Everything that is not pancakes
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: ShadedExalt on April 24, 2015, 07:33:49 am
Love: Pancakes
Hate: Everything that is not pancakes

What about music?
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: DJ Logicalia on April 24, 2015, 08:16:09 am
Love: Pancakes
Hate: Everything that is not pancakes

What about music?
Music is pancakes, obviously
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Letus on April 24, 2015, 09:12:08 am
Love:  The Lumberjack, sniping out a gun with a carronade, the....you know what...it might be able to list what I hate....

Hate:  ........okay so I guess I was wrong.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Carn on April 24, 2015, 10:12:34 am
Love: Pancakes
Hate: Everything that is not pancakes

What about music?
Music is pancakes, obviously
and mines?
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: ShadedExalt on April 24, 2015, 10:57:32 am
Love: Pancakes
Hate: Everything that is not pancakes

What about music?
Music is pancakes, obviously
and mines?

And waffles.

And french toast.

And Hwacha.

And Loch H.Flak.
Title: Re: The Love - Hate Thread.
Post by: Carn on April 24, 2015, 11:24:51 am
I mean come on, who doesn't love a successful heavy flak loch shot. But mines! Oh the glory of 200 mines in one match, its quite the site.