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Title: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on December 01, 2014, 07:46:44 pm
Surely there are legends and veterans and government officials that have contributed to the history of the universe.

I mean for adventure mode. I would highly expect some NPCs to either mention people or even be the actual people in question.

If there are none why not make this an idea pool.
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Squidslinger Gilder on December 01, 2014, 08:15:15 pm
There are few names outside of the original Gabriel who is the father of airships. The Baronies has a King Greger listed. Aside from that, not really any individual names. There is just nations or territory names.
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on December 01, 2014, 08:26:12 pm
So no names to who invented the juggernaut (we need a ship based off that, like a down sized version)

The various guns. Origins of various costumes and heroes who wore them. That being said that could be interesting thing.

Like if you had success in the wanted stuff or won tournaments. The clan/player gets mentioned in the lore (albeit taking liberties with the name to fit with the tone of the lore).
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: RedRoach on December 01, 2014, 09:46:24 pm
I've seen, possibly joking, suggestions to put the famous Burning Skies Saloon into Adventure Mode.

Now, the man who runs the Burning Skies Saloon should also be quite famed, yes?
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on December 01, 2014, 10:47:31 pm
it'd fit the lore.

I just hope some dude called XedgeX123 doesn't win some sorta contest to be added into the lore.

What do you guys think of a regular fanfiction contest to expand the universe. Constantly building on previous contests.
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Squidslinger Gilder on December 02, 2014, 05:45:42 am
There is a Guns of Icarus Visual Novel in dev. Its a fan project. I'm actually one of the writers on it. We haven't posted updates in awhile because the guy running the group has pretty much vanished and it looks to be changing hands. I can say we've got 5/6 stories in draft form. Average of about 70k words. One peaks at 85k. Plus a neutral story which ties the faction stories together at around 30k. It does have Muse's blessing, but we don't have access to any internal lore Muse is designing. It needs to go through Muse before any parts of it would be considered canon.

Any fan made project right now is not canon. We may use ideas Muse has stated or implied, but its not canon until Muse writes it in. The Aerodrome event is a byproduct of the VN development and I had to add a disclaimer at the end of the last big trailer cause I had folks thinking it was canon. I don't know what Muse is going to eventually do regarding the lore. I can tell you after working on the VN for over a year now that, its rich. So much potential. You really don't see it till you sit down and start thinking about it and writing something. I very much enjoy it and would love to be apart of it in some small manner. Heck without it I probably wouldn't be around here still. I might have to go back and rewrite some of the VN stories pending on whatever direction Muse goes. But thats not a bad thing. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Kamoba on December 02, 2014, 06:30:05 am
Engines are named after members of the Dev team, the Kovansky Special costumes are named after YouTubers who had a big part in the game, so I do imagine such things will continue to mark this game as a community friendly game in adventure mode.

But, to make a legend, be a legend!

Spud Nick is a legend in his own right with people talking about his feats. Overwatch and Storm Ryder's two big guilds leaving a distinct mark on the world without a need to be written in stone! :)

Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: BdrLineAzn on December 02, 2014, 10:46:13 am
Things can happen, we did have one person created by the community to become canon and that's Sir Isaac Philips of Chaladon. With the RP threads, we tend to make it with just the basic knowledge we are given by Muse and expand it through our own imagination that would try and fit in with the lore.
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Kamoba on December 02, 2014, 10:55:03 am
Which reminds me I must talk to my clan mates about making our roleplay stories and lore more public. :)
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on December 02, 2014, 03:40:55 pm
A VN? Really woulda thought an rpgmaker game would fit way more.

There are steampunk assets (well besides character sprites) to easily recreate for Guns.

just look at skyborn here.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/278460/
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Squidslinger Gilder on December 02, 2014, 09:32:45 pm
It goes with a joke at the time. See the founder of the group was one of the casters in the community. Back then the merc was OP and we fought many extremely long battles. One of them, he started discussing our ship names. We used Japanese or anime references. So he went off on an anime tangent for a few on the stream. Community raged a bit about it, but lot of laughs to be had too. Then we started talking about visual novels and the idea popped. I only got involved after some story arc ideas started getting posted. Sat down and hashed out a basic skeleton design for the entire VN. Took about 4hrs. Pitched it to them. Then rest is history. The thread is still on the forums but its buried in the General forum somewhere.
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: GeoRmr on December 02, 2014, 09:34:16 pm
A VN? Really woulda thought an rpgmaker game would fit way more.

B-but senpai, the JP voice commands...
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on December 02, 2014, 11:16:17 pm
So is the story a satirical story or is it story that takes itself too seriously story?
What system does it use? affinity or arbitrary route system?

Now that I think about it. I am kinda getting curious about making an rpgmaker game retelling the story of Gabriel and the creation of the Icarus.
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Squidslinger Gilder on December 03, 2014, 01:30:39 am
Its multiple stories. One route is cloak n dagger, another is more of a pirate/barbarism route. Political wranglings between two nations on another. Survival story. Then one with some mafia tones. Some have cross over with each other, some don't.

Using Renpy engine. Bit of inspiration from Katawa Shoujo.
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on December 03, 2014, 02:20:11 am
by katawa shoujo I assume you mean the reason why you're using that engine and probably interface.

Because taking story influences from it is kinda... yeah.
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Squidslinger Gilder on December 03, 2014, 06:52:15 am
Engine, interface, styling. Story nah. Though many of the team are big Hanako fans, including me :D.
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on December 03, 2014, 09:06:56 am
well I've always ever had fun with VN as H-games with the "good endings." So it will be interesting to see if I can be entertained by this. Also kinda curious how the story can be so vividly diverse.

My writing sensibilities demands to know what the theme that holds the whole plot together (don't say the guns universe-if you're a writer you know exactly what I mean).
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Indreams on December 03, 2014, 11:08:10 am
Maybe to put us closer to the topic,

I hope we see some of the most prominent members of the community feature as NPCs, or have references to them.
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Kamoba on December 03, 2014, 11:32:35 am
Maybe to put us closer to the topic,

I hope we see some of the most prominent members of the community feature as NPCs, or have references to them.


I agree!
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Squidslinger Gilder on December 03, 2014, 03:46:56 pm
well I've always ever had fun with VN as H-games with the "good endings." So it will be interesting to see if I can be entertained by this. Also kinda curious how the story can be so vividly diverse.

My writing sensibilities demands to know what the theme that holds the whole plot together (don't say the guns universe-if you're a writer you know exactly what I mean).

I got a bad ending on one arc where the protagonist gets gutted while the heroine, who's gone evil, just watches on while she's wiping out a city. Which may change later. In someways its better to go all out first, then dial it back. That arc actually has some internal fans who love it for the opposite reasons. Tho when I added the bad route, one just was speechless. "Gilder...that..that...ending..." Heh...it'll be edited when we get to working on the individual arcs.
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on December 03, 2014, 06:42:30 pm
suspending disbelief.

We all know how useless 1 guy only on a ship is.
Now imagine that 1 guy and maybe some AI vs a whole community filled with crew filled ships. Kinda boned.

Unless of course its not via airship (like some ancient doomsday device). Or its via some political sabotage by tricking some military to do it.

As for the prominent people of the community... what exactly defines that? I think I'm really important. As the leader of AI, in the game canon I would totally be related to the joke "everyone hates AI" and my being mistaken for being AI (especially now that they are orange gimp robots).

And lets not forget my catch phrase. "It's cool. My clan is with me"
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Indreams on December 03, 2014, 09:06:46 pm
Prominent member is kinda hard to define, yea. I don't consider myself a prominent member, yet some people know me before they play with me (probably from the forums).

But some are pretty obvious.

Shink is to blame.
Melon is to ram.
Zill is to amazing pilot.
Hamster is to popularizing Zill is an amazing pilot.
Zuka is to Zukasauce
Rethburn is to fan fictions.

I'm leaving some really cool, famous people out, but these are just examples that I know. Many players have some claim to being known. I guess it'd just have to be a competition for fame.
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on December 03, 2014, 10:19:00 pm
If we're going by heroes (as per thread)

Leuosi is the only pilot I feel I have to play by S class game.

prayers to satan. hype up with copious amounts of sugar and play cheese builds.
all at the same time. I've found I only do it against leuosi. Guy's a monster.

Tropo. Honourable mention. He's the benchmark of A class piloting
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Kamoba on December 04, 2014, 05:46:39 am
You both forgot Spud Nick!

But things should not be restricted to well known pilots, gunners and engineers should be given some love...

How to decide who should get the "love" well if it's just based on renown there are two threads on these forums naming good captains and crew... That's a start :)
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Mod Josie on December 04, 2014, 05:59:21 am
Maybe to put us closer to the topic,

I hope we see some of the most prominent members of the community feature as NPCs, or have references to them.

For any of you who remember TimmyB (http://gunsoficarus.com/blog/dedicated-to-timmyb/).

It's definitely not out of the question that other players will get nods in the lore somewhere down the line. That being said, the lore is a closely kept secret that not even I am fully privy to. I know it'd be a really interesting thing to see. Many players have got characters that they associate with that are built around the lore, myself included (https://gunsoficarus.com/community/forum/index.php/topic,4192.0.html). That's not the entirety of my story mind you - only what I cared to divulge!
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Squidslinger Gilder on December 04, 2014, 06:34:26 am
But I will forever push for Muse to include Jacob as one of the Barons....heh heh

It'll be a cause worthy of my attention just like perpetually calling for the classic Squid to return in all it's glory!

I'm actually going to start making more identifiable characters in the Aerodrome stuff. The first major one is Princess Nulia played by Shadak. Then Jacob who plays the Baron of Ravenrook. From there, I've got some designs. I want to work on something with Byron but that'll probably be next year.
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on December 04, 2014, 06:42:30 am
the lore is a closely kept secret that not even I am fully privy to.

That's writer's code for I don't even know but I'll make it seem like: I do/it has been already planned.
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Squidslinger Gilder on December 04, 2014, 07:18:31 am
the lore is a closely kept secret that not even I am fully privy to.

That's writer's code for I don't even know but I'll make it seem like: I do/it has been already planned.

Actually its more like...he could tell you but then he'd have to kill you :P

Some of us know things...scary things...things that would make you wet yourself at night!
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Piemanlives on December 04, 2014, 12:26:22 pm
Sir Issac Phillips was already mentioned, but can I just say he was a badass scientist and inventor if there was one? I mean he could crash a rocket propelled craft into a small commune and survive with naught but a chipped teacup, all men aspire to be Sir Issac Phillips.
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Mod Josie on December 04, 2014, 12:27:30 pm
the lore is a closely kept secret that not even I am fully privy to.

That's writer's code for I don't even know but I'll make it seem like: I do/it has been already planned.

Actually its more like...he could tell you but then he'd have to kill you :P

Some of us know things...scary things...things that would make you wet yourself at night!

My NDA is so watertight that Muse didn't even give me the information to disclose in the first place!
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on December 04, 2014, 07:42:08 pm
I know jacob but what I meant is that if a writer or those privy tells that to you it meant what I said previously.

Whether thats fact or not, it certainly gives me licence to spam headcanon
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: ShadedExalt on December 04, 2014, 09:30:23 pm
by katawa shoujo I assume you mean the reason why you're using that engine and probably interface.

Because taking story influences from it is kinda... yeah.

Please, god no.  Too many feels.  No more!  NO MORE, PLEASE!  OH GOD WHY?!
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Squidslinger Gilder on December 05, 2014, 06:18:04 am
by katawa shoujo I assume you mean the reason why you're using that engine and probably interface.

Because taking story influences from it is kinda... yeah.

Please, god no.  Too many feels.  No more!  NO MORE, PLEASE!  OH GOD WHY?!

There is no ending but Hanako!!! Maybe Lily...but still...HANAKO!!!!
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Jester Schulz on December 05, 2014, 07:26:20 am
by katawa shoujo I assume you mean the reason why you're using that engine and probably interface.

Because taking story influences from it is kinda... yeah.

Please, god no.  Too many feels.  No more!  NO MORE, PLEASE!  OH GOD WHY?!

There is no ending but Hanako!!! Maybe Lily...but still...HANAKO!!!!

But....Lily though....
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: ShadedExalt on December 05, 2014, 10:10:25 am
by katawa shoujo I assume you mean the reason why you're using that engine and probably interface.

Because taking story influences from it is kinda... yeah.

Please, god no.  Too many feels.  No more!  NO MORE, PLEASE!  OH GOD WHY?!

There is no ending but Hanako!!! Maybe Lily...but still...HANAKO!!!!

But....Lily though....

My personal favourites are Lilly and Hanako.  All the routes are good, but Lilly will forever be best girl, with Hanako a ridiculously close second.  Also, could someone direct me to a thread with information relating to Sir Isaac Phillips?

Another famous player to add as an NPC might be BdrLineAzn.  Top clans could be companies that 'hire' new crewmen.  Each Clans' leader would be the actual leader, and they should have all the eccentricities of the actual clans.  Like Cake loving fire, and the Ducks having ducks all over the place.
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Squidslinger Gilder on December 05, 2014, 05:50:02 pm
Yeah Lily was nice. Honestly, I modeled the Baronies girl a little after Lily. Not the blindness/etc but the appearance and overall warmth of the character. In fact on the public doc we have of the VN from back then, if you scroll down to her it should list Lily on it. What does she look like...theres Lily's name.
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on December 06, 2014, 10:32:07 am
by katawa shoujo I assume you mean the reason why you're using that engine and probably interface.

Because taking story influences from it is kinda... yeah.

Please, god no.  Too many feels.  No more!  NO MORE, PLEASE!  OH GOD WHY?!

There is no ending but Hanako!!! Maybe Lily...but still...HANAKO!!!!

But....Lily though....

My personal favourites are Lilly and Hanako.  All the routes are good, but Lilly will forever be best girl, with Hanako a ridiculously close second.  Also, could someone direct me to a thread with information relating to Sir Isaac Phillips?

Another famous player to add as an NPC might be BdrLineAzn.  Top clans could be companies that 'hire' new crewmen.  Each Clans' leader would be the actual leader, and they should have all the eccentricities of the actual clans.  Like Cake loving fire, and the Ducks having ducks all over the place.

this wouldn't work as people would already be in clans. For the sake of consistency with RP players that might be an issue. I imagine that adventure mode uses Flight of the Icarus as a model/prototype for adventure mode.

And with that in mind I identify very strongly as an AI. Playing clannies to Cake and etc when  I'm an AI feels wrong. Then again I do identify more as a mercenary player/clan, so its less of an issue with me to work with cake and gents and clan and etc on that basis.

The best resolution would be to just have the clans be merely lore fluff as opposed to actual in-game stuff.
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Piemanlives on December 06, 2014, 04:08:18 pm

My personal favourites are Lilly and Hanako.  All the routes are good, but Lilly will forever be best girl, with Hanako a ridiculously close second.  Also, could someone direct me to a thread with information relating to Sir Isaac Phillips?
http://gunsoficarus.com/community/forumarchive/discussion/423/the-description-game#Item_150
 
Welcome to the old forum, it's a mess of idiocy.
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: ShadedExalt on December 07, 2014, 12:07:18 am
But idiocy is the most desirable trait in a ships' captain!  Seriously though, it can't be THAT bad, surely...










...Could it?
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: BdrLineAzn on December 07, 2014, 12:18:42 pm
But idiocy is the most desirable trait in a ships' captain!  Seriously though, it can't be THAT bad, surely...










...Could it?

Hehehehe HAHAHAHAHAAAA
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: ShadedExalt on December 07, 2014, 08:53:34 pm
But idiocy is the most desirable trait in a ships' captain!  Seriously though, it can't be THAT bad, surely...










...Could it?

Hehehehe HAHAHAHAHAAAA


...I have no words.



Leaves quietly
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: Piemanlives on December 07, 2014, 10:10:26 pm
But idiocy is the most desirable trait in a ships' captain!  Seriously though, it can't be THAT bad, surely...










...Could it?

Hehehehe HAHAHAHAHAAAA


...I have no words.



Leaves quietly

LOOK UPON OUR WORKS YE MIGHTY, AND DESPAIR!
Title: Re: Heroes and officials of Guns
Post by: ShadedExalt on December 07, 2014, 11:31:57 pm
But idiocy is the most desirable trait in a ships' captain!  Seriously though, it can't be THAT bad, surely...










...Could it?

Hehehehe HAHAHAHAHAAAA


...I have no words.



Leaves quietly

LOOK UPON OUR WORKS YE MIGHTY, AND DESPAIR!

Been there, done that, even bought a t-shirt.  Never again.