Guns Of Icarus Online
Community => Community Events => Topic started by: Deltajugg on August 17, 2014, 10:52:05 pm
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Out of boredom I made some ship pick/win ratings from HC tournament. If anyone's interested in numbers, here you go.
How to read Win/Loss:
Wins and Losses are direct wins and losses with particular ships, regardless of enemy ships and the amount of ships of one type in a team.If, for example, you had double pyra vs double pyra match, 2 additional wins and 2 additional losses are included in the total pool for pyramidion, one per every pyramidion that won/lost the match.
Anvil Division
84 ships
21 matches
Ship Picked Pick % Win Loss Draw W/L %
Pyramidion 52 61.9% 27 24 1 51.9%
Junker 12 15.8% 6 5 1 54.5%
Goldfish 11 13.1% 6 5 0 54.5%
Mobula 5 6.6% 0 3 2 0%
Galleon 4 5.3% 1 3 0 25%
Squid 0 0% 0 0 0 0%
Spire 0 0% 0 0 0 0%
Hammer Division
80 ships
20 matches
Ship Picked Pick % Win Loss Draw W/L %
Pyramidion 46 57.5% 25 21 0 54.3%
Goldfish 15 18.8% 5 10 0 33.3%
Junker 9 10.2% 4 5 0 44.4%
Mobula 5 5.7% 4 1 0 80%
Galleon 3 3.4% 1 2 0 33.3%
Spire 2 2.3% 1 1 0 50%
Squid 0 0% 0 0 0 0%
Cross Division
28 ships
7 matches
Ship Picked Pick % Win Loss Draw W/L %
Pyramidion 12 42.9% 6 6 0 50%
Junker 7 25% 3 4 0 42.9%
Goldfish 4 14.3% 3 1 0 75%
Galleon 2 7.1% 1 1 0 50%
Squid 2 7.1% 0 2 0 0%
Mobula 1 3.6% 1 0 0 100%
Spire 0 0% 0 0 0 0%
Silver Playoffs
36 ships
9 matches
Ship Picked Pick % Win Loss Draw W/L %
Pyramidion 21 58.3% 11 10 0 52.4%
Goldfish 6 16.7% 1 5 0 16.7%
Mobula 4 11.1% 4 0 0 100%
Junker 3 8.3% 1 2 0 33.3%
Galleon 2 5.6% 1 1 0 50%
Squid 0 0% 0 0 0 0%
Spire 0 0% 0 0 0 0%
Golden Playoffs
44 ships
11 matches
Ship Picked Pick % Win Loss Draw W/L %
Pyramidion 29 65.9% 15 14 0 51.7%
Mobula 7 15.9% 6 1 0 85.7%
Goldfish 3 6.8% 1 2 0 33.3%
Junker 3 6.8% 0 3 0 0%
Spire 2 4.5% 0 2 0 0%
Galleon 0 0% 0 0 0 0%
Squid 0 0% 0 0 0 0%
TOTAL
272 ships
68 matches
Ship Picked Pick % Win Loss Draw W/L %
Pyramidion 160 58.8% 84 75 1 52.5%
Goldfish 39 14.3% 16 23 0 41%
Junker 34 12.5% 14 19 1 41.2%
Mobula 22 8.1% 15 5 2 68.2%
Galleon 11 4% 4 7 0 36.4%
Spire 4 1.5% 1 3 0 25%
Squid 2 0.7% 0 2 0 0%
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Poor squid. It's one thing to be out of the meta (hi galleon!) and another to be completely left on the sidelines.
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Poor squid. It's one thing to be out of the meta (hi galleon!) and another to be completely left on the sidelines.
Don't get me started...
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indeed, the squid and Galleon do need a little adjustment to work in some sort of meta. Pyramidion is just used a lot because it can fit a lot of different meta with just it two forward facing light guns.
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Mobula OP
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Mobula OP
Agreed
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Slight miscalculation on my side,I sometimes included draw matches while calculating W/L ratio, which I shouldn't do.
Proper statistics for ships with draws:
Anvil Division
Ship Picked Pick % Win Loss Draw W/L %
Pyramidion 52 61.9% 27 24 1 52.9%
Junker 12 15.8% 6 5 1 54.5%
Mobula 5 6.6% 0 3 2 0%
TOTAL
Ship Picked Pick % Win Loss Draw W/L %
Pyramidion 160 58.8% 84 75 1 52.8%
Junker 34 12.5% 14 19 1 42.4%
Mobula 22 8.1% 15 5 2 75%
Mobula even more OP
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I'm going to assume the majority of those mob wins came on Dunes.
Maybe some on Fjords.
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I'm going to assume the majority of those mob wins came on Dunes.
Maybe some on Fjords.
Majority of them came from Daniel on any map available, including Duel at Dawn, Paritan Rumble and Canyon Ambush :P
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I'm going to assume the majority of those mob wins came on Dunes.
Maybe some on Fjords.
Majority of them came from Daniel on any map available, including Duel at Dawn, Paritan Rumble and Canyon Ambush :P
It's just the best ship, man.
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Mobula has always been a good ship on any map, they are now just acting like it is something special.
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Thinks the mobula isn't special
Where is its balloon?
It was born special.
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Ok, The mobula is special. Dementio is not.
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that's kinda mean
also kinda
wut.
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this doesnt take into acount for same ship vs same ship matches.
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Mobula has always been a good ship on any map, they are now just acting like it is something special.
I beg to differ about the any map part, but the mobula is pretty underrated in the hands of the right pilot.
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with that former post I meant that if 2 pyras are going against eachother there will always be a loss and a win.
that doesnt show that it is more or less effective.
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I would be interested to know the pyramidion loadout info and win/loss rate (aka how many of those were metamidions).
I would also be interested to know the most common ship pairings and their win/loss rate. I'd be very surprised I guess if the vast majority of games didn't feature at least one pyra on the team.
Also would like to know the general gun use rate, with a large weight (perhaps 4:1) towards front vs side facing guns. I wonder what the amount of sniping that went on is.
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I would be interested to know the pyramidion loadout info and win/loss rate (aka how many of those were metamidions).
I would also be interested to know the most common ship pairings and their win/loss rate. I'd be very surprised I guess if the vast majority of games didn't feature at least one pyra on the team.
Also would like to know the general gun use rate, with a large weight (perhaps 4:1) towards front vs side facing guns. I wonder what the amount of sniping that went on is.
Pyramidion Pick/Win Ratings based on Layout
Anvil Division
Ship Picked Pick % Win Loss Draw W/L%
52 ships
Metamidion 20 38.5% 10 10 50%
Hades/Flak 7 13.5% 5 2 71.4%
Gat/Carro 6 11.5% 4 2 66.7%
Carro/Flamer 5 9.6% 3 2 60%
Carrot 4 7.7% 3 1 75%
Double Merc 3 5.8% 1 1 1 50%
Hades/Art 2 3.8% 1 1 50%
Double Hades 2 3.8% 0 2 0%
Double Gat 1 1.9% 0 1 0%
Hades/Banshee 1 1.9% 0 1 0%
Carro/Banshee 1 1.9% 0 1 0%
Hammer Division
Ship Picked Pick % Win Loss W/L%
46 ships
Metamidion 23 50% 14 9 60.1%
Hades/Flak 13 28.3% 8 5 61.5%
Carrot 4 8.7% 0 4 0%
Gat/Carro 2 4.3% 1 1 50%
Hades/Art 1 2.2% 1 0 100%
Art/Banshee 1 2.2% 1 0 100%
Double Merc 1 2.2% 0 1 0%
Carro/Flamer 1 2.2% 0 1 0%
Cross Divison
Ship Picked Pick % Win Loss W/L%
12 ships
Metamidion 6 50% 1 4 16.7%
Hades/Flak 3 25% 2 1 66.7%
Carrot 2 16.7% 2 0 100%
Merc/Art 1 8.3% 1 0 100%
Silver Playoffs
Ship Picked Pick % Win Loss W/L%
21 ships
Metamidion 12 57.1% 7 5 58.3%
Merc/Art 3 14.3% 2 1 66.7%
Hades/Flak 3 14.3% 1 2 33.3%
Double Hades 1 4.8% 1 0 100%
Carrot 1 4.8% 0 1 0%
Gat/Carro 1 4.8% 0 1 0%
Golden Playoffs
Ship Picked Pick % Win Loss W/L%
29 ships
Metamidion 16 55.2% 9 7 56.3%
Hades/Flak 5 17.2% 2 3 40%
Merc/Art 3 10.3% 1 2 33.3%
Double Merc 2 6.9% 1 1 50%
Gat/Carro 2 6.9% 1 1 50%
Carro/Flamer 1 3.4% 1 0 100%
TOTAL
Ship Picked Pick % Win Loss Draw W/L%
160 ships
Metamidion 77 48.1% 41 36 53.2%
Hades/Flak 31 19.4% 18 13 58.1%
Gat/Carro 11 6.9% 6 5 54.5%
Carrot 11 6.9% 5 6 45.5%
Merc/Art 7 4.4% 4 3 57.1%
Carro/Flamer 7 4.4% 4 3 57.1%
Double Merc 6 3.8% 2 3 1 40%
Hades/Art 3 1.9% 2 1 66.7%
Double Hades 3 1.9% 1 2 33.3%
Art/Banshee 1 0.6% 1 0 100%
Double Gat 1 0.6% 0 1 0%
Hades/Banshee 1 0.6% 0 1 0%
Carro/Banshee 1 0.6% 0 1 0%
Also, as far as I cannot exactly promise gun usage ratings, I am eager to make the ship ratings based on their pairings.
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You're the best Deltajugg!
The amount of metamidions is unsurprising - what is neat is that people seemed to enjoy a wide smattering of gun types on the pyramidion - more so I think than any other ship can boast - even those with more guns. I'd like to think this is a product of the dominance of the pyra - it is an extremely versatile platform that performs well basically in any scenario and teamcomp, with the right guns.
I am saddened (though unsurprised) to see the increase in the amount of metamidion usage during the playoffs - it seems people were more open to experimentation during the season but during the final stretch reverted to the "safe" and proven metamidion.
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You're the best Deltajugg!
The amount of metamidions is unsurprising - what is neat is that people seemed to enjoy a wide smattering of gun types on the pyramidion - more so I think than any other ship can boast - even those with more guns. I'd like to think this is a product of the dominance of the pyra - it is an extremely versatile platform that performs well basically in any scenario and teamcomp, with the right guns.
I am saddened (though unsurprised) to see the increase in the amount of metamidion usage during the playoffs - it seems people were more open to experimentation during the season but during the final stretch reverted to the "safe" and proven metamidion.
Is it that, or is it just the teams that used metamidions during the regular season the ones that made it further in the playoffs?
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Is it that, or is it just the teams that used metamidions during the regular season the ones that made it further in the playoffs?
Hmm, I dunno!
I thought up more interesting win/loss ratios though (because face it generally speaking the more it is picked the more often it will tend towards 50%).
Lets maybe get the data on the most dangerous "upset" ships?
Basically for every loss, we give the winning team's ships points equal to the amount of wins the loser had (in total, during the season).
For example if Team A had 30 wins and 2 losses, but both their losses were to double squid teams, squids would have 120 (2 ships each time, 2 wins, vs a 30 win team) points.
So for example our champions and runners up have lots of wins each, but I'm curious as to the ship comps of the ships that beat them.
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I want to see which ships are the meta crushers. Which ones beat metamidions, and which just generally beat pyras consistently.
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I want to see which ships are the meta crushers. Which ones beat metamidions, and which just generally beat pyras consistently.
Twould be neat, but I bet you (I think I already owe you money...double or nothing!) that the majority of metamidion crushers are ... more metamidions.
Yea...