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Title: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: RomanKar on July 12, 2014, 07:14:19 pm
Hope that gets some attention.  I think we, the community, should agree to not use the term noob anymore.  It is derogatory, and no one likes being considered one. 

I think we should agree to use some other term.  I for one nominate Greenhorn.  We can make it a term of respect for who they are, but also that they are already part of OUR community, and we will not degrade them with malicious terms from OTHER games.  This game is unique.  We should use some more unique language.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: Sammy B. T. on July 12, 2014, 07:28:25 pm
Powder monkey, regardless of class is always fun.
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: RomanKar on July 12, 2014, 07:50:07 pm
Powder monkey, regardless of class is always fun.

Agreed
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: Captain Smollett on July 12, 2014, 07:52:25 pm
Thirded
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: Piemanlives on July 12, 2014, 08:15:05 pm
Powder Monkeys indeed.
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: AbbyTheRat on July 12, 2014, 08:46:29 pm
I also use Greenhorn and newbie, it's just annoying that noob which spinned off newbie became such a bad slur.
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: SirNotlag on July 12, 2014, 09:21:11 pm
okay I will start calling new plays "powder monkeys" instead of my current naming of "YOU!" "idjit" "useless" and "Sally"
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: Squidslinger Gilder on July 12, 2014, 09:31:14 pm
(http://funnystack.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Funny-Noob-171.jpg)
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: -Muse- Grimick on July 12, 2014, 10:27:13 pm
I concur! Anything with a negative connotation should be out. (even newbie) if it ends with "ie" it feels negative and condescending.

I like greenhorn.

I like powder monkey even more. Let's popularize that.
I think I am going to incorporate that into my clan page to start the trend.
We set on Powder Monkey?
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: Kestril on July 13, 2014, 12:43:17 am
I never thought newbie was offensive. Isn't there a distinct difference between "newbie" and "noob"?

Or, maybe my internet slur vocabulary dictionary is outdated.

I call 'em "1's" (referring to their rank) usually instead of noob.

Of course, that doesn't work when Geormr decides to engineer.  :P
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: SirNotlag on July 13, 2014, 12:58:00 am
no I dont think newbie is offensive newbie just refers to someone who is new "noob" on the other hand is just kinda calling them sucky.
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: shaelyn on July 13, 2014, 04:24:14 pm
I never thought newbie or noob as derogatory either, in and of itself.  it's moreso the way it's used.  if someone says with a particular tone of voice that screams frustration "you're such a noob," no, that isn't going to feel good.  that's a particular context, though.

I don't see fault in using Powder Monkey instead, but I do see that, as the term becomes more regularly used, it'll essentially be used the same way noob or newbie is now.  someone screaming in frustration "you're such a powder monkey" isn't going to feel any less derogatory.
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: Echoez on July 14, 2014, 01:48:25 am
I'll quote the Soldier from TF2, all newbie engineers should be called 'Grease Monkeys' now.
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: Andika on July 14, 2014, 08:27:33 am
I don't get it. Why don't we call new players 'new players'?   :D
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: pandatopia on July 14, 2014, 10:52:17 am
Yea but now the names are too long =(

We need a good one sylable sylabal sylabable...whatever word.
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: GreyTea on July 14, 2014, 11:27:27 am
Chick


The name of a bird that has not quite left the nest yet and is still learning to fly and is Somthing new to the sky.
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: pandatopia on July 14, 2014, 11:36:14 am
Chick


The name of a bird that has not quite left the nest yet and is still learning to fly and is Somthing new to the sky.

It has the added benefit of making it sound like your ship is party central.

"My ship's full of chicks!"

"A few chicks looking for experienced members to show them the ropes!"
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: Andika on July 14, 2014, 12:17:02 pm
Fourteen chicks here need an engineer. (omg no more empty lobbies!)
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: HamsterIV on July 14, 2014, 12:44:09 pm
I have put enough vehemence and disgust into the the phrase "powder monkey" that it might be better if I just called them noobs again. If we do go forward with "powder monkey" and "grease monkey" to describe new gunners and engineers respectively, what do we call new pilots? Especially those who mid-game-join ships which already have a pilot.
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: Queso on July 14, 2014, 12:46:25 pm
what do we call new pilots? Especially those who mid-game-join ships which already have a pilot.

Helm Monkeys?
Helmonkeys?
...
Hell Monkeys!
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: vyew on July 15, 2014, 09:24:07 am
Rookie (thx NS2)
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: DJ Tipz N Trix on July 16, 2014, 12:14:39 am
Chick


The name of a bird that has not quite left the nest yet and is still learning to fly and is Somthing new to the sky.
but chickens don't fly very well even as adults.
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: GreyTea on July 16, 2014, 03:59:14 am
Chick


The name of a bird that has not quite left the nest yet and is still learning to fly and is Somthing new to the sky.
but chickens don't fly very well even as adults.

I did not say chickens haha :)

Even a young bird of pray like the eagle are called chicks and they fly extremely well.
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: DJ Tipz N Trix on July 16, 2014, 05:09:33 am
Somehow, this whole thing reminds me of Gunbound...the first ranks in that game have a chick icon.
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: GreyTea on July 16, 2014, 05:38:19 am
From this

(http://funnyasduck.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/funny-chick-nugget-chicken-pic-600x456.jpg)



To this

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRI5WkEDr_Hv3SYGxHvf6foG6cpweKTMs_gcO4fNxvTrjV9ZmC09A)

Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: Squidslinger Gilder on July 19, 2014, 07:47:09 am
No matter what class you are, if you're a level 1, you're a powder monkey. Heck, you can even extend that rating up to level 10 but that is situational. Seen some real trolls and powder monkey behavior all the way up to 10. Tonight it was a level 5 and 7. One complained at the munker for her mobby captain charging into the allied minefield. Like I could be there holding his hand as he flew a bad ship into mines that were there to protect him. The other started a crusade after powder monkeys were block listed for mid joining as gunners and being unresponsive + getting boats killed. He took offense to that and trolled the lobby for about an hour one way or another.

Ahh...Powder Monkeys...they come in all shapes, sizes, levels, and breed like viagra injected rabbits :D.

Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: Niels Juel on September 09, 2014, 05:27:11 am
I for one like to designate new players FNG's
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: HamsterIV on September 09, 2014, 01:28:30 pm
Since noobs/Powder monkeys/FNG's are not going to read this thread before they inflict their presence upon us, the slang we use is mostly for communicating between experienced players. To that end we should make the slang we use the most precise for explaining our situation to the other captains.

I propose different terms for players who do not follow orders, players who join as the wrong class, players who do both, and players that are just new but with the correct equipment and attitude. The effectiveness of a ship will vary depending on what sort of noob jumps on board.

Having a new player who listens will mean the ship will be less effective for a minute or two while they are given a brief run down of what  to do. Getting the wrong class means the ship can't repair damage at the same rate and should not take the brunt of the enemy's attack. Getting a player who doesn't listen means the ship might as well surrender unless the player can be convinced to leave.
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: sparklerfish on September 09, 2014, 02:48:47 pm
It probably sounds condescending (though I don't mean it that way), but I sometimes call new players who listen and learn "ducklings", cuz I feel like a mother duck taking them under my wing.  No relation to [Duck]s.
Title: Re: No Noob is Good Noob
Post by: Battle Toads on September 09, 2014, 06:40:23 pm
I thought that the term "novice" exists for a reason, as essentially anyone who is new or recently purchased the game and is unfamiliar with the mechanics. Also since when was the term "noob" offensive to anyone. It sucks not being good at most games mainly because the selling point of a game is what happens when you do well, rather than what happens when you don't know what to do, but I haven't experienced anyone saying the bad part of not being good at a game, was people saying you are not good at a game.