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Title: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on March 20, 2014, 12:56:25 pm

Similar to the Flotsam Dynasty Campaign (https://gunsoficarus.com/community/forum/index.php/topic,2141.0.html) and Cogs, we posted Tipping here for the Sky League Tournament.

For each match, we predicted the winner and the score. One point was be awarded for correctly guessing the winner of a match (regardless of who the loser was), plus 0.1 points for the correct score (if both winner and loser were correct).

The winner (N-Sunderland) was awarded a costume of their choice from the store.

Tipping ran on a week-by-week basis.

Ending Standings

N-Sunderland	-	47.9
Alistair MacBain	-	42.3
Allien'	-	40.9
redria	-	37.6
Sammy B. T.	-	37.3
Mr. Ace Rimmer	-	35.3
Thomas	-	34.4
Captain Smollett	-	19.3
Levi Mann	-	6.0
Mattisamo	-	4.1

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History:
March 22, 2014:
Group A:

-Match 1:	Zill's Merry Men	def	Fancy Teamkillers	on	Paritan Rumble	5-4
-Match 2:	Serra's Sentinals	forfeit to	Holy Celestium	on	Duel at Dawn	0-0
-Match 3:	Holy Celestium	def	Zill's Merry Men	on	Northern Fjords	5-0
-Match 4:	Serra's Sentinals	forfeit to	Fancy Teamkillers	on	Canyon Ambush	0-0
-Match 5:	Fancy Teamkillers	def	Zill's Merry Men	on	Battle on the Dunes	5-0

Group B:

-Match 1:	Sky Invading Rhinos	def	Sacrilege	on	Duel at Dawn	5-2
-Match 2:	Crimson Sky Riders	def	Overwatch	on	Battle on the Dunes	5-4
-Match 3:	Crimson Sky Riders	def	Sky Invading Rhinos	on	Paritan Rumble	5-3
-Match 4:	Overwatch	def	Sacrilege	on	Canyon Ambush	5-3
-Match 5:	Overwatch	def	Sky Invading Rhinos	on	Northern Fjords	5-1

March 29, 2014:
Group C:

-Match 1:	Glowwater Thralls	def	The Art of Warfare	on	Northern Fjords	5-0
-Match 2:	The IRIS Fleet	def	The Clamour	on	Canyon Ambush	5-3
-Match 3:	Glowwater Thralls	def	The IRIS Fleet	on	Duel at Dawn	5-0
-Match 4:	The Clamour	def	The Art of Warfare	on	Battle on the Dunes	5-4
-Match 5:	The Clamour	def	The IRIS Fleet	on	Paritan Rumble	5-4

Group D:

-Match 1:	---	def	---	on	Northern Fjords	0-0
-Match 2:	The Mandarins	def	---	on	Duel at Dawn	0-0
-Match 3:	The Mandarins	def	---	on	Canyon Ambush	0-0
-Match 4:	---	def	---	on	Battle on the Dunes	0-0
-Match 5:	---	def	---	on	Paritan Rumble	0-0

Group D (Revised):

-Match 1:	Museosaurs	def	Mothers against Clockwork	on	Northern Fjords	5-0
-Match 2:	The Mandarins	def	Museosaurs	on	Duel at Dawn	5-0
-Match 3:	Museosaurs	def	Mothers against Clockwork	on	Canyon Ambush	5-0

Group E:

-Match 1:	Mad Hatters	def	The Cupcake Bandits	on	Canyon Ambush	5-0
-Match 2:	Black Flight Squadron	def	VOLWe	on	Duel at Dawn	5-1
-Match 3:	The Gents	def	Mad Hatters	on	Paritan Rumble	5-2
-Match 4:	The Gents	def	Black Flight Squadron	on	Northern Fjords/Duel at Dawn	4-3
-Match 5:	The Cupcake Bandits	def	VOLWe	on	Battle on the Dunes	5-4
-Match 6:	Mad Hatters	def	The Cupcake Bandits	on	Canyon Ambush	5-0
-Match 7:	Mad Hatters	def	Black Flight Squadron	on	Duel at Dawn	5-4

April 05, 2014:
Match 1:

-Game 1:	Overwatch	def	Fancy Teamkillers	on	Northern Fjords	5-2
-Game 2:	Overwatch	def	Fancy Teamkillers	on	Canyon Ambush	5-1
-Game 3:	---	def	---	on	Battle on the Dunes	0-0

Match 2:

-Game 1:	The Clamour	def	Museosaurs	on	Duel at Dawn	5-1
-Game 2:	Museosaurs	def	The Clamour	on	Canyon Ambush	5-2
-Game 3:	The Clamour	def	Museosaurs	on	Battle on the Dunes	5-2

April 12, 2014:
Match 1:

-Game 1:	The Gents	def	Overwatch	on	Duel at Dawn	5-4
-Game 2:	Overwatch	def	The Gents	on	Northern Fjords	5-4
-Game 3:	Overwatch	def	The Gents	on	Canyon Ambush	3-2

Match 2:

-Game 1:	The Mandarins	def	Glowwater Thralls	on	Paritan Rumble	5-0
-Game 2:	The Mandarins	def	Glowwater Thralls	on	Battle on the Dunes	5-4
-Game 3:	---	def	---	on	Northern Fjords	0-0

Match 3:

-Game 1:	Crimson Sky Riders	def	Holy Celestium	on	Paritan Rumble	5-1
-Game 2:	Crimson Sky Riders	def	Holy Celestium	on	Canyon Ambush	5-0
-Game 3:	---	def	---	on	Duel at Dawn	0-0

Match 4:

-Game 1:	Mad Hatters	def	The Clamour	on	Duel at Dawn	5-4
-Game 2:	Mad Hatters	def	The Clamour	on	Northern Fjords	5-0
-Game 3:	---	def	---	on	Paritan Rumble	0-0

April 19, 2014:
Match 1:

-Game 1:	The Mandarins	def	Overwatch	on	Northern Fjords	5-0
-Game 2:	Overwatch	def	The Mandarins	on	Duel at Dawn	5-4
-Game 3:	The Mandarins	def	Overwatch	on	Paritan Rumble	5-2

Match 2:

-Game 1:	Crimson Sky Riders	def	Mad Hatters	on	Northern Fjords	5-4
-Game 2:	Crimson Sky Riders	def	Mad Hatters	on	Canyon Ambush	5-1
-Game 3:	---	def	---	on	Paritan Rumble	0-0

April 26, 2014:
Finals:

-Game 1:	The Mandarins	def	Crimson Sky Riders	on	Northern Fjords	5-0
-Game 2:	The Mandarins	def	Crimson Sky Riders	on	Paritan Rumble	5-2
-Game 3:	The Mandarins	def	Crimson Sky Riders	on	Canyon ambush	5-2
-Game 4:	---	def	---	on	---	0-0
-Game 5:	---	def	---	on	---	0-0

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Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on March 20, 2014, 01:11:20 pm

Assuming no one minds me posting mine first...

A1: Merry Men def. Fancy Teamkillers 5-2
A2: Holy Celestium def. Serra's Sentinals 5-4
A3: Merry Men def. Holy Celestium 5-1
A4: Fancy Teamkillers def. Serra's Sentinals 5-1
A5: Fancy Teamkillers def. Holy Celestium 5-2

B1: Sky Invading Rhinos def. Sacrilege 3-2
B2: Overwatch def. Crimson Sky Riders 5-4
B3: Overwatch def. Sky Invading Rhinos 5-2
B4: Crimson Sky Riders def. Sacrilege 5-1
B5: Crimson Sky Riders def. Sky Invading Rhinos 5-1

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Sammy B. T. on March 20, 2014, 01:48:00 pm

Yes, I love me some baseless speculating! Let me get to it!



The maps are here btw
http://pastebin.com/v4cm4NAr

The 3 match is the 1 seed for the bracket and the 5 match is the 2 seed.

A1 Paritan Rumble
A2 Duel at Dawn
A3 Northern Fjords
A4 Canyon Ambush
A5 Battle on the Dunes

A1 ZMM beats FTK 5-3
A2 Holy beats SSnt 5-2
A3 ZMM beats Holy 5-2
A4 FTK beats SSnt 5-0
A5 FTK beats Holy 5-4

You have to give props to the Merry Men, they are one of the oldest teams in this scene and have conistently made a name for themselves as skilled players. Also as I've never seen the Sentinel bros and see they appear low level I have them beaten out quite handily but that is quite speculative. Both Holy and FTK are a bit of an unknown for me but I know their leaders are experienced players and I am sure their teams reflect that.

Onto bracket B

B1 Duel at Dawn
B2 Battle on the Dunes
B3 Paritan Rumble
B4 Canyon Ambush
B5 Northern Fjords

B1 SAC beats SIR 5-4
B2 CSR beats OVW 5-3
B3 CSR beats SAC 5-3
B4 OVW beats SIR 5-3
B5 OVW beats SAC 5-3

This is probably the most balanced of the brackets and therefore could really go anyway. While SIR is a very skilled clan I've just not seen them as a full clan terribly often recently in the competitive scene. However they boast very skilled players and of late they've been doing due dilegence of practicing. However Tropo has really been buckling down on SAC and getting them extremely competitive and with their match being on Duel at Dawn, it will be scrappy and messy, something that probably favors SAC.

On the other side we have OVW facing off against CSR. These are two powerhouses. OVW has developed an impressive aggressive disable play style that helps break coordinated teams. They're unconcvential but effective, showing that Pyras and Squid definitely still have a strong presence in competitive. They can also bring a Galleon with some effectiveness. However I have to give the edge to CSR because those guys are just crazy talented. They specialize in countering their opponents builds, out brawling or out sniping depending on the map and opponent.

I have to then give the next win to CSR over SAC. Paritan Rumble will be Lueosi's playground and while it will be an awesome game, CSR will probably come out on top

I have OVW beating SIR for the same reasons I listed for the SAC/SIR game, SIR may be out of practice which is a dang shame that this had to be bumped to single elimination.

Finally OVW vs SAC on Northern Fjords. While both are great teams, I think OVW will have an advantage with the spacious area of Northern Fjords that will remove some of the scrappyiness factor of SAC.



Regardless, the first week will be awesome!

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Mr. Ace Rimmer on March 20, 2014, 01:50:10 pm

Edit: Gonna have a go at explaining my speculation, like Sammy did with his bets.

A1: Merry Men def. Fancy Teamkillers 5-0
A2: Holy Celestium def. Serra's Sentinals 5-2
A3: Merry Men def. Holy Celestium 5-3
A4: Fancy Teamkillers def. Serra's Sentinals 5-4
A5: Holy Celestium def. Fancy Teamkillers 5-4

A1. Teamkillers to me are a complete unknown and as with Sammy, I rate the MerryMen as one of the best in the business. (They were excellent opponents and great sportsmen in the Flotsam Dynasty campaign.) I know on the day, things can and do happen. Hell, Overwatch surprised everyone in the Flotsam so maybe TK will here but, I'm calling this as a MM shutout.

A2. This is going to be interesting and could go either way but I'm giving this one to Celestium. The sentinels will prove tough opponents but Thomas knows the game very well and I am sure has imparted his wisdom to his team.

A3. For all I've hedged my bets on above, I['m giving this to Zill's team for the reason listed in A1. Unlike A1 though, I don't see this as being a shutout.

A4/A5. If these do turn out to be the matches, they will be very close. I flipped a coin to call who would win and who would lose. All told, this will be a good group to watch just to see how the newer clans work out.

On to group B. In soccer (football for us Euros) this would be referred to as a group of death. Any team on their day at their best could win this.

B1: Sky Invading Rhinos def. Sacrilege 3-2 (After 10 minutes overtime)
B2: Overwatch def. Crimson Sky Riders 5-4
B3: Overwatch def. Sky Invading Rhinos 5-3
B4: Crimson Sky Riders def. Sacrilege 5-3
B5: Crimson Sky Riders def. Sky Invading Rhinos 5-4

B1. I see this being a sniping match showing off some of the more interesting facets of the tactics available in this game. Although I think it will be sniping that doesn't mean I think it will be boring. SIR may not have been around much recently but it does contain some amazing players. SAC are consistent and have some of the best in the game playing for them. It's going to be tight, expect fireworks.

B2. First things first, CSR are an amazing group and have shown consistently that they know how  to fly, they know how to counter but most of all that they know how to adapt. This will be a very exciting match but I have to give it to my guys and gals but only just mind you.

B3. Should Sir beat SAC and OVW beat CSR then match three should be a classic. Both teams will know exactly what is on the line and will fight tooth and nail to get through as the number one seed. Again, this will be a close one but I think OVW will take this, especially given recent experience gained vs the Ducks. Overwatch are on the rise again and if they bring their A game they are going to be tough to beat.

B4. I've given this to CSR based on track record. SAC sure has hell wont go down without a fight but I don't think they'll be able to beat CSR for the reasons mentioned above.

B5. Tough call this one but again, CSR are an incredibly strong team. I would be highly surprised if they did not make it through this first stage to the Tournament proper.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Alistair MacBain on March 20, 2014, 02:02:56 pm

A1 ZMM beats FTK 5-3
A2 Holy beats SSnt 5-1
A3 ZMM beats Holy 5-2
A4 FTK beats SSnt 5-0
A5 FTK beats Holy 5-4

B1 SIR beats SAC 5-3
B2 CSR beats OVW 5-4
B3 CSR beats SIR 5-3
B4 OVW beats SAC 5-2
B5 OVW beats SIR 5-4

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Thomas on March 20, 2014, 02:09:33 pm

xD I feel a little hurt at these predictions.

A1: MM Def. FT 5-3
A2: Holy Def. SS 5-0
A3: Holy Def. MM 5-4
A4: FT Def SS 5-0
A5: MM Def. FT 5-3

B1: Sky Invading Rhinos def. Sacrilege 5-4
B2: Overwatch def. Crimson Sky Riders 5-3
B3: Sky Invading Rhinos def. Overwatch 5-4
B4: Crimson Sky Riders def. Sacrilege 5-3
B5: Overwatch def. Crimson Sky Riders 5-4

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on March 20, 2014, 03:15:29 pm

Quote from: Thomas on March 20, 2014, 02:09:33 pm

xD I feel a little hurt at these predictions.

<3

I have to give Merry Men an edge in most matchups, and as a Ryder, I have to give Lochnagar's FTK a leg up based on association with CsR. I don't think I've seen either Holy (full team in competition) or the Sentinals (at all) before, so benefit of the doubt goes to the teams I know better. :)

Group B is a tough one. I have B1 going into overtime finish because... Well, I'm not sure. And Duel at Dawn makes it even less likely. But oh well.
OVW and CsR... I don't see CsR missing out on the rest of the tournament, so one of the B seeds had to go to them somehow. Battle on the Dunes will be an interesting battle. I am interested to see how it turns out. But I don't want to have to beat both SIR and SAC to get through the group stage, so I'm giving the win to OVW. ^.^

Thomas, I'm excited to see you guys in competition. I hope you make it through so I get to fight against you too. >:)

-edit-
FYI for anyone newer, you don't have to explain your choices. Just seems fun if you are interested. ^.^

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Alistair MacBain on March 20, 2014, 03:35:21 pm

Totally agree with redrias Explanation for Bracket A.

Bracket B however is kinda hard.
Havent seen SIR or SAC to active in the recent tournaments so i kinda have to guess a bid more than i would want.
I give it to SIR cause i think they are generally more practised atm.
CsRy vs OVW is a hard one.
Havent seen OVW to often atm but i still think they are practised enough to give CsRy a hard challenge.
I still tend to the ryders for the win.
On paritan i think ryders will have a harder time but i still think they get the win.
OVW has the edge over SAC i think. They wont get a clean sweap imo but they get a relative decisive win.
OVW vs SIR is a similiar story but SIR will make it harder for OVW i think.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: N-Sunderland on March 20, 2014, 05:06:58 pm

A1: MM def. Teamkillers 5-4
A2: Holy def. Serra's Sentinels 5-0
A3: MM def. Holy 5-2
A4: Teamkillers def. Serra's Sentinels 5-0
A5: Teamkillers def. Holy 5-1

MM's experience will get them the first seed, but Fancy Teamkillers seem like they have a lot of potential, and will give them a run for their money. I expect Holy Celestium to be pretty solid, but it won't quite be enough to progress. When they face Fancy Teamkillers on Dunes we might see a brawl build vs. a sniper build (just a guess), which won't end very well for them. And Serra's Sentinels probably won't pull off anything spectacular, since they appear to be pretty green and are facing some strong opponents.


B1: SIR def. SAC 5-2
B2: CSR def. OVW 5-0
B3: CSR def. SIR 5-2
B4: OVW def. SAC 5-0
B5: OVW def. SIR 5-3

SIR may be a bit rusty, but Wundsalz and Phelan are great with close range Pyras and should be able to pull it off on Duel at Dawn against SAC. Next, I think that CSR will take double Mobulas against Overwatch. I think that OVW is one of the best teams out there, but it's almost impossible to counter that double Mob on Dunes. After that, CSR should be able to overcome SIR, with one point in their favour being that they've competed a whole lot more lately. OVW can likely beat SAC (SAC is good, but I rate OVW very highly when they're at their best), and they will probably also take down SIR (could be a close match though).

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Skrimskraw on March 21, 2014, 07:21:37 am

first mentioned team will have their score posted first.
example: Fancy Teamkillers vs Merry Men - 2-5 means mm wins with 5 kills over temkillers 2.

Bracket A:
-Match 1: Fancy Teamkillers vs Merry Men - 2-5
-Match 2: Holy Celestium vs Serra's Sentinals - 5-0
-Match 3: MM vs holy - 5-2
-Match 4: teamkillers vs serras sentinels - 5-0
-Match 5: holy vs teamkillers - 5-3

match 1:
Merry men is a powerhouse, they have grade A teamwork. They know that patience is a virtue and that mistakes comes from being too bold. They have a wide variety of setups that will annoy and dominate other teams, so edge to MM in this game
The fancy teamkillers I know nothing of other than its Rydr who have put together a second team. This have the potential to have the newcomer potential, but in this match experience means more than the general skill of each individual of the team. If teamkillers can work out grade A teamwork before the matches, they might have a chance.

match 2:
Holy celestium is led by Thomas a higher experienced pilot and leader, they have the newcomer potential, but they also need to work on communication. From what I have seen ingame so far I know that they have been working with advanced flanking maneuvres and focus fire, but I have also seen severe miscommunications that have led to bad engagements. They have been practicing more and more this month and I believe they have the edge since they have the greater experience.
serras sentinels I know nothing about, so saying something that I know nothing off would be a waste of time, they can only surprize me and I would love to be proven wrong and see a newcomer potential.

match 3:
 mm wins witht heir superior experience. What I have seen from Zill and Socks these past months I have to give them the win of the entire bracket. They have really moved from less activity to becoming active and really awesome.

match 4:
Teamkillers win due to their skill level being higher. (atleast I think so)

match 5:
Holy wins and here is why. Teamkillers consists of good good players, but they are also a very new team. I have only seen the pilots play with the pilots from CsRy and I believe that Holy has the bigger advantage in that they have had longer time to prepare. Mark my words though it will be a close game as it is on dunes.

Bracket B:
-Match 1: Sky Invading Rhinos vs Sacrilege- 2-5
-Match 2: Crimson Sky Riders vs Overwatch- 3-5
-Match 3: overwatch vs sacrilege- 5-2
-Match 4: rhinos vs CsRy- 2-5
-Match 5: sac vs CsRy- 3-5

match 1:
Sacrilege have been practicing harder and harder, they have started to become a competitive entity and about a month from now they will be one of the teams you will fear having being put into your bracket. Rhinos have been doing collaboration teams these past weeks, although wundzals is a great leader and crew controller I fear that SAC's practice with their teammembers will prevail, and thus they will take the match.

match 2:
Overwatch will take this one. Overwatch have been playing for a long long time and they are pros. So far I have seen CsRy do some amazing bait and switch work, however this is battle on the dunes and its going to be hard for them to do advanced flanking and tricking overwatch.
Hillerton of CsRy also have a severe disadvantage at this point, lueosi have been missing for a few days and we are all a bit worried if something happened to him. But this is the truth though and Hillerton have had to take decisions based on the team and train up a new pilot to play alongside him.

match 3:
paritan rumble! overwatch have shown their superior strategies on this map several times. They are insanely mobile and will break into any sniping or attempt to play a medium range fight. SAC however have very skilled gunners who will be their best bet at winning this match. The key will be to stay mobile and get the first engagement in the lower parts of the map, however I still believe that overwatch have the more experienced in this map.

match 4:
canyon ambush, this is hillertons playground. although Lueosi is missing this is where CsRy is at home where they can flank and trick the enemy team. Rhinos will have some serious challenges and they have to position themselves perfectly if they want to avoid being pincher maneuvred. also being agressive vs CsRy usually ahve the unfortunate outcome that the attacking team gets focus fired down very quickly.

match 5:
fjords is the thralls favorite map, there are so many possibilities of flanking through clouds and so on. however to talk about the 2 teams meeting here! CsRy knows that controlling the archway is key to deciding where the enemy have to go. this might turn into a trenchwar medium range map and this is where the double pyras that CsRy is superior to high hanging junkers or galleons, the ability to switch from sniping to brawl will come in handy. SAC will probaly run their galleon + pyramidion, however the problem with running galleon is the low trenches in the fjords, so breaking enemy balloon with lumberjack more than often results in the enemy just ducking into cover.


this is a possible way that this could end up going, I'm looking forward to seeing which one of us have the best guess on this.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Tropo on March 21, 2014, 07:23:47 am

I BET SACRILEGE WILL HAVE A EPIC AND FUN TIME

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Skrimskraw on March 21, 2014, 07:27:04 am

redria have you talked to muse about possible tipping prizes?

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on March 21, 2014, 08:15:59 am

Quote from: Skrimskraw on March 21, 2014, 07:27:04 am

redria have you talked to muse about possible tipping prizes?

Nope! I just knew there was a tipping thread for the Flotsam Dynasty, and now that I'm active on the forums I wanted to participate in one. But there wasn't one. So I made it.  8)

But is that a thing? Should I find someone from Muse to ask about it?

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Skrimskraw on March 21, 2014, 09:35:05 am

Quote from: redria on March 21, 2014, 08:15:59 am

Quote from: Skrimskraw on March 21, 2014, 07:27:04 am

redria have you talked to muse about possible tipping prizes?

Nope! I just knew there was a tipping thread for the Flotsam Dynasty, and now that I'm active on the forums I wanted to participate in one. But there wasn't one. So I made it.  8)

But is that a thing? Should I find someone from Muse to ask about it?

Im pretty sure they can give you some costume keys for the winner, theya re pretty large with this.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: GreyTea on March 21, 2014, 09:44:36 am

Il raise the question, and get back to you redria :)

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on March 21, 2014, 09:49:10 am

Quote from: Grey T on March 21, 2014, 09:44:36 am

Il raise the question, and get back to you redria :)

Awesome. Get your predictions in now guys and gals! If muse gets a prize or two for this, you want to be on top of this from day 1. :)

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: GreyTea on March 21, 2014, 10:54:32 am

In terms of prizes the winner can receive costumes from the store of there choice :),

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Allien' on March 21, 2014, 04:16:36 pm

This is nice. I'm fairly new so i never saw this :P
There's a couple points that Skrim said and people should have in consideration when "tipping":
- Fancy Teamkillers is in fact Crimson's Sky Ryder second team, and they train a lot as well;
- Unfortunately our top pilot, Lueosi, is missing. We haven't had contact from him for about a week and we're worried :(
But we're still confident and we started practicing with a new pilot :)
 
Well, considering various things i also made my guess:

Bracket A:
-Match 1: Fancy Teamkillers vs Merry Men = 5-4 on Paritan Rumble
-Match 2: Holy Celestium vs Serra's Sentinals= 5-0 on Duel at Dawn
-Match 3: Fancy Teamkillers vs Holy Celestium = 5-4 on Northern Fjords
-Match 4: Merry Men vs Serra's Sentinals = 5-0 on Canyon Ambush
-Match 5: Holy Celestium vs Merry Men = 2-5 on Battle on the Dunes

Bracket B:
-Match 1: Sky Invading Rhinos vs Sacrilege = 5-2 on Duel At Dawn
-Match 2: Crimson Sky Riders vs Overwatch = 5-4 on Battle on the Dunes
-Match 3: Sky Invading Rhinos VS Crimson Sky Riders= 3-5 on Paritan Rumble
-Match 4: Sacrilege VS Overwatch = 2-5 on Canyon Ambush
-Match 5: Sky Invading Rhinos vs Overwatch = 4-5 on Northern Fjords

Bracket A: I fell a bit sad by the fact i'm not really giving credit to Holy, they're in fact training hard and they actually have potencial

  Match 1:  Merry man is very good, its going to be hard for FTK, but i'm sure they'll do their best
  Match 2: Holy will come out on top. I don't know Sierra's and actually never saw or played  with a member.
  Match 3: Its not like i'm going to say Holy is going to win against my friends :P But i still feel like giving credit to them;
  Match 4: For reasons previously mentioned
  Match 5: Thought one. I do believe Merry Men has the experience required, so they'll will get this one;

Bracket B: Thought one. I love the clans here and i would hate to see them out of the League  <3

  Match 1: Both teams are very good at brawling, but in this one i'll give the upper hand to SIR.
  Match 2: OVW is practicing a lot lately, but so are we :P  Although our top pilot is missing, we'll definitely put a fight and come out on top. I do believe so:) 
  Match 3: SIR... Though job that one will be.
  Match 4: Need to support OVW on that one. <3
  Match 5: I wouldn't like to see SIR out of this, but i have to take a guess :(

Have fun everyone o/

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Hunter. on March 21, 2014, 10:07:00 pm

This thread has got me hyped out of my mind for tomorrows games :O Group B is going to be so damn close!

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Captain Smollett on March 22, 2014, 03:45:43 pm

A1 FTK beats MM 5-4
A2 Holy Beats SSnt 5-2
A3 FTK beats Holy 5-2
A4 MM Beats SSnt 5-0
A5 MM Beats Holy 5-4

B1 SIR beats SAC 5-3
B2 CSR beats OVW 5-4
B3 CSR beats SIR 5-2
B4 OVW beats SAC 5-3
B5 OVW beats SIR 5-3

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Sammy B. T. on March 22, 2014, 03:46:58 pm

Who wins MM vs Holy Smollet? Also for your B5 I think you meant to say that SIR beats OVW

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Levi mann on March 22, 2014, 03:53:48 pm

A1: MM beats FTK 5-2
A2: Holy beats SS 5-3
A3: FTK beats SS 5-3
A4: MM beat Holy 5-4
A5: Holy beats FTK 5-4

B1: SAC beats SIR 5-3
B2: Ovw beats CSR 5-4
B3: SIR beats CSR 5-2
B4: Ovw beats SAC 5-4
B5: SAC beats SIR 5-2

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Thomas on March 23, 2014, 05:25:56 am

I felt like updating this from boredom. Since it's about 5 AM, you should probably double check my math. It's actually kind of interesting seeing how getting one early match wrong can make everything that follows wrong. I didn't add in a 0.1 if you got the score right, but picked the wrong winners.


Results:

A1: MM wins against FTK 5-4
A2: Holy wins against Serra 0-0
A3: Holy wins against MM 5-0
A4: FTK wins against Serra 0-0
A5: FTK wins against MM 5-0

B1: SIR wins against SAC 5-2
B2: CSR wins against OVW 5-4
B3: CSR wins against SIR 5-3
B4: OVW wins against SAC 5-3
B5: OVW wins against SIR 5-1


Points:
Redria - 4
Sammy B.T. - 4
Mr. Ace Rimmer - 4
Alistair MacBain - 8.2
Thomas - 5
N-Sunderland - 8.2
Skrimskraw - 3
Allien'- 6.3
Captain Smollett - 6.2
Levi Mann - 3



Comments:

Really interesting. Almost everyone bet the same way for Group A, and no one got it  completely correct. Although I came pretty darn close. Kinda. I did drop the ball quite hard for B though. There was actually a few people that it got all of B correct, and kudos to them, especially Alistair and Sunderland for getting some scores spot on, although Alien' got the most correct score predictions.

I do think Levi got some of his matches mixed up. It's supposed to be winners in match three, and losers (I don't want to call them that, but they did lose their first match) in match 4. According to his predictions, he swapped 3 and 4. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and gave him a point for predicting correctly, even though it was in the wrong place, only to find that in the next group he still had them flipped, but would have been correct. So flip 'em or don't flip 'em, he still got that point.

Really looking forward to next weekend, I'll have to a better job of guessing. xD

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Alistair MacBain on March 23, 2014, 06:42:38 am

Got the same result Thomas. Seems time doesnt affect you to hard in your math ^^.

Redria - 4
Sammy B. T. - 4
Mr. Ace Rimmer - 4
Alistair MacBain - 8.2
Thomas - 5
N-Sunderland - 8.2
Skrimskraw - 3
Allien' - 6.3
Captain Smollet - 6.2
Levi Mann - 3



And yes its really interesting how a wrong match in the earlier matches affects the rest of the bracket.
I think Thomas was the only one with the correct winner of A3. Lets see how the future groups affect this scoring.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: N-Sunderland on March 23, 2014, 08:28:55 am

Back when we did the Flotsam tipping thread we made it so that getting the winner of a match correct was all you needed, so getting a match wrong early on didn't destroy your score. But I'm not going to complain about that seeing as tied for the lead anyways :P

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on March 23, 2014, 08:37:44 am

Close guys, but not quite. Let me share 2 posts from the Flotsam Dynasty, and if everyone disagrees, we can switch back.
N-Sunderland asking about whether you get a point for correctly guessing a winner, or only for guessing both winner and loser (https://gunsoficarus.com/community/forum/index.php/topic,2141.msg37316.html#msg37316)
Captain Smollet saying no double jeopardy: Points are awarded for guessing the winner (https://gunsoficarus.com/community/forum/index.php/topic,2141.msg37357.html#msg37357)
With this in mind, As long as your pick was the winner, the team they beat doesn't matter. I will have the OP updated with this note along with all the new fun stuff.

Bracket A:

-Match 1:	Zill's Merry Men	def	Fancy Teamkillers	on	Paritan Rumble	5-4
-Match 2:	Serra's Sentinals	forfeit to	Holy Celestium	on	Duel at Dawn	0-0
-Match 3:	Holy Celestium	def	Zill's Merry Men	on	Northern Fjords	5-0
-Match 4:	Serra's Sentinals	forfeit to	Fancy Teamkillers	on	Canyon Ambush	0-0
-Match 5:	Fancy Teamkillers	def	Zill's Merry Men	on	Battle on the Dunes	5-0

Bracket B:

-Match 1:	Sky Invading Rhinos	def	Sacrilege	on	Duel at Dawn	5-2
-Match 2:	Crimson Sky Riders	def	Overwatch	on	Battle on the Dunes	5-4
-Match 3:	Crimson Sky Riders	def	Sky Invading Rhinos	on	Paritan Rumble	5-3
-Match 4:	Overwatch	def	Sacrilege	on	Canyon Ambush	5-3
-Match 5:	Overwatch	def	Sky Invading Rhinos	on	Northern Fjords	5-1

Forfeit counts as a loss.

Current Standings
redria - 4
Sammy B. T. - 7
Mr. Ace Rimmer - 4
Alistair MacBain - 9.2
Thomas - 6
N-Sunderland - 9.2
Skrimskraw - 3
Allien' - 6.3
Captain Smollet - 6.2
Levi Mann - 3

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on March 23, 2014, 09:30:39 am

March 29, 2014:
Bracket C:

-Match 1:	Glowwater Thralls	vs	The Art of Warfare	on	Northern Fjords
-Match 2:	The IRIS Fleet	vs	The Clamour	on	Canyon Ambush
-Match 3:	Winner of Match 1	vs	Winner of Match 2	on	Duel at Dawn
-Match 4:	Loser of Match 1	vs	Loser of Match 2	on	Battle on the Dunes
-Match 5:	Loser of Match 3	vs	Winner of Match 4	on	Paritan Rumble

Bracket D:

-Match 1:	Phalanx Infamia	vs	Mothers Against Gaming	on	Northern Fjords
-Match 2:	The Mandarins	vs	Clockwork Cavalry	on	Duel at Dawn
-Match 3:	Winner of Match 1	vs	Winner of Match 2	on	Canyon Ambush
-Match 4:	Loser of Match 1	vs	Loser of Match 2	on	Battle on the Dunes
-Match 5:	Loser of Match 3	vs	Winner of Match 4	on	Paritan Rumble

Bracket E:

-Match 1:	Mad Hatters	vs	The Cupcake Bandits	on	Canyon Ambush
-Match 2:	VOLWe	vs	Black Flight Squadron	on	Duel at Dawn
-Match 3:	The Gents	vs	Winner of Match 1	on	Paritan Rumble
-Match 4:	Winner of Match 2	vs	Winner of Match 3	on	Northern Fjords
-Match 5:	Loser of Match 1	vs	Loser of Match 2	on	Battle on the Dunes
-Match 6:	Loser of Match 3	vs	Winner of Match 5	on	Canyon Ambush
-Match 7:	Loser of Match 4	vs	Winner of Match 6	on	Duel at Dawn

Current Standings

Alistair MacBain	-	9.2
N-Sunderland	-	9.2
Sammy B. T.	-	7
Allien'	-	6.3
Captain Smollet	-	6.2
Thomas	-	6
redria	-	4
Mr. Ace Rimmer	-	4
Skrimskraw	-	3
Levi Mann	-	3

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: N-Sunderland on March 23, 2014, 09:39:08 am

Hmm... Can we get a 0.1 point bonus if we correctly call a no-show? For example "Holy def. Serra (no-show)" would basically be the equivalent of predicting the score.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on March 23, 2014, 09:48:41 am

My triple post got sniped out by Sunderland. Aw.
If you predict a no-show/forfeit, your predicted score would be 0-0. Similar to how me and Ace predicted an overtime victory (dumb) by having our scores cap out at 3-2. Since the score would technically be 0-0, you would be given the 0.1 bonus. :) So yes, but do it by giving a score, not by guessing no show. Because as I heard it, SS was around, but only had 1 ship, so forfeited. If someone had guessed no-show, and I had confirmation that that was the case, I would (probably) not give the bonus (no-show =/= forfeit).  :P

Note for this round - There are a lot of new teams with no clan tag yet, and several clans with multiple teams. I made up tags as I went. Long story short, sorry Clamour.  :o

C1: GwTh def TAW 5-1
C2: Clam def IRIS 5-1
C3: GwTh def Clam 5-4
C4: IRIS def TAW 5-1
C5: Clam def IRIS 5-3

D1: xPIx def MAG 5-3
D2: Duck def CC 5-0
D3: Duck def xPIx 5-0
D4: CC def MAG 5-3
D5: xPIx def CC 5-3

E1: MadH def TCCB 5-0
E2: BFS def VOLW 5-1
E3: Gent def MadH 5-3
E4: Gent def BFS 5-3
E5: VOLW def TCCB 5-3
E6: MadH def VOLW 5-1
E7: MadH def BFS 5-4

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Mr. Ace Rimmer on March 23, 2014, 11:20:28 am

I shall use Redria's tags.. (sorry Clamour)

C1: GwTh def TAW 5-3
C2: Clam def IRIS 5-3
C3: GwTh def Clam 5-4
C4: IRIS def TAW 5-2
C5: Clam def IRIS 5-3

D1: xPIx def MAG 5-1
D2: Duck def CC 5-2
D3: Duck def xPIx 5-2
D4: CC def MAG 5-4
D5: xPIx def CC 5-4

E1: MadH def TCCB 5-0
E2: BFS def VOLW 5-0
E3: Gent def MadH 5-4
E4: Gent def BFS 5-0
E5: VOLW def TCCB 5-2
E6: MadH def VOLW 5-3
E7: BFS def MadH 5-2

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Sammy B. T. on March 23, 2014, 11:25:13 am

I would suggest Clmr for the Clamour but I need to verify with their leadership.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Alistair MacBain on March 23, 2014, 11:57:44 am

C1: GwTh def TAW 5-1
C2: Clam def IRIS 5-3
C3: GwTh def Clam 5-3
C4: IRIS def TAW 5-2
C5: Clam def IRIS 5-3

D1: MAG def xPIx - 5-4
D2: Duck def CC 5-1
D3: Duck def MAG 5-1
D4: CC def xPIx 5-4
D5: MAG def CC 5-4

E1: MadH def TCCB 5-1
E2: BFS def VOLW 5-2
E3: Gent def MadH 5-3
E4: Gent def BFS 5-2
E5: VOLW def TCCB 5-2
E6: MadH def VOLW 5-2
E7: BFS def MadH 5-3


Pretty much a total guessing for the newer teams.
The first two brackets had clear favorites for me and the teams in there are well known. You know their strengths and weaknesses.
A newcomer vs newcomer game is a total guess cause you barely know anything from them.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: N-Sunderland on March 23, 2014, 01:10:03 pm

C1: GwTh def. TAW 5-0
C2: Clamour def. IRIS 5-2
C3: GwTh def. Clamour 5-2
C4: IRIS def. TAW 5-3
C5: Clamour def. IRIS 5-3

D1: MAG def. xPIx 0-0
D2: Mandarins def. CC 5-0
D3: Mandarins def. MAG 5-0
D4: CC def. xPIx 0-0
D5: MAG def. CC 5-1

E1: Hatters def. TCCB 5-0
E2: BFS def. VOLW 5-3
E3: Gents def. Hatters 5-0
E4: Gents def. BFS 5-0
E5: VOLW def. TCCB 5-1
E6: Hatters def. VOLW 5-2
E7: BFS def. Hatters 5-4


Group C:

GwTh are really great at what they do, so I expect them to take this group fairly easily. If we see a Spire then a couple of kills could be landed on them. I haven't been all that impressed with what I've seen of IRIS or TAW, so I could see The Clamour taking the second seed despite being a recently formed team.

Group D:

The newcomers probably won't be causing any massive upsets or anything, and the rest is mostly guesswork. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a forfeit from one of the teams, and I'm putting my money on Phalanx for that.

Group E:

A bit tougher. Hatters have a solid Gents roster, so dealing with Cupcake Bandits shouldn't be an issue. BFS will likely also win their match, but they have some Russians as opposition, and we all know how tough those guys can get. Next up Gents will beat the Hatters because they're usually the better team, but also because Hatters have had to replace both their captains. I'm sure they have two fantastic replacements ready, but having lots of experience flying with your teammate is possibly the most important requirement for success in competitive GoIO. Next up Gents will beat BFS because mid/long-range>mines, especially on Fjords. Next up the VOLW will beat Cupcake Bandits... Because Russians I guess. I recognize at least one name on their team, which is more than I can say for their opponents. That won't be enough against Hatters though, who as I said have a bunch of great Gents on their team. Finally BFS can probably pull a victory out against Hatters, who once again have two captains who almost certainly haven't gotten as much time flying together as Brick and Gilder.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Thomas on March 23, 2014, 01:17:27 pm

Interestingly I was telling my team all week that Serra's Sentinels probably wouldn't show up. If only I put my money where my mouth was.

Although technically they did show, they just didn't have enough people..

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Thomas on March 24, 2014, 02:08:03 am

Group C

Match 1 - GwTh def. TAW 5-0
Match 2 - IRIS def. Clam 5-2
Match 3 - GwTh def. IRIS 5-2
Match 4 - Clam def. TAW 5-3
Match 5 - IRIS def. Clam 5-1

Reasoning: The Thralls pack a heavy punch and have a lot of experience under their belt. Clam and TAW don't have as much experience (I think) as IRIS.


Group D
Match 1 - Neither team shows 0-0
Match 2 - Mandarins def. Clock 0-0 (no show)
Match 3 - Mandarins win (no show)
Match 4 - Draw? 0-0 (no show)
Match 5 - Draw? 0-0 (no show)

Reasoning: Pretty sure the other three teams won't show, giving Mandarins nothing to do but arrive before watching the other streams in boredom.

Group E

Match 1 - Hatters def. Cupcakes 0-0 (no show)
Match 2 - BFS def. VOLWe 5-1
Match 3 - Gents def. Hatters 5-2
Match 4- Gents def. BFS 5-1
Match 5 - VOLWe def . Cupcakes 0-0 (no show)
Match 6 - Hatters def. VOLWe 5-0
Match 7 - BFS def. Hatters 5-3

Reasoning: I'm just tossing around that no show card a lot, although I hope I'm proven wrong. xD Overall I'm just going with the more experienced team. I'm fairly confident in all of these but the Match 7.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Skrimskraw on March 24, 2014, 07:06:39 am

Quote from: Thomas on March 24, 2014, 02:08:03 am

Group C

Group D
Match 1 - Neither team shows 0-0
Match 2 - Mandarins def. Clock 0-0 (no show)
Match 3 - Mandarins win (no show)
Match 4 - Draw? 0-0 (no show)
Match 5 - Draw? 0-0 (no show)

Reasoning: Pretty sure the other three teams won't show, giving Mandarins nothing to do but arrive before watching the other streams in boredom.

that would suck..

anyway for those interested in some insider knowledge of group B.

The first game is going to be very very interesting. TAW have slowly been moving from a casual team to a more organized and tactical team.
I have spent some time with Hunter from TAW and shown him how to play the diffrent maps, and also how valuable communcation and positioning is.
I can't wait to play this game.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Mr. Ace Rimmer on March 24, 2014, 02:18:59 pm

Ooh should be an interesting match to watch then Skrim :)

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Allien' on March 24, 2014, 02:27:15 pm

Dang! If I knew, I would have played in the lottery :P
Interesting how the group A played out :)

Congratulations to the winning teams and good luck to the upcoming matches. I will post my guessing later :)

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Hunter. on March 25, 2014, 06:21:17 pm

Quote from: Skrimskraw on March 24, 2014, 07:06:39 am

Quote from: Thomas on March 24, 2014, 02:08:03 am

Group C

Group D
Match 1 - Neither team shows 0-0
Match 2 - Mandarins def. Clock 0-0 (no show)
Match 3 - Mandarins win (no show)
Match 4 - Draw? 0-0 (no show)
Match 5 - Draw? 0-0 (no show)

Reasoning: Pretty sure the other three teams won't show, giving Mandarins nothing to do but arrive before watching the other streams in boredom.

that would suck..

anyway for those interested in some insider knowledge of group B.

The first game is going to be very very interesting. TAW have slowly been moving from a casual team to a more organized and tactical team.
I have spent some time with Hunter from TAW and shown him how to play the diffrent maps, and also how valuable communcation and positioning is.
I can't wait to play this game.

Looking forward to our game too ;)

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on March 27, 2014, 01:05:45 pm

I think I'm going to have to go through and re-count points. I'm pretty sure I should actually have 5 points (4 from A, 1 from B), and if I miscounted my own score then goodness knows what I missed on someone else's score.

Incidentally, I will be away from my computer most of the weekend until monday night, so odds are I won't be able to update anything until then at the earliest. So, you know, forewarning. :P

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Alistair MacBain on March 27, 2014, 04:27:19 pm

Just mixed it up for you and Sammy.
At least thats what my calculation says. Did it again with the correct winner rule.
Your calculation was fine for the most part. Just missed 2 things.

Redria - 5
Sammy B. T. - 8
Mr. Ace Rimmer - 4
Alistair MacBain - 9.2
Thomas - 6
N-Sunderland - 9.2
Skrimskraw - 3
Allien' - 6.3
Captain Smollett - 6.2
Levi Mann - 3

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Nasher on March 28, 2014, 04:09:41 pm

Well I'm finding this thread more interesting as I go on.

But I hope to disappoint people thinking that 5-0 against the Bandits , but I understand we are a new team.

Best of luck to ya see ya all tomorrow :P

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Skrimskraw on March 28, 2014, 07:57:50 pm

I played diablo all week, shouldnt have put your bets on me lol

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Allien' on March 29, 2014, 09:34:37 am

Bracket C:
-Match 1: Glowwater Thralls vs The Art of Warfare = 5-2  on Northern Fjords
-Match 2: The IRIS Fleet vs The Clamour= 4-5 on Canyon Ambush
-Match 3: Glowwater Thralls vs The Clamour= 5-3 on Duel at Dawn
-Match 4: The Art of Warfare vs The IRIS Fleet= 4-5 on Battle on the Dunes
-Match 5: The Clamour vs The IRIS Fleet= 5-4 on Paritan Rumble

Bracket D:
-Match 1: Phalanx Infamia vs Mothers Against Gaming= 0-0 with MAG not showing, on Northern Fjords
-Match 2: The Mandarins vs Clockwork Cavalry= 0-0 with CC not showing, on Duel at Dawn
-Match 3: Phalanx Infamia vs The Mandarins= 0-5 on Canyon Ambush
-Match 4: 0-0
-Match 5: 0-0

Bracket E:
-Match 1: Mad Hatters vs The Cupcake Bandits= 5-0 on Canyon Ambush
-Match 2: VOLWe vs Black Flight Squadron= 0-5 on Duel at Dawn
-Match 3: The Gents vs Mad Hatters= 5-3 on Paritan Rumble
-Match 4: Black Flight Squadron vs The Gents= 2-5 on Northern Fjords
-Match 5: The Cupcake Bandits vs VOLWe= 5-2 on Battle on the Dunes
-Match 6: Mad Hatters vs The Cupcake Bandits= 5-0 on Canyon Ambush
-Match 7: Black Flight Squadron vs Mad Hatters= 3-5 on Duel at Dawn


Have fun everyone :)

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Captain Smollett on March 29, 2014, 03:33:10 pm

Umm, what Sunderland said. I'm too busy with work to type up a tipping thread but Sunder buddy seems to have called this week well so I'm going with it.

C1: GwTh def. TAW 5-0
C2: Clamour def. IRIS 5-2
C3: GwTh def. Clamour 5-2
C4: IRIS def. TAW 5-3
C5: Clamour def. IRIS 5-3

D1: MAG def. xPIx 0-0
D2: Mandarins def. CC 5-0
D3: Mandarins def. MAG 5-0
D4: CC def. xPIx 0-0
D5: MAG def. CC 5-1

E1: Hatters def. TCCB 5-0
E2: BFS def. VOLW 5-3
E3: Gents def. Hatters 5-0
E4: Gents def. BFS 5-0
E5: VOLW def. TCCB 5-1
E6: Hatters def. VOLW 5-2
E7: BFS def. Hatters 5-4

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Sammy B. T. on March 29, 2014, 03:38:53 pm

C
Match 1 Thrall beats TAW 5-3
Match 2 Clamour beats Iris 5-3
Match 3 Clamour beats Thrall 5-4
Match 4 Iris beats TAW 5-2
Match 5 Thralls beats Iris 5-3


D
Match 1 MAG beats PI, PI no show
Match 2 Mandarins beats Clockwork 5-0
Match 3 Mandarins beat MAG 5-0
Match 4 No match, Clock advances
Match 5 Clock beats MAG 5-4


E
Match 1 Hatters beat Cupcake 5-0
Match 2 BFS beats VOLWe 5-2
Match 3 Gents beat Hatters 5-4
Match 4 Gents beat BFS 5-3
Match 5 VOLWe beats Cupcake 5-4
Match 6 Hatters beats VOLWe 5-2
Match 7 BFS beats Hatters 5-1

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Mattilald Anguisad on March 29, 2014, 04:55:00 pm

I'm so happy I don't have to keep score - so many predictions to go thru XD

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Thomas on March 29, 2014, 05:08:38 pm

So what's going to happen to Group D? There was a replacement and a team fusion, more or less nullifying all the predictions (although technically I was right with 3 teams not showing. CC and MAG only had half a team each. ;D ).

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on March 29, 2014, 07:54:29 pm

As I mentioned before, I'm mostly away from internet for the next few days. I'll work on an answer and an appropriate point result. I have yet to watch games and as soon as I have an answer I'll let you know. :)

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Imagine on March 29, 2014, 08:01:30 pm

Easiest way would be to just not count group D.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Thomas on March 29, 2014, 08:03:40 pm

Ah, well some more bad news. The group C matches were not recorded, although I think we can get most of the scores. ((Although I still think that match 4 should have ended differently due to the time, but I have no way of proving that now. XD))

From what I recall

Match 2 - IRIS beats Clamour 5-0
Match 4 - Clamour Beats TAW 5-4
Match 5 - Clamour Beats IRIS 5-4

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: N-Sunderland on March 29, 2014, 08:10:37 pm

When you take into account that MAC basically replaced MAG and CC was counted as a forfeit, the results look like this:

D1: Muse def. MAC 5-0
D2: Mandarins def. CC 0-0
D3: Mandarins def. Muse 5-0
D4: MAC def. CC 0-0
D5: Muse def. MAC 5-0

So you could say that MAC counts as MAG, which means that a score of 3.3 is the maximum.

Or as Imagine said you could go ahead and not count it, which would probably make more sense.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: N-Sunderland on March 29, 2014, 08:13:52 pm

Not quite, Thomas. Clamour went down 3-5 against IRIS the first time around. Here are the full results:

C1: GwTh def. TAW 5-0
C2: IRIS def. Clamour 5-3
C3: GwTh def. IRIS 5-0
C4: Clamour def. TAW 5-4
C5: Clamour def. IRIS 5-4

Also apparently The Clamour won their TAW match with 18 seconds left on the timer.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Mattilald Anguisad on March 29, 2014, 08:22:56 pm

Congrats to TAW for their preformance despite playing with incomplete team (they had a guy with 15 matches and an AI on 1 ship, becouse they had 3 no shows on their team). TAW got near defeating Clamour (If I understand correctly understand has a benefit of being Ducks - and thus have a lot of very experienced players to coach any new team formed within) - and I'm pretty sure TAW were still the greatest underdogs in C bracket.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Thomas on March 31, 2014, 10:30:27 am

Ah, ty ty. I mixed up Match 1 and 2.

I still have my doubts on the timer, but even if I'm right, it's the ref's call.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Mr. Ace Rimmer on March 31, 2014, 11:02:51 am

Round 0

Overwatch beat FTK 2-0 (5-4, 5-3)

Clamour beat Muse 2-1 (4-5, 5-4, 5-0)

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Alistair MacBain on March 31, 2014, 11:17:19 am

OVW beats FTK 2-1 (5-3, 4-5, 5-4)
Clam beats Muse 2-0 (5-2, 5-3)

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Thomas on April 01, 2014, 12:37:21 am

Hm. This is a tough one. Normally I'd go for an overwhelming victory to Overwatch, but FTK showed a lot more ability than most people gave them credit for in the first grouping. Still, I'm not sure it will be enough to win against Overwatch, as they had to kick and claw their way through possibly the toughest Group to get into the brackets.

How's this scoring going to work? 1 for picking the right winner, 0.1 for the right matches won (2-0 or 2-1) , and another 0.1 for each correct match score?

OVW beats FTK 2-0 (5-2, 5-3)


Muse actually has a pretty strong team, however they're a little busy to practice regularly like most of the teams. If they had more open maps, I would have given them the win, as those are the maps they tend to be good at. But I suspect that Bubble's spire is just going to get wrecked on these close range maps.

Clam beats Muse 2-0 (5-3, 5-3)

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on April 01, 2014, 09:40:04 am

I am going to have to spend some serious time going through things. Yay changes!

To give you an idea of what I am probably going to do...
Since I gave you the option of predicting no-shows, I have to give points to those who predicted correctly. I will pretend that the bracket ran as planned and no changes were made. Points will be awarded appropriately.
Then, I am going to run a phantom bracket based on the changes that will do effectively nothing. I am going to assume that nobody would predict a newer team to beat either Muse or the Mandarins, and I'm going to assume that nobody would predict Muse to beat the mandarins. So I am basically going to give everyone some points for correctly predicting that muse beats the new team, is beat by the mandarins, and beats the new team again. So yeah. Makes sense to me.

Regarding moving forwards.... Crap.
If every matchup is worth 1 point (not every battle) then we have already distributed a majority of the points. Which makes the group stage worth about as much as the rest of the tournament combined. Which sucks.
Unless anyone disagrees, I will make each battle worth 1 point. This means in a best of 3, a 2-0 can only give 2 points, while a 2-1 can give 3 points. So correctly predicting a closer match is more rewarding. This also makes the later rounds of the tournament worth more.
As always, you are only rewarded for correct guesses, no punished for incorrect guesses. If you predict a match going to the 3rd round and it doesn't you won't be punished.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on April 02, 2014, 06:33:29 pm

Group C:

-Match 1:	Glowwater Thralls	def	The Art of Warfare	on	Northern Fjords	5-0
-Match 2:	The IRIS Fleet	def	The Clamour	on	Canyon Ambush	5-3
-Match 3:	Glowwater Thralls	def	The IRIS Fleet	on	Duel at Dawn	5-0
-Match 4:	The Clamour	def	The Art of Warfare	on	Battle on the Dunes	5-4
-Match 5:	The Clamour	def	The IRIS Fleet	on	Paritan Rumble	5-4

Group D:

-Match 1:	---	def	---	on	Northern Fjords	0-0
-Match 2:	The Mandarins	def	---	on	Duel at Dawn	0-0
-Match 3:	The Mandarins	def	---	on	Canyon Ambush	0-0
-Match 4:	---	def	---	on	Battle on the Dunes	0-0
-Match 5:	---	def	---	on	Paritan Rumble	0-0

Group D (Revised):

-Match 1:	Museosaurs	def	Mothers against Clockwork	on	Northern Fjords	5-0
-Match 2:	The Mandarins	def	Museosaurs	on	Duel at Dawn	5-0
-Match 3:	Museosaurs	def	Mothers against Clockwork	on	Canyon Ambush	5-0

Group E:

-Match 1:	Mad Hatters	def	The Cupcake Bandits	on	Canyon Ambush	5-0
-Match 2:	Black Flight Squadron	def	VOLWe	on	Duel at Dawn	5-1
-Match 3:	The Gents	def	Mad Hatters	on	Paritan Rumble	5-2
-Match 4:	The Gents	def	Black Flight Squadron	on	Northern Fjords/Duel at Dawn	4-3
-Match 5:	The Cupcake Bandits	def	VOLWe	on	Battle on the Dunes	5-4
-Match 6:	Mad Hatters	def	The Cupcake Bandits	on	Canyon Ambush	5-0
-Match 7:	Mad Hatters	def	Black Flight Squadron	on	Duel at Dawn	5-4

Current Standings

redria	-	19.3	-	(5 + 14.3)
Sammy B. T.	-	19.1	-	(8 + 11.1)
Mr. Ace Rimmer	-	17.1	-	(4 + 13.1)
Alistair MacBain	-	22.2	-	(9.2 + 13)
Thomas	-	23.3	-	(6 + 17.3)
N-Sunderland	-	22.3	-	(9.2 + 13.1)
Skrimskraw	-	6	-	(3 + 3)
Allien'	-	22.6	-	(6.3 + 16.3)
Captain Smollett	-	19.3	-	(6.2 + 13.1)
Levi Mann	-	6	-	(3 + 3)

Notes:
Thomas and Allien' were the only 2 people to guess that more than one team from Group D would fail to show.
For matches with no winners (neither team shows) I awarded no points if you predicted a winner. Your predicted winner did not win. Sorry.  :-\
Thomas's lack of faith in the new teams led to him correctly guessing every match in the group.
I did not give Thomas credit for guessing the correct score. I will only be awarding bonus points for guessing the correct score on matches that are actually played.
I assumed everyone would predict the outcome of D (revised) correctly and awarded everyone 3 points accordingly.
If you disagree and say you would have guessed differently, I will take away your points...
Allien' leads in guessing kill results correctly.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on April 02, 2014, 06:36:39 pm

April 05, 2014:
Bracket Round 0:
Match 1:

-Game 1:	Fancy Teamkillers	vs	Overwatch	on	Northern Fjords
-Game 2:	Fancy Teamkillers	vs	Overwatch	on	Canyon Ambush
-Game 3:	Fancy Teamkillers	vs	Overwatch	on	Battle on the Dunes

Match 2:

-Game 1:	Museosaurs	vs	The Clamour	on	Duel at Dawn
-Game 2:	Museosaurs	vs	The Clamour	on	Canyon Ambush
-Game 3:	Museosaurs	vs	The Clamour	on	Battle on the Dunes

Current Standings

redria	-	19.3
Sammy B. T.	-	19.1
Mr. Ace Rimmer	-	17.1
Alistair MacBain	-	22.2
Thomas	-	23.3
N-Sunderland	-	22.3
Skrimskraw	-	6
Allien'	-	22.6
Captain Smollett	-	19.3
Levi Mann	-	6

Notes:
-Game 3 will only take place if there is a draw or if different teams win games 1 and 2
-1 Point will be awarded for correctly guessing the winner of a game (if you do not think a game will take place, simply note that the game will not take place. No explanation is necessary)
-0.1 points will be awarded for correctly guessing the final score of a game that occurs

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Skrimskraw on April 02, 2014, 07:45:46 pm

Im forgetting to tip and I also dont like tipping on our own games :p

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on April 03, 2014, 10:51:16 am

Quote from: Skrimskraw on April 02, 2014, 07:45:46 pm

Im forgetting to tip and I also dont like tipping on our own games :p

I can take you off the list if you want.  ;)

M1G1: OVW def FtK 5-3
M1G2: OVW def FtK 5-4
M1G3: ---

M2G1: Clmr def Muse 5-0
M2G2: Muse def Clmr 5-4
M2G3: Clmr def Muse 5-2

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Mr. Ace Rimmer on April 03, 2014, 11:04:24 am

Just restating in Redria's format.

M1G1: OVW def FtK 5-4
M1G2: OVW def FtK 5-3
M1G3: ---
(OVW def FtK 2-0)

M2G1: Muse def Clmr 5-4
M2G2: Clmr def Muse 5-4
M2G3: Clmr def Muse 5-0
(Clmr def Muse 2-1)

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Skrimskraw on April 03, 2014, 04:05:16 pm

yea I wont have the time to put myself into the teams and their rosters, things have been hectic this week for me, I wont be able to win this :p just take me off, but it's nice that you do this, I might make a "professional" (highlight ont he quotation marks) comment next week, if it interest some people.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: N-Sunderland on April 04, 2014, 04:54:58 pm

M1G1: OVW def FtK 5-2
M1G2: OVW def FtK 5-1
M1G3: ---
(OVW def FtK 2-0)

M2G1: Clamour def. Muse 5-2
M2G2: Clamour def. Muse 5-3
M2G3: ---
(Clmr def Muse 2-0)

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Allien' on April 05, 2014, 01:24:46 pm

Match 1:
-Game 1:   Fancy Teamkillers vs Overwatch = 3-5  on Northern Fjords
-Game 2:   Fancy Teamkillers vs Overwatch = 5-4  on Canyon Ambush
-Game 3:   Fancy Teamkillers vs Overwatch = 5-3  on Battle on the Dunes

Match 2:
-Game 1: Museosaurs vs The Clamour= 1-5    on Duel at Dawn
-Game 2: Museosaurs vs The Clamour= 2-5    on Canyon Ambush
-Game 3: Museosaurs vs   The Clamour on Battle on the Dunes

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Sammy B. T. on April 05, 2014, 04:21:38 pm

Damn I forgot to tip before but I am going to throw up predictions for the Clamour vs Muse

Muse beats Clamour 5-3
Clamour beats Muse 5-4
Clamour beats Muse 5-4

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on April 05, 2014, 04:48:19 pm

Quote from: Sammy B. T. on April 05, 2014, 04:21:38 pm

Damn I forgot to tip before but I am going to throw up predictions for the Clamour vs Muse

Muse beats Clamour 5-3
Clamour beats Muse 5-4
Clamour beats Muse 5-4

Match hasn't started. accepted. :)

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on April 06, 2014, 08:13:09 pm

Match 1:

-Game 1:	Overwatch	def	Fancy Teamkillers	on	Northern Fjords	5-2
-Game 2:	Overwatch	def	Fancy Teamkillers	on	Canyon Ambush	5-1
-Game 3:	---	def	---	on	Battle on the Dunes	0-0

Match 2:

-Game 1:	The Clamour	def	Museosaurs	on	Duel at Dawn	5-1
-Game 2:	Museosaurs	def	The Clamour	on	Canyon Ambush	5-2
-Game 3:	The Clamour	def	Museosaurs	on	Battle on the Dunes	5-2

Current Standings

redria	-	25.4	-	(19.3 + 6.1)
Sammy B. T.	-	20.1	-	(19.1 + 1)
Mr. Ace Rimmer	-	21.1	-	(17.1 + 4)
Alistair MacBain	-	26.2	-	(22.2 + 4)
Thomas	-	28.4	-	(23.3 + 5.1)
N-Sunderland	-	27.5	-	(22.3 + 5.2)
Allien'	-	25.7	-	(22.6 + 3.1)
Captain Smollett	-	19.3	-	(19.3 + 0)
Levi Mann	-	6	-	(6 + 0)

Notes:
Levi Mann missed out on getting a prediction in (again. c'mon man[n])
Captain Smollett apparently forgot as well (though I admit my tardiness in getting points tabulated may have hurt that)
Allien' was the only person to predict something other than OVW and Clmr advancing (and still beat Sammy B.T.)
Most people are within ~3 points of each other, which can easily swing in a single week. This is still wide open

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on April 06, 2014, 08:14:39 pm

April 12, 2014:
Bracket Round 1:
Match 1:

-Game 1:	The Gents	vs	Overwatch	on	TBA
-Game 2:	The Gents	vs	Overwatch	on	TBA
-Game 3:	The Gents	vs	Overwatch	on	TBA

Match 2:

-Game 1:	The Mandarins	vs	Glowwater Thralls	on	TBA
-Game 2:	The Mandarins	vs	Glowwater Thralls	on	TBA
-Game 3:	The Mandarins	vs	Glowwater Thralls	on	TBA

Match 3:

-Game 1:	Crimson Sky Riders	vs	Holy Celestium	on	TBA
-Game 2:	Crimson Sky Riders	vs	Holy Celestium	on	TBA
-Game 3:	Crimson Sky Riders	vs	Holy Celestium	on	TBA

Match 4:

-Game 1:	The Clamour	vs	Mad Hatters	on	TBA
-Game 2:	The Clamour	vs	Mad Hatters	on	TBA
-Game 3:	The Clamour	vs	Mad Hatters	on	TBA

Current Standings

redria	-	25.4
Sammy B. T.	-	20.1
Mr. Ace Rimmer	-	21.1
Alistair MacBain	-	26.2
Thomas	-	28.4
N-Sunderland	-	27.5
Allien'	-	25.7
Captain Smollett	-	19.3
Levi Mann	-	6

Notes:
-Game 3 will only take place if there is a draw or if different teams win games 1 and 2
-1 Point will be awarded for correctly guessing the winner of a game, even if the game does not take place (if you do not think a game will take place, simply note that the game will not take place. No explanation is necessary)
-0.1 points will be awarded for correctly guessing the final score of a game that occurs

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on April 10, 2014, 09:01:48 am

---~~~===Updated with proper maps===~~~---

Match 1:

-Game 1:	The Gents	vs	Overwatch	on	Duel at Dawn
-Game 2:	The Gents	vs	Overwatch	on	Northern Fjords
-Game 3:	The Gents	vs	Overwatch	on	Canyon Ambush

Match 2:

-Game 1:	The Mandarins	vs	Glowwater Thralls	on	Paritan Rumble
-Game 2:	The Mandarins	vs	Glowwater Thralls	on	Battle on the Dunes
-Game 3:	The Mandarins	vs	Glowwater Thralls	on	Northern Fjords

Match 3:

-Game 1:	Crimson Sky Riders	vs	Holy Celestium	on	Paritan Rumble
-Game 2:	Crimson Sky Riders	vs	Holy Celestium	on	Canyon Ambush
-Game 3:	Crimson Sky Riders	vs	Holy Celestium	on	Duel at Dawn

Match 4:

-Game 1:	The Clamour	vs	Mad Hatters	on	Duel at Dawn
-Game 2:	The Clamour	vs	Mad Hatters	on	Northern Fjords
-Game 3:	The Clamour	vs	Mad Hatters	on	Paritan Rumble

And of course, to kick off the tipping.

M1G1: OVW def Gent 5-1
M1G2: OVW def Gent 5-3
M1G3: ---

M2G1: GwTh def Duck 5-4
M2G2: Duck def GwTh 5-2
M2G3: Duck def GwTh 5-1

M3G1: Holy def CsR 5-4
M3G2: CsR def Holy 5-4
M3G3: CsR def Holy 5-4

M4G1: Clmr def MadH 5-4
M4G2: MadH def Clmr 5-0
M4G3: MadH def Clmr 5-1

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Mr. Ace Rimmer on April 10, 2014, 09:11:28 am

Ok, my bets:

M1G1: OVW def Gent 5-1
M1G2: OVW def Gent 5-3
M1G3: ---

M2G1: GwTh def Duck 5-4
M2G2: Duck def GwTh 5-2
M2G3: GwTh def Duck 5-3

M3G1: Holy def CsR 5-4
M3G2: CsR def Holy 5-4
M3G3: Holy def CsR 5-3

M4G1: Clmr def MadH 5-3
M4G2: MadH def Clmr 5-0
M4G3: MadH def Clmr 5-1

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Alistair MacBain on April 10, 2014, 12:47:47 pm

Nearly forgot those ...

My bets:

M1G1: OVW def Gent 5-2
M1G2: OVW def Gent 5-3
M1G3: ---

M2G1: Duck def GwTh 5-3
M2G2: Gwth def Duck 5-3
M2G3: Duck def GwTh 5-4

M3G1: Holy def CsR 5-4
M3G2: CsR def Holy 5-4
M3G3: Holy def CsR 5-3

M4G1: Clmr def MadH 5-3
M4G2: MadH def Clmr 5-2
M4G3: MadH def Clmr 5-1

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on April 10, 2014, 01:14:21 pm

This looks to be one of the most interesting weeks. Every match could go either way.

OVW and Gents, I have to give the upper hand to OVW, but if we don't play smart, I know the Gents could easily capitalize and knock us out.

Mandarins and GwTh, the Mandarins are absurdly good, but GwTh runs very interesting tactics, and could pull a surprise or 2 out of the hat. I don't see them managing it for 2 wins though.

Holy and CsR, CsR has been one of the favorites to advance, but after Holy rolled the Merry Men 5-0, I could see them surprising people even more. Should be a fascinating match to watch.

Clamour and Mad Hatters, I don't know what the Clamour team is going to look like on Saturday and I know the Hatters aren't slouches so I'm pretty confident that the Hatters walk away victorious. But I could see the Clamour pulling out a victory.

Regardless, I'm excited to watch/play. ^.^

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Alistair MacBain on April 10, 2014, 01:47:12 pm

Totally agree redria.
Those matches will be pretty interesting and they can go either way.
Was pretty hard to decide.

Gents vs OVW
Gents always were a passive team and got surprised quite often.
I think the super aggresive style OVW plays these days will give them the upper hand.


Mandarins vs Thralls
Quite hard aswell. I give it to the Mandarins cause they got alot more experience and they tend to adopt quite fast.
They dont get surprised that fast and they can easily change from a positional midrange snipe to a fast and brutal brawl.
On paritan the mobile ducks wont get ambushed that easy.
Dunes however with its low cover will enable the thralls to pull of one of their famous fast engages where they just crush you in seconds.
The Ducks never played Fjords stationary so thralls will probably not get their famous ambushs on the ducks.

Holy vs CsRy
Think Holy surprised everyone (even themselves) with their group victory.
They are sure quite good and the mappool they got the Ryders wont be able to pull off their long and hard sniping fights. They are quite good in brawls aswell but their tactics (or atleast the one i remember them) relys on stationary or slow moving opponents. Holy however will probably not play the wait game and get the fights to the Ryders.
I think they can outbrawl the ryders. And i want them to win. Newcomer wins are so much more enjoyable :D.

Clamour vs MadHatters
Clamour is a kinda new team with competetive/highlvl wise kinda inexperienced players for the most part.
Even though the MadHatters lost a bid of their strenght they have alot of experienced competetive players.
I think due to their experience they will beat Clamour.

PS: redone my tips for that last match.
Cant edit the old post anymore so i post everything together in this post again.

M1G1: OVW def Gent 5-2
M1G2: OVW def Gent 5-3
M1G3: ---

M2G1: Duck def GwTh 5-3
M2G2: Gwth def Duck 5-3
M2G3: Duck def GwTh 5-4

M3G1: Holy def CsR 5-4
M3G2: CsR def Holy 5-4
M3G3: Holy def CsR 5-3

M4G1: MadH def Clmr 5-3
M4G2: MadH def Clmr 5-2

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Skrimskraw on April 10, 2014, 06:25:40 pm

play to win or play to impress ;)

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Thomas on April 11, 2014, 08:45:42 pm

These matches are going to be interesting. It could go either way for a lot of them.

These first matches are a tough prediction. I think Gents have an advantage on these maps, but OVW has ingenuity on their side; and I think OVW will pull it off.

M1G1: OVW def Gent 5-4
M1G2: Gent def OVW 5-3
M1G3: OVW def Gent 5-3



These seconds matches I think will go in Duck's favor. They're well practiced and the maps fit their playstyle.

M2G1: GwTh def Duck 5-3
M2G2: Duck def GwTh 5-2
M2G3: Duck def GwTh 5-2


And of course I'm biased on these matches. I know this team is going to be really tough to beat.

M3G1: Holy def CsR 5-3
M3G2: Holy def CsR 52
M3G3: ----


As much kudos as I would like to give Clamour, I feel that Mad Hatters are a tougher opponent than most teams they've faced.

M4G1: MadH def Clmr 5-3
M4G2: MadH def Clmr 5-1
M4G3: ----

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: N-Sunderland on April 12, 2014, 01:43:29 pm

M1G1: OVW def. Gents 5-0
M1G2: OVW def. Gents 5-2
M1G3: ---

M2G1: Mandarins def. GwTh 5-0
M2G2: Mandarins def. GwTh 5-0
M2G3: ---

M3G1: Holy def. CSR 5-4
M3G2: CSR def. Holy 5-3
M3G3: CSR def. Holy 5-2

M4G1: Hatters def. Clamour 5-2
M4G2: Hatters def. Clamour 5-0
M4G3: ---

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Sammy B. T. on April 12, 2014, 03:27:53 pm

M1G1 OVW def Gent 5-2
M1G2 Gent def OVW 5-3
M1G3 OVW def Gent 5-3
 
M2G1 Mand def GwTh 5-0
M2G2 Mand def GwTh 5-2
M2G3 ---------

M3G1 Holy def CSR 5-4
M3G2 CSR def Holy 5-3
M3G3 CSR def Holy 5-3

M4G1 Clamour def Hatters 5-4
M4G2 Hatters def Clamour 5-2
M4G3 Clamour def Hatters 5-3

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Allien' on April 12, 2014, 04:03:18 pm

Match 1:
G1- OVW def Gent 5-3
G2- OVW def Gent 5-4

Match 2:
G1 Mand def GwTh 5-2
G2 GwTh def Mand 5-3
G3 GwTh def Mand 5-4

Match 3:
G1 CSR def Holy 5-2
G2 CSR def Holy 5-0

Match 4:
G1 Hatters def Clamour 5-1
G2 Hatters def Clamour 5-3

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on April 14, 2014, 11:18:21 am

Match 1:

-Game 1:	The Gents	def	Overwatch	on	Duel at Dawn	5-4
-Game 2:	Overwatch	def	The Gents	on	Northern Fjords	5-4
-Game 3:	Overwatch	def	The Gents	on	Canyon Ambush	3-2

Match 2:

-Game 1:	The Mandarins	def	Glowwater Thralls	on	Paritan Rumble	5-0
-Game 2:	The Mandarins	def	Glowwater Thralls	on	Battle on the Dunes	5-4
-Game 3:	---	def	---	on	Northern Fjords	0-0

Match 3:

-Game 1:	Crimson Sky Riders	def	Holy Celestium	on	Paritan Rumble	5-1
-Game 2:	Crimson Sky Riders	def	Holy Celestium	on	Canyon Ambush	5-0
-Game 3:	---	def	---	on	Duel at Dawn	0-0

Match 4:

-Game 1:	Mad Hatters	def	The Clamour	on	Duel at Dawn	5-4
-Game 2:	Mad Hatters	def	The Clamour	on	Northern Fjords	5-0
-Game 3:	---	def	---	on	Paritan Rumble	0-0

Current Standings

redria	-	33.5	-	(25.4 + 8.1)
Sammy B. T.	-	27.2	-	(20.1 + 7.1)
Mr. Ace Rimmer	-	27.2	-	(21.1 + 6.1)
Alistair MacBain	-	34.2	-	(26.2 + 8.0)
Thomas	-	34.4	-	(28.4 + 6.0)
N-Sunderland	-	37.7	-	(27.5 + 10.2)
Allien'	-	34.9	-	(25.7 + 9.2)
Captain Smollett	-	19.3	-	(19.3 + 0.0)
Levi Mann	-	6.0	-	(6.0 + 0.0)

Notes:
Most of us seem to have a feel for how the match will end up turning out, but my are we bad at guessing how each individual game is going to go. Wild Weekend! Two more to go!
Captain Smollett and Levi Mann are about 1 missed tipping away from getting dropped from the standings :O
Sammy B. T. and Mr. Ace Rimmer are somehow tied right now
N-Sunderland has the lead by almost 3 points but
The biggest point difference this weekend was Thomas and Sunderland -> 4.2 points

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on April 14, 2014, 01:56:40 pm

April 19, 2014:
Semifinals:
Match 1:

-Game 1:	Overwatch	vs	The Mandarins	on	Northern Fjords
-Game 2:	Overwatch	vs	The Mandarins	on	Duel at Dawn
-Game 3:	Overwatch	vs	The Mandarins	on	Paritan Rumble

Match 2:

-Game 1:	Crimson Sky Riders	vs	Mad Hatters	on	Northern Fjords
-Game 2:	Crimson Sky Riders	vs	Mad Hatters	on	Canyon Ambush
-Game 3:	Crimson Sky Riders	vs	Mad Hatters	on	Paritan Rumble

Current Standings

redria	-	33.5
Sammy B. T.	-	27.2
Mr. Ace Rimmer	-	27.2
Alistair MacBain	-	34.2
Thomas	-	34.4
N-Sunderland	-	37.7
Allien'	-	34.9
Captain Smollett	-	19.3
Levi Mann	-	6.0

Notes:
-Game 3 will only take place if there is a draw or if different teams win games 1 and 2
-1 Point will be awarded for correctly guessing the winner of a game, even if the game does not take place (if you do not think a game will take place, simply note that the game will not take place. No explanation is necessary)
-0.1 points will be awarded for correctly guessing the final score of a game that occurs

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Alistair MacBain on April 14, 2014, 01:58:29 pm

Match 1
M1G1 OVW beats Duck 5-4
M2G2 Duck beats OVW 5-3
M3G3 Duck beats OVW 5-3
This could easily go either way. I am sure that both those teams scrimmed alot against each other which makes predictions for everyone not involved with those scrims extremly hard.
I think overall i would give the Ducks the edge but especially Fjords should give the style OVW played in the earlier stages of the tournament the upper hand. THis super aggresive style can easly beat a junker but i think the Ducks know how to beat it. This will be extremely interesting. Its a bid of a early final for me.

Match 2
M1G1 CSRY beats MH 5-3
M2G2 CSRY beats MH 5-4
While both those teams are really good i think Ryders have the edge. They defintetly have more experience in competetive matches and especially Hillerton knows alot of those tricks. The MH pilots are compared to this a bid green. Velvet got experience yes. He flew for the MH and Gents as subcaptain and got his experience from this but Hillerton just got more competetive experience.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on April 14, 2014, 02:46:38 pm

Quote from: Alistair MacBain on April 14, 2014, 01:58:29 pm

predictions for everyone not involved with those scrims extremly hard.

And for everyone involved in the scrims. Let's be honest.

Quote from: Alistair MacBain on April 14, 2014, 01:58:29 pm

Its a bid of a early final for me.

TBH, I think there are 4 teams really on top of things ATM. No offense to the hatters or anyone else involved (this tournament has been crazy good) but I think OVW, Mandarins, CsR, and GwTh are pretty much the top tier right now.
I think the Mandarins style was the counter to the GwTh style, and that against almost any other team GwTh would have come out ahead.
CsR have a superbly powerful pair of ships that are being flown with excellent coordination, making them a threat on every map, in any situation.
OVW feels to me like a wildcard every time. I'm not really sure what our style is. We just all mesh really well together and are on top of our game at the moment.

On any given day these teams can lose outside of this tier, but these are the matches I've been looking for the whole time. I'm so nervouscited for this weekend and next.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Alistair MacBain on April 14, 2014, 02:54:27 pm

Havent seen to much from Thralls recently to judge this.
I think the Thralls weren't at the top of their play on saturday. They sure are innovative and really good. Just not sure how good atm ...
Mandarin style doesnt fit thralls usual style to well for sure.
The other 3 for sure.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Mr. Ace Rimmer on April 14, 2014, 03:55:25 pm

Match 1
M1G1 OVW beats Duck 5-4
M2G2 Duck beats OVW 5-4
M3G3 OVW beats Duck 5-3

I have to go with my people here, I wouldn't dare bet against them. That being said you can never ever rule the Mandarins out. Make no mistake whether 2 games or three, this match will be close, hard fought and one hell of a watch.


Match 2
M2G1 CSRY beats MH 5-3
M2G2 CSRY beats MH 5-3

Got to agree with Alistair here. The hatters are good, but I think the experience of CSR will win through here. I can't wait to see this. There is always the possibility the Hatters pull off either an upset or force a third game.

No matter who wins through to the final, this week and next should show some of the best the GOIO competitive scene has to offer and will provide a thrilling climax to the tournament.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on April 14, 2014, 04:00:02 pm

Sigh. I guess I should post too (early).

Screw it. Overwatch in 2 games. >:)

M1G1: OVW def Duck 5-4
M1G2: OVW def Duck 5-4
M1G3: ---

M2G1: CsRy def MH 5-0
M2G2: CsRy def MH 5-0
M2G3: ---

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: N-Sunderland on April 14, 2014, 04:00:52 pm

Looks like our predictions are very contrasting, redria ;)

M1G1: Mandarins def. OVW 5-0
M1G2: Mandarins def. OVW 5-0
M1G3: ---

I don't actually expect a double 5-0 here. OVW is one of the strongest teams out there and may very well beat us. These predictions are just better for my confidence I suppose.

M2G1: CSR def. Hatters 5-0
M2G2: CSR def. Hatters 5-0
M2G3: ---

CSR are always impressive, and they have an experience edge over Hatters here. Hatters might land some kills, but I can't see it going to three games.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Mattisamo on April 14, 2014, 05:03:23 pm

Just for funsies:

M1G1: OvW def Mandarins 5-3
M1G2: Mandarins def OvW 5-3
M1G2: Mandarins def OvW 5-2

This might just go the other way, but I see 3 close games filled with awesomeness.

M2G1: CSR def Hatters 5-2
M2G2: Matters def CSR 5-4
M2G3: CSR def Hatters 5-3

CSR definitely have the experience going for them, and will take game one, with Hatters bouncing back with a clutch second game, but in the end I feel that CSR's experience will take them the game three.

Hatters, prove me wrong!

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Velvet on April 14, 2014, 05:38:54 pm

Quote from: Mattisamo on April 14, 2014, 05:03:23 pm

Hatters, prove me wrong!

that's the plan.

it's a good plan.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Lunalee on April 15, 2014, 03:26:12 am

Quote from: redria on April 14, 2014, 02:46:38 pm

OVW feels to me like a wildcard every time. I'm not really sure what our style is. We just all mesh really well together and are on top of our game at the moment.

On any given day these teams can lose outside of this tier, but these are the matches I've been looking for the whole time. I'm so nervouscited for this weekend and next.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYtjpIwamos

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Sammy B. T. on April 19, 2014, 01:48:40 pm

M1G1: Mandarins def. OVW 5-2
M1G2: Mandarins def. OVW 5-2
M1G3: ---

M2G1: CsRy def MH 5-3
M2G2: CsRy def MH 5-3
M2G3: ---

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Allien' on April 19, 2014, 02:09:43 pm

Match 1:
-Game 1: Overwatch vs The Mandarins = 1-5 on Northern Fjords
-Game 2: Overwatch vs The Mandarins = 0-5 on Duel at Dawn
-Game 3: Overwatch vs The Mandarins on Paritan Rumble

Match 2:
-Game 1: Crimson Sky Riders vs Mad Hatters= 5-1 on Northern Fjords
-Game 2: Crimson Sky Riders vs Mad Hatters= 5-2 on Canyon Ambush
-Game 3: Crimson Sky Riders vs Mad Hatters on Paritan Rumble

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on April 21, 2014, 04:51:40 pm

Match 1:

-Game 1:	The Mandarins	def	Overwatch	on	Northern Fjords	5-0
-Game 2:	Overwatch	def	The Mandarins	on	Duel at Dawn	5-4
-Game 3:	The Mandarins	def	Overwatch	on	Paritan Rumble	5-2

Match 2:

-Game 1:	Crimson Sky Riders	def	Mad Hatters	on	Northern Fjords	5-4
-Game 2:	Crimson Sky Riders	def	Mad Hatters	on	Canyon Ambush	5-1
-Game 3:	---	def	---	on	Paritan Rumble	0-0

Current Standings

redria	-	37.6	-	(33.5 + 4.1)
Sammy B. T.	-	32.2	-	(27.2 + 5.0)
Mr. Ace Rimmer	-	30.2	-	(27.2 + 3.0)
Alistair MacBain	-	38.2	-	(34.2 + 4.0)
Thomas	-	34.4	-	(34.4 + 0.0)
N-Sunderland	-	42.8	-	(37.7 + 5.1)
Allien'	-	39.9	-	(34.9 + 5.0)
Captain Smollett	-	19.3	-	(19.3 + 0.0)
Levi Mann	-	6.0	-	(6.0 + 0.0)
Mattisamo	-	3.1	-	(3.1)

Notes:
Mattisamo was the not the only person to correctly guess a score, and Sunderland should have been tracking scores instead of me (he seems to do it better).
The only people not mathematically elliminated are myself, Alistair, Sunderland, and Allien. Thomas was in the running but forgot to post.
I can only beat Sunderland if I guess completely opposite of him and guess 3 scores right. Not mathematically eliminated!

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: N-Sunderland on April 21, 2014, 04:54:04 pm

I think you'll need to go over those scores again. I correctly guessed 5-0 for The Mandarins on Fjords, you correctly guessed 5-4 for OVW on Duel, and there might have been some other ones too.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on April 21, 2014, 04:54:37 pm

April 26, 2014:
Finals:

-Game 1:	The Mandarins	vs	Crimson Sky Riders	on	Northern Fjords
-Game 2:	The Mandarins	vs	Crimson Sky Riders	on	Paritan Rumble
-Game 3:	The Mandarins	vs	Crimson Sky Riders	on	Canyon Ambush
-Game 3:	The Mandarins	vs	Crimson Sky Riders	on	Duel at Dawn
-Game 3:	The Mandarins	vs	Crimson Sky Riders	on	Battle on the Dunes

Current Standings

redria	-	37.6
Sammy B. T.	-	32.2
Mr. Ace Rimmer	-	30.2
Alistair MacBain	-	38.2
Thomas	-	34.4
N-Sunderland	-	42.8
Allien'	-	39.9
Captain Smollett	-	19.3
Levi Mann	-	6.0
Mattisamo	-	3.1

Notes:
-Games 4 and 5 will only take place if there is a draw or if different teams win games 1, 2,  and 3
-1 Point will be awarded for correctly guessing the winner of a game, even if the game does not take place (if you do not think a game will take place, simply note that the game will not take place. No explanation is necessary)
-0.1 points will be awarded for correctly guessing the final score of a game that occurs

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on April 21, 2014, 04:55:10 pm

Quote from: N-Sunderland on April 21, 2014, 04:54:04 pm

I think you'll need to go over those scores again. I correctly guessed 5-0 for The Mandarins on Fjords, you correctly guessed 5-4 for OVW on Duel, and there might have been some other ones too.

herpderpderpderp.
Yeah, I'll double check real quick before my edit privileges run out. sigh.

*Fixed. Yell at me if you see anything else.*

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Mr. Ace Rimmer on April 21, 2014, 05:10:19 pm

M1 Mandarins beat Ryders 5-3
M2 Mandarins beat Ryders 5-2
M3 Mandarins beat Ryders 5-3
M4 --
M5 --

Having now re watched a lot of VOD's for the Skyleague, I'm giving this to the Mandarins in a 3-0 shut out. The Ryders are good, there is no doubt about it, but i feel their play style will be undone by the Ducks, much like Overwatch was in the Semi Finals. Ryders will get some kills in but I just don't think they have enough in them to win a match here.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: N-Sunderland on April 21, 2014, 05:16:53 pm

I'm gonna be bold here. It didn't happen last week against Overwatch (we were crashed into by a rainbow), but I think shutout predictions look pretty.

G1: Mandarins def. CSR 5-0
G2: Mandarins def. CSR 5-0
G3: Mandarins def. CSR 5-0
G4: --------------------------
G5: --------------------------

Looking at those standings, redria, this is your cue to post exactly the opposite of my predictions ;)

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Alistair MacBain on April 21, 2014, 05:18:08 pm

G1: Mandarin beats CSR 5-1
G2: Mandarin beats CSR 5-2
G3: CSR beats Mandarin 5-4
G4: Mandarin beats CSR 5-4
G5: ------------------------------

Mandarins will probably have the upper hand on fjords. Their usual aggresive rush when the game starts will give them the upper hand and allow them to react to anything CSR wants to do.
The map is just to open to sucessfully charge the mandarins. They are aware of the angles and they will move as soon as they see CSR moving into position.
Paritan will be a bid better for CSR but the higher altitudes still grant to much open field to approach the Mandarins.
Canyon ambush however with all the hard cover and clouds will probably give CSR the ability to get an approach on the Mandarins. They might loose the first engagement but once they know the Mandarin positioning they will most likely get some good charges on the Mandarins.
Duel can get interesting but the superior midrange fighting the ducks are able to do will probably give them the upper hand. They dont fear a CSR charge when they can disable one enemy ship and just outbrawl the charging opponent.

I would love to see Dunes and i actually think the experience in superlongrange fights CSR has with their old dual mobula style could give them the advantage.

I am super excited for this games and im sure it will be great to watch.

PS: redria you mixed up the numbers for game 4 and 5. You called both game 3 aswell ;).

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on April 22, 2014, 11:01:04 am

Quote from: N-Sunderland on April 21, 2014, 05:16:53 pm

Looking at those standings, redria, this is your cue to post exactly the opposite of my predictions ;)

Ahhh but then if Allien' predicts that CsR wins 2 matches, I lose to him. Also, do I bet against my actual prediction (sorry CsR :/)for a shot at winning?

Ah, why not. Let's make this a game. :D

G1: CsR def Duck 5-3
G2: CsR def Duck 5-4
G3: CsR def Duck 5-4
G4: ---
G5: ---

With regards to this, Paritan and Canyon should favor the mandarins.
Fjords favors the mandarins if we see pyramidions, but mobulas could make things interesting. However, with large height range mandarins should still have the advantage.
Mandarins should hope the match doesn't go past 3 games since they have troubles on Duel and Dunes probably favors the mobula builds CsR has taken previously.

Overall I see the mandarins winning. But that's not why we're here, is it?
CsR in 3 matches! New outfit, here I come!

Quote from: Alistair MacBain on April 21, 2014, 05:18:08 pm

PS: redria you mixed up the numbers for game 4 and 5. You called both game 3 aswell ;).

Bah. Oh well.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Skrimskraw on April 22, 2014, 11:17:15 am

none of the teams show up 0-0

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Alistair MacBain on April 22, 2014, 11:29:50 am

Would need to predict pretty different from Sunderland. But thats not how i think the games will actually end.
I stay with my predicitons.
I also dont need another outfit that much ^^.
If i ever want another one i can play in a devmatch or just buy it. Even if im thinking of a new dye for one of my outfits. But i dont want to delete the current one so i stay with it for now :D.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Mattisamo on April 22, 2014, 11:48:56 am

G1: Mandarins def  CsR 5-2
G2: CsR def Mandarins 5-3
G3: CsR def Mandarins 5-2
G4: Mandarins def CsR 5-1
G5: CsR def Mandarins 5-4

I feel that Mandarins will have the advantage on the more open maps(Fjords/DaD) with their artemis/hades junkers, while CsR will be able to maneuver the tighter maps and spring heavy ambushes. In the end CsR takes the final game on the most open map with a clutch final kill after a 4-4 tie.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on April 22, 2014, 12:06:39 pm

Quote from: Skrimskraw on April 22, 2014, 11:17:15 am

none of the teams show up 0-0

Best prediction. +100 points if correct.

Also acceptable: neither team shows, and Urz allows 2 new teams to enter in their place: the Crimson Ducks, and the MandaRiders. Both teams spend the entire time flying in circles around the maps and every match ends in a 0-0 tie. Museosaurs declared champions.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Sammy B. T. on April 26, 2014, 03:56:08 pm

Mandarins will win three five to zeroes.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Allien' on April 26, 2014, 03:58:07 pm

G1: Mandarins def  CsR 5-1
G2: CsR def Mandarins 5-1
G3: CsR def Mandarins 5-3
G4: CsR def Mandarins 5-2

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on April 29, 2014, 09:50:27 am

Finals

-Game 1:	The Mandarins	def	Crimson Sky Riders	on	Northern Fjords	5-0
-Game 2:	The Mandarins	def	Crimson Sky Riders	on	Paritan Rumble	5-2
-Game 3:	The Mandarins	def	Crimson Sky Riders	on	Canyon ambush	5-2
-Game 4:	---	def	---	on	---	0-0
-Game 5:	---	def	---	on	---	0-0

Current Standings

redria	-	37.6	-	(37.6 + 0.0)
Sammy B. T.	-	37.3	-	(32.2 + 5.1)
Mr. Ace Rimmer	-	35.3	-	(30.2 + 5.1)
Alistair MacBain	-	42.3	-	(38.2 + 4.1)
Thomas	-	34.4	-	(34.4 + 0.0)
N-Sunderland	-	47.9	-	(42.8 + 5.1)
Allien'	-	40.9	-	(39.9 + 1.0)
Captain Smollett	-	19.3	-	(19.3 + 0.0)
Levi Mann	-	6.0	-	(6.0 + 0.0)
Mattisamo	-	4.1	-	(3.1 + 1.0)

Notes:
Congratulations to N-Sunderland! Send an email over to keyvias@musegames.com because I'm not sure who else you could contact to ask for your costume (link:https://gunsoficarus.com/community/forum/index.php/topic,3742.msg65434.html#msg65434 (https://gunsoficarus.com/community/forum/index.php/topic,3742.msg65434.html#msg65434)). Because you totally need more costumes as you begin withdrawing from the game. ;)
Honorable mentions to Alistair Macbain and Allien' for taking second and third place respectively.

And for everyone else, thanks for participating. I... expect something similar to show up again soon, so don't put your thinking caps away just yet. ;)

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Alistair MacBain on April 29, 2014, 10:03:36 am

Was a pleasure redria. Thanks for doing that.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: GeoRmr on April 29, 2014, 11:54:07 am

OP wins his own tipping game  8)

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Imagine on April 29, 2014, 11:56:38 am

Quote from: GeoRmr on April 29, 2014, 11:54:07 am

OP wins his own tipping game  8)

Incorrect.

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: redria on April 29, 2014, 11:56:52 am

Quote from: GeoRmr on April 29, 2014, 11:54:07 am

OP wins his own tipping game  8)

Nuuu Sunderland won. I just never rearranged the names. Whenever the OP gets updated it will have the full history along with a (sorted) final standings. :P

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: GeoRmr on April 29, 2014, 11:57:30 am

oop, my bad i just tl;dr =P

Title: Re: Sky League Tipping Thread
Post by: Levi mann on May 12, 2014, 04:17:09 pm

i got 9th for my one post lol