Guns Of Icarus Online
Community => Community Events => Topic started by: Morbie on November 06, 2013, 02:06:05 pm
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Hello everybody and welcome to the Season 1 invitational tournament. You've all been fighting it out in the skies over the past few months to get here, and now it's time to but everything to the test and win some sweet sweet prizes.
Everybody that participates will get a badge, and the better that you score, the shinier the badge will be. On top of that we have some truly awesome things lined up for you, like naming npc's.
So when is this tournament? The tournament is held on the weekend of November 23rd and 24th.
What time is it? The events will start at 1pmEST each day, so make sure to have your team ready for that.
So it's two days? Yes. Day one is an eliminator round robin event, followed by a bracket stage on day two, where the teams that made it out of day one still flying will fight for the top spot.
How do I know if my team is in it? Team captains will be emailed over the coming days with an invitation to the tournament.
Teams in so far:
Ducks
Zill’s Merry Men
CakeWatch
The Bully Boys
The Celestial Dragons
Museosaurus
Aeronautical Knights
Glowwater Thralls
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Hey
on september 27th I asked in this thread if you could change our clan/team name https://gunsoficarus.com/community/forum/index.php/topic,1868.75.html
it was never updated.
I read the rules again and it says that corvus was amongst the 10 teams with highest points, who gets automatic access.
It would make my team so sad if we dont get to change our name from corvus to glowwater Thralls.
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YES OH SO SAD! :'(
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Wait, this is still happening? I kind of figured this season was just abandoned. Not that I'm complaining, I do want the shiny badges.
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Hey
on september 27th I asked in this thread if you could change our clan/team name https://gunsoficarus.com/community/forum/index.php/topic,1868.75.html
it was never updated.
I read the rules again and it says that corvus was amongst the 10 teams with highest points, who gets automatic access.
It would make my team so sad if we dont get to change our name from corvus to glowwater Thralls.
Updating Corvus to Glowwater Thralls now. Sorry about that. I've been away for a month.
Wait, this is still happening? I kind of figured this season was just abandoned. Not that I'm complaining, I do want the shiny badges.
It is indeed still happening. THings have died down a bit with me being in europe last month, but I'm back and we're doing this. And season 2 will be far better now that we actually have all the groundwork in place.
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Hey
on september 27th I asked in this thread if you could change our clan/team name https://gunsoficarus.com/community/forum/index.php/topic,1868.75.html
it was never updated.
I read the rules again and it says that corvus was amongst the 10 teams with highest points, who gets automatic access.
It would make my team so sad if we dont get to change our name from corvus to glowwater Thralls.
Updating Corvus to Glowwater Thralls now. Sorry about that. I've been away for a month.
Wait, this is still happening? I kind of figured this season was just abandoned. Not that I'm complaining, I do want the shiny badges.
It is indeed still happening. THings have died down a bit with me being in europe last month, but I'm back and we're doing this. And season 2 will be far better now that we actually have all the groundwork in place.
Np morbie, I saw we was updated as thralls on the standings slides so on. was just a bit confusing.-
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since there is less than 2 weeks when are we going to vote for teeams who did not make the top 10?
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Can we also get a list of what clans are in?
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How do I know if my team is in it? Team captains will be emailed over the coming days with an invitation to the tournament.
Knowing would be nice, so we can prepare with availabilities.
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what is this being based upon? in other words why would one team be invited and not another?
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https://gunsoficarus.com/community/forum/index.php/topic,1868.0.html
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oooo got ya this is a cogs like thing
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I wouldn't say it's a huge amount like Cogs.
But anyways, I guess you wouldn't qualify yet seeing as your team didn't participate in the system, but according to the rules the community's going to get a chance to vote for two teams that they'd like to see participating.
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o cool! it was the "scrimmage for points" thing right?
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And fun, but yeah. They got perceived as being just "for points"
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Yay for teams that have people who can't make both days.
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um, so we Rhinos are interested in the tournament, but I didn't keep track of our scrimmage record (like most other clans didn't judging the standings (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArCXRuoOqVIMdHU4akg0UkV5REpzb3JtR3lRbFNzcWc&usp=sharing#gid=11)). Is it still possible to add points to the table?
Just summing up the points we've gained during urz tournaments (http://cesports.challonge.com/) would catapult us to rank 2 of the list, even without taking the underdog modifier into account.
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um, so we Rhinos are interested in the tournament, but I didn't keep track of our scrimmage record (like most other clans didn't judging the standings (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArCXRuoOqVIMdHU4akg0UkV5REpzb3JtR3lRbFNzcWc&usp=sharing#gid=11)). Is it still possible to add points to the table?
Just summing up the points we've gained during urz tournaments (http://cesports.challonge.com/) would catapult us to rank 2 of the list, even without taking the underdog modifier into account.
I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure the season ended on the 11th, thus points can no longer be submitted. I can empathize since I had also been slacking and not submitting points from scrims and the rumble.
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um, so we Rhinos are interested in the tournament, but I didn't keep track of our scrimmage record (like most other clans didn't judging the standings (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArCXRuoOqVIMdHU4akg0UkV5REpzb3JtR3lRbFNzcWc&usp=sharing#gid=11)). Is it still possible to add points to the table?
Just summing up the points we've gained during urz tournaments (http://cesports.challonge.com/) would catapult us to rank 2 of the list, even without taking the underdog modifier into account.
Also, afaik, unless both teams agreed on it beforehand, the Rumbles and the Anvalan wouldn't automatically be added as points.
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This is my issue with this entire system.
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Whats the issue? Both teams agreeing before hand to count it as points?
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I think a lot of teams would climb higher if they was awarded points from unagreed point scrimmages
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Currently just waiting for some messages from a few people have gotten back to me confirming they will or will not be there. Will have the list posted once it is concrete.
If you haven't gotten back to me about your teams attendance, please do so asap.
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um, so we Rhinos are interested in the tournament, but I didn't keep track of our scrimmage record (like most other clans didn't judging the standings (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArCXRuoOqVIMdHU4akg0UkV5REpzb3JtR3lRbFNzcWc&usp=sharing#gid=11)). Is it still possible to add points to the table?
Just summing up the points we've gained during urz tournaments (http://cesports.challonge.com/) would catapult us to rank 2 of the list, even without taking the underdog modifier into account.
Urz Tournaments were always a standalone thing from this as Urz wanted to go his own way. You can still get in via the poll that will be happening later today though.
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that's silly...
counting the scoreboard points and comparing it to the number of sunday rumble/avalan matches suggests that urz events frame roughly half of our communities scrims.
I'd really like to see urz adding a clause to his tournament rule set forcing all participants to agree on letting their encounters count for this system.
regarding our standing: if it's still possible to add points for matches which have taken place in the past, I'd like to state our cog match vs Gents (week 6) wasn't counted yet and we've won a cog match by forfeit against polaris in the same week.
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that's silly...
counting the scoreboard points and comparing it to the number of sunday rumble/avalan matches suggests that urz events frame roughly half of our communities scrims.
I'd really like to see urz adding a clause to his tournament rule set forcing all participants to agree on letting their encounters count for this system.
regarding our standing: if it's still possible to add points for matches which have taken place in the past, I'd like to state our cog match vs Gents (week 6) wasn't counted yet and we've won a cog match by forfeit against polaris in the same week.
I always thought he should have added himself to the system too. Just makes sense that people would get points for their competitive matches regardless of where they have them.
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that's silly...
counting the scoreboard points and comparing it to the number of sunday rumble/avalan matches suggests that urz events frame roughly half of our communities scrims.
I'd really like to see urz adding a clause to his tournament rule set forcing all participants to agree on letting their encounters count for this system.
Uh.... how about no? Forcing it on people is literally the worst.
regarding our standing: if it's still possible to add points for matches which have taken place in the past, I'd like to state our cog match vs Gents (week 6) wasn't counted yet and we've won a cog match by forfeit against polaris in the same week.
Stop blaming everyone else. If you cared at all you would've sent in screenshots like the document asked you. You did not, thus your potential points weren't counted, deal with it.
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Uh.... how about no? Forcing it on people is literally the worst.
What's the downside of such a cruel oppression of our Clans wills? I've got a hard time to imagine a scenario where I could see someone might possibly state "what?- If I win matches in this tournament I get points which count towards an official league system and if I don't win I will not loose anything?- that's a no go, I'm out!"
Stop blaming everyone else. If you cared at all you would've sent in screenshots like the document asked you. You did not, thus your potential points weren't counted, deal with it.
I did not blame anyone. I've asked whether it's possible to hand in scores after seasons end, because I didn't find a paragraph addressing this issue in the rules or the op of the community events thread.
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I did not blame anyone. I've asked whether it's possible to hand in scores after seasons end, because I didn't find a paragraph addressing this issue in the rules or the op of the community events thread.
I understand the annoyance here, but sadly we can't accept the points at this stage because everything is so far planned out that we can't go back. The ball is in motion, as it were. As stated earlier, you can still get in via the poll. Just get all your team to vote on that, then convince others to do so as well.
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Uh.... how about no? Forcing it on people is literally the worst.
What's the downside of such a cruel oppression of our Clans wills? I've got a hard time to imagine a scenario where I could see someone might possibly state "what?- If I win matches in this tournament I get points which count towards an official league system and if I don't win I will not loose anything?- that's a no go, I'm out!"
Because what if some team doesn't have their main group playing, maybe has a couple of subs? The rumble has usually been the more relaxed type tournament where people bring maybe not their entire main team, or maybe they're just experimenting with different builds and don't want points to be at stake? Plenty of reasons.
Stop blaming everyone else. If you cared at all you would've sent in screenshots like the document asked you. You did not, thus your potential points weren't counted, deal with it.
I did not blame anyone. I've asked whether it's possible to hand in scores after seasons end, because I didn't find a paragraph addressing this issue in the rules or the op of the community events thread.
I mean, people said no, and then you kept on pushing it so....
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Please drop the pointless argument in here. It isn't helping anything along.
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Stop blaming everyone else. If you cared at all you would've sent in screenshots like the document asked you. You did not, thus your potential points weren't counted, deal with it.
I did not blame anyone. I've asked whether it's possible to hand in scores after seasons end, because I didn't find a paragraph addressing this issue in the rules or the op of the community events thread.
I mean, people said no, and then you kept on pushing it so....
People stated their opinion on that matter. None of them pointed out a rule conflict. Hence the Issue has not been resolved until Morbies statement. Regarding your conclusions about me blaming people: I strongly suggest you focus on reading the lines rather than in between them before wording wild accusations.
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I Think the rules of this Was pretty clear and that both teams had to agree. There wasnt the biggest point Hunt from most teams however You yourself were in charge of accumulating points.
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One of the issues is that many in the community saw points as meaning serious which of course can't be fun. However, the system is not really a zero sum scenario wherein one teams gains and the one loses but instead a scenario in which one team gains and the other stays the same. In other words, don't only agree to scrims after you have assured victory, have some fun and the worst case scenario is you are no different having played than having not played.
Regarding events, I don't think any event, be it a Muse event otherwise, is automatically counted unless a Screenshot is sent in. From my understanding screenshots could've just been sent in from events like the SR and the AC and anything thrown together as long as the event meets the guidelines.
Its a pretty laid back system really.
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To get back on topic, because the communication for this tournament is poor: the Gents are not participating. I don't know how many times I have to say that. You can ask the Mad Hatters if they want to (if that's allowed).
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One of the issues is that many in the community saw points as meaning serious which of course can't be fun. However, the system is not really a zero sum scenario wherein one teams gains and the one loses but instead a scenario in which one team gains and the other stays the same. In other words, don't only agree to scrims after you have assured victory, have some fun and the worst case scenario is you are no different having played than having not played.
I disagree somewhat on this point. Two teams can only scrim with eachother for points once per week. Therefore, when the two teams play a points scrim, they'll obviously both want to be ready and at their best, and they'll want to have firmly set down the parameters of the scrim with eachother. A large (but not the only) reason we ended up not having more ranked scrims is that it was problematic for many teams agreeing on a time that would be good for everyone concerned.
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To get back on topic, because the communication for this tournament is poor: the Gents are not participating. I don't know how many times I have to say that. You can ask the Mad Hatters if they want to (if that's allowed).
Personally I don't understand what you mean, all of the information on the end season tournament has been in the scrimmage rules since before I even started playing, it always has been there. Anyone who actively took part in the scrimmage season should have known this was coming this month and what was happening and how it was going to happen. Can you please clarify what you mean by communication so that maybe a situation like this can be avoided in season 2?
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I mean that the tournament coordinators have yet to contact me formally. I keep getting updates via other officers of the Gentlemen.
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I mean that the tournament coordinators have yet to contact me formally. I keep getting updates via other officers of the Gentlemen.
Oh wow, do you have your personal contact information listed on the scrimmage google doc? I think invites went out either on steam or through e-mail, so if no information was listed that might have been the only way to get an invite to you directly.
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Squash had simply forwarded me the message as he was the one on the contact list.
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I mean that the tournament coordinators have yet to contact me formally. I keep getting updates via other officers of the Gentlemen.
Oh wow, do you have your personal contact information listed on the scrimmage google doc? I think invites went out either on steam or through e-mail, so if no information was listed that might have been the only way to get an invite to you directly.
This document does not seem readily accessible. I cannot find links to it anywhere.
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I mean that the tournament coordinators have yet to contact me formally. I keep getting updates via other officers of the Gentlemen.
Oh wow, do you have your personal contact information listed on the scrimmage google doc? I think invites went out either on steam or through e-mail, so if no information was listed that might have been the only way to get an invite to you directly.
This document does not seem readily accessible. I cannot find links to it anywhere.
It's linked in a thread stickied at the top of Community Events.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArCXRuoOqVIMdHU4akg0UkV5REpzb3JtR3lRbFNzcWc&usp=sharing
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I mean that the tournament coordinators have yet to contact me formally. I keep getting updates via other officers of the Gentlemen.
I sent the invite to Captain Roy (Who, for the record, gave me a 'yes'), because to the best of my knowledge, he would pass it along to the correct team lead, as the gents do seem to mix it up a bit (There are 4 different contacts listed on my tracking document and I grabbed the top one).
My immense apologies regarding the mix up here, but we understand if the Gentlemen wish to retract their past 'yes'.
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Alright I updated the contact info for the Gents team. We also have a second team with separate info.
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Alright I updated the contact info for the Gents team. We also have a second team with separate info.
Under this system, you can't have multiple teams. If they're a completely different clan, sure, but you can't have two different Gents teams (no matter what you call them) getting points.
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I know, that's why I didn't give it. We're not in it anyway, until the rules change.
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I know, that's why I didn't give it. We're not in it anyway, until the rules change.
What rules do you want changed?
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CakeWartch
Slight mistype there: "CakeWatch"
What time is it? The events will start at 1pm each day, so make sure to have your team ready for that.
1pm UTC I presume? (https://gunsoficarus.com/community/forum/index.php/topic,2559.0.html) :P
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That is actually an impressive typo of mine. I'm purely that skillful.
And it's 1pmEST.
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what ruleset are we following?
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This will be going by season 1 rules, not the new set.
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http://gunsoficarus.com/competitive-scene/competitive-scene-tourament/
So these rules? An initial round robin and then a elimination tier.
When will we know the groups for the RR?
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http://gunsoficarus.com/competitive-scene/competitive-scene-tourament/
So these rules? An initial round robin and then a elimination tier.
When will we know the groups for the RR?
Those rules indeed. The Round Robin groups will be going up on Wednesday
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You know, in some parts of the world. It is currently Wednesday. The anticipation is killing me!