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Title: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: N-Sunderland on July 30, 2013, 03:27:43 pm
http://www.fpsguru.com/game/357/article/3566/Exclusive-Guns-of-Icarus-Online-Adventure-Mode-Preview.html

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The last thing I heard a little here, a little there on, was a new weapon. Currently they're working on a new weapon and the name floating around is the Magma Weapon. Although Howard Tsao stated it won't be the official name, it's something in the works currently. Personally I can't quite imagine what the “Magma Weapon” could lead to. Are we talking something similar to the flamethrower or a fireball? Who knows?
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Sgt. Spoon on July 30, 2013, 04:31:19 pm
Oh... hell yeah

Good find Sund
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: James T. Kirk on July 30, 2013, 05:14:25 pm
It's like all my hopes and dreams are coming true!
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: N-Sunderland on July 30, 2013, 05:19:07 pm
I can only imagine the Cake Galleons...
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: James T. Kirk on July 30, 2013, 06:07:27 pm
You guys are gonna need Chem Spray AND Extinguishers.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: shadowsteel on July 30, 2013, 06:14:04 pm
That just gave me an idea that would make bringing Chem and Ext viable. Allow Chem to work on an Ext cooldown!

A dedicated fireman might be needed with fire making a comeback and now with this new 'Magma Cannon' ( i know it only says weapon but this sounds way better).
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: LordFunPants on July 30, 2013, 06:31:58 pm
oh. . .well then. . .
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: N-Sunderland on July 30, 2013, 06:37:16 pm
I suppose FPSGuru is going to get a strongly worded e-mail about why not to leak details about future content?
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: LordFunPants on July 30, 2013, 06:40:31 pm
well, gives me an excuse to tease you guys as always with what i'm currently working on. . . obviously, the "magma cannon" is a cannon made of hot liquid magma. . . that can only be used if someone chem sprays it before hand
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Demigo on July 30, 2013, 06:49:37 pm
I don't care about your stinking "Magma Cannon"!! I need a big gun with like 2 to 4 gatlings mounted on it to go with my heavy flack!!
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Captain Smollett on July 30, 2013, 06:50:24 pm
Based on the leaked damage stats last month it'll be worth it (you know what I'm talking about anyone that kept a close eye on the weapon spreadsheet).
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Sammy B. T. on July 30, 2013, 06:55:10 pm
I am imagining something akin to the flamer but it has a crazy downward arc.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: N-Sunderland on July 30, 2013, 06:56:42 pm
Based on the leaked damage stats last month it'll be worth it (you know what I'm talking about anyone that kept a close eye on the weapon spreadsheet).

I've forgotten the exact damage numbers, but it was fire-piercing, right?
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Captain Smollett on July 30, 2013, 07:09:00 pm
Yes, but with a hefty amount of fire damage.  If one were to assume it was a rapid fire weapon (which the damage numbers indicated could be possible) then it would brutalize heavily: balloons, armor and permahull making a weapon that could single handedly make a kill on it's own while also destroying the balloon.  Almost like a super carronade with incendiary rounds.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Demigo on July 30, 2013, 08:09:27 pm
Mi wants it now!! Giv mi!!
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Keon on July 31, 2013, 02:35:03 am
(http://i37.servimg.com/u/f37/17/26/32/15/magma10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=57&u=17263215)

BUUUUURRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!

BURN IT ALLLL!!!!

HAHAHAHHAHA!!!!
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Zenark on July 31, 2013, 10:39:03 am
OMG, Keon... I love you.

MUSE......... You're about to make Cake a very happy clan, and everyone else very unhappy >:D
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: James T. Kirk on July 31, 2013, 11:42:04 am
Once this thing comes out, watch for 2v2 Cake lobbies containing the good ship "IMMA FIRN'" and the U.S.S "MAI MAGMA CANNON"

(Also, Keon, you just earned a salute from every Pastry on the forum)
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: N-Sunderland on July 31, 2013, 11:44:02 am
So what's a Cake Galleon currently like? Quad incendiary carronades with a left side banshee?
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Zenark on July 31, 2013, 12:56:44 pm
Once this thing comes out, watch for 2v2 Cake lobbies containing the good ship "IMMA FIRN'" and the U.S.S "MAI MAGMA CANNON"

(Also, Keon, you just earned a salute from every Pastry on the forum)

I'll be I'MMA FIRIN!
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: James T. Kirk on July 31, 2013, 03:37:53 pm
And Sunderland, Cake Galleons now are pretty basic. Sniper side and Brawler side.
Gunners are just asked to bring incendiary rounds as opposed to charged for mid-range.

-edit- This is just my Galleon. We don't have restrictions in Cake, just suggested loadouts.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Sgt. Spoon on July 31, 2013, 04:18:21 pm
Oh god Keon. That's just...


Epic
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Surette on July 31, 2013, 05:26:41 pm
Why are we assuming it's a heavy gun?
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: -Muse- Cullen on July 31, 2013, 05:31:31 pm
Why are we assuming it's a heavy gun?
Cos OBVIOUSLY Muse would be insane to make it a light weapon.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Shinkurex on July 31, 2013, 05:34:52 pm
knowing Howard and his harpoon build.... entirely possible :P
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: HamsterIV on July 31, 2013, 05:36:39 pm
Muse has shunned the traditional Publisher/Developer financing model, created a multiplayer only game with virtually no tutorial, and is using hats as a secondary source of income. As far as I am concerned Muse is already insane.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: RearAdmiralZill on July 31, 2013, 05:37:42 pm
Magmamidions?
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Sammy B. T. on July 31, 2013, 06:23:48 pm
Magmobulas
Magmunkers
Magmires
Magmuid
Magmalleon
Magmish
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Echoez on July 31, 2013, 07:05:27 pm
(http://www.davidpaulkirkpatrick.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Facebook-Want-Button.jpg)
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: LordFunPants on July 31, 2013, 10:32:56 pm
Cos OBVIOUSLY Muse would be insane to make it a light weapon.

obviously, and not just that but muse would be even more insane if they had more then one gun planned. . . . . maybe even another one called. . . the Snowman Catapult. . to compliment the Magma Cannon
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: James T. Kirk on August 01, 2013, 12:09:28 am
Nah.

I'll stick with Magma.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Captain Smollett on August 01, 2013, 01:12:16 am
How about an optional skin for the snowman catapult that instead fires angry ducks that fly at the enemy ships and pecks at their balloons?
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Keon on August 01, 2013, 01:16:37 am
Lumberjack, bro. Flechete, right?
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Captain Smollett on August 01, 2013, 01:18:48 am
Now that would be intimidating.  The Lucky Duck firing angry mallards across the map at your balloon.  You'd hear the quacking get closer and closer until it smacked against the fragile gas bag sending the ship plummeting to the ground.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Zenark on August 01, 2013, 09:21:28 am
Now that would be intimidating.  The Lucky Duck firing angry mallards across the map at your balloon.  You'd hear the quacking get closer and closer until it smacked against the fragile gas bag sending the ship plummeting to the ground.

Angry Birds: Airship Edition
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Surette on August 01, 2013, 02:19:47 pm
Cos OBVIOUSLY Muse would be insane to make it a light weapon.
obviously, and not just that but muse would be even more insane if they had more then one gun planned. . . . .

Sounds to me like pretty good confirmation that it's a light weapon and there are multiple guns planned.  :P
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Echoez on August 01, 2013, 04:43:37 pm
Aww.. no heavy flamer? all of my excitement is gone T .T
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: N-Sunderland on August 13, 2013, 12:09:38 am
So, Keyvias mentioned the magma gun again in the Steam Group...

http://steamcommunity.com/app/209080/discussions/0/846960628583434421

Quote from: Keyvias
A huge feature is coming up soon. We're fixing up the database so it all works out right now.
Plus we're working on a new weapon the magma gun!

But I'm more intrigued by this "huge feature". I honestly have no idea what it could be...
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Lord Dick Tim on August 13, 2013, 01:43:56 am
I remember a conversation some time ago about giant balls of fire being launched at one another.  Why do I remember this... hmm...

So, I can see this being Fun, in the dwarf fortress sense of Fun lol.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Piemanlives on August 13, 2013, 01:52:06 am
I want to BURN EVERYTHING!
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Calico Jack on August 13, 2013, 08:35:17 am
so wait I floated the idea of incendiary boby traps which nobody liked (cos they kept tripping over the word tar on the way in) and now the suggestion of a new flame weapons gets thumbs up? Looks like I need your approach N Sunderland :)
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: LordFunPants on August 13, 2013, 12:42:47 pm
you know. . . i must say. . . this gun. . . is frightening. . . purely from a conceptual perspective. . and thats all i'm saying about that
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Zenark on August 13, 2013, 12:49:35 pm
Frightening? >:D

Cake... This might possibly be our new signature weapon.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: James T. Kirk on August 13, 2013, 02:24:35 pm
All hail funpants!

Lololololololololololololololo!
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: LordFunPants on August 13, 2013, 02:28:46 pm
hey now, i'm not the one who came up with the concept of this thing. . . dont know why i'm getting the hails, i just get to make it look badass based on what it does :P
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: James T. Kirk on August 13, 2013, 05:23:31 pm
And THAT is why you're getting the hails.

The name of "Cake" shall be feared throughout the game!

Until they see us play, that is.  :P

(By the way, who's idea was this? I need to send them a box of doughnuts or something.)
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Piemanlives on August 13, 2013, 06:16:05 pm
Cake will be feared, because of our silly love of burning things :P
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Swizy on August 14, 2013, 08:06:18 am
I demand pics for proof of concept.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: LordFunPants on August 14, 2013, 09:44:30 am
i'm sure someone will eventually leak a picture or two . . . . i'm actually gonna try to test the model today to see if it works well. when Awkm saw it he thought it was a  heavy gun for a second . . . 
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Zenark on August 14, 2013, 10:31:19 am
... So it's a light gun? Or is it really a medium gun and you're hinting that an actual heavy gun is in the works?

Secrets <3
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Swizy on August 14, 2013, 10:36:13 am
LordFunPants teasing us for his own enjoyment. What a cruel individual...
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: LordFunPants on August 14, 2013, 10:42:03 am
if it was one of those massive guns. i'd probably have to make a new ship for it . . . and if i made a ship for it, . . id make it a muse only ship . . . . cause dev matches man. . need something to make it interesting
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Swizy on August 14, 2013, 10:46:58 am
I will find you mister pants, you won't see it coming
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: N-Sunderland on August 14, 2013, 10:48:58 am
Fixed the thread title, just to avoid confusion...
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works? Heavy Flamethrower?
Post by: Surette on August 14, 2013, 07:02:01 pm
... So it's a light gun? Or is it really a medium gun and you're hinting that an actual heavy gun is in the works?

Secrets <3
It seemed obvious that it was a light gun after the "well OBVIOUSLY Muse would be insane to make it a heavy gun..." response earlier in the thread. Hyperbole, man.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: -Muse- Cullen on August 14, 2013, 08:00:59 pm
Pfft, a new dev-only ship. What a silly thought. It'd probably be something absurd like a cabin attached to a Skywhale's back with the Magma Cannon front and center...
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Keon on August 14, 2013, 08:48:59 pm
::gimme skywhaleMagmaLazorUberMuseShipOfDoom.

That's the secret magma ship lazor uber muse ship of doom command.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Shinkurex on August 14, 2013, 08:59:13 pm
KEON!!!!! see this is why they never give us CAs nice things
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Keon on August 14, 2013, 11:38:55 pm
oh shoot i thought i was posting in the private super secret ninja hideout forum that we have at gunsoficarusreallyawesomecaguys.awesome/blatantly/not/a/webside.html
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Keon on August 14, 2013, 11:42:38 pm
Also, back on topic maybe? What would a new fire weapon do? Besides, y'know, be used by cake.

A fire-piercing damage combo might be cool, same with a fire flechette. Or fire-shatter. Fire-explosive would probably be able to solo ships a bit too well, because with the fire you could take out armor pretty well.

What if it changed damage types as the magma cooled, so at very close range it did incredibly high amounts of fire damage and lots of fire charge, but as the range increased, it would turn into a good AOE shatter weapon or something? I really have no idea how something like that could work, but a arming time changing the actual damage type of a weapon would be extremely cool.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Piemanlives on August 15, 2013, 12:24:20 am
I never thought of the arming time being used that way, it's kind of genius once you think about it.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: James T. Kirk on August 15, 2013, 01:00:49 am
Fire-explosive would probably be able to solo ships a bit too well, because with the fire you could take out armor pretty well.

Banshee OP. Nerf please.

Joking aside, if this does turn into a dual purpose weapon like the ones we already have, the secondary purpose will probably be marginal.

Because what's the point of a Carronade when Magma does only a slightly worse job at close range, but with the added chaos factor of fire?

Chances are, it would just go the route of the Banshee: technically useful, but overshadowed by single-purpose weapons.

THAT is why I want to see this new weapon also give us a new application method of the fire. A lobbed ball of inferno? A liquid stream of combustion?

Damage changing at ranges would be an excellent addition to this, and could definitely spice up gameplay.

Know what I REALLY want to see this become?
A high-skill/high-reward fire weapon.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Piemanlives on August 15, 2013, 01:09:48 am
What will cake be? The masters of flame that's what!
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Calico Jack on August 15, 2013, 02:14:45 am
Well I'm still holding out  for being able to lay booby traps of fire all over the map.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Swizy on August 15, 2013, 02:53:37 am
(http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/9695/godlyof0.jpg)

one of these pls. You can size it down if ya want
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Piemanlives on August 15, 2013, 03:15:27 am
(http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/9695/godlyof0.jpg)

one of these pls. You can size it down if ya want

(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/273/289/b5a.png)

That is glorious
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Ccrack on August 15, 2013, 05:06:21 am
what about the ability to ignite tar clouds to deal damage / remove the tar
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Spud Nick on August 15, 2013, 05:10:40 am
Explosive damage with a fire AOE? or fire damage with a explosive AOE? What does cake prefer?
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Piemanlives on August 15, 2013, 05:19:16 am
I'm more for the first one really.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Calico Jack on August 15, 2013, 06:06:47 am
what about the ability to ignite tar clouds to deal damage / remove the tar

the word tar used in this sense seems to provoke people in unpredictable ways :D

https://gunsoficarus.com/community/forum/index.php/topic,1706.msg30295.html#msg30295
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Zenark on August 15, 2013, 09:59:10 am
I want to see fire rain from the clouds as Cake flies three ships outfitted with noting but this weapon. The flames overwhelming the enemy ships to the point of total chaos and fear.

Cake will be scorched into the slate of history as we set the skies ablaze.

Mu haw haw haw!
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: LordFunPants on August 15, 2013, 10:13:10 am
i actually almost had a teaser picture to show you of a quick test i did . . . but then i found i had to make some changes. , . had to make it a bit smaller since it was to big . . .
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Keon on August 15, 2013, 10:37:07 am
Smaller? But whyyyyyy??? D:
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Calico Jack on August 15, 2013, 10:50:56 am
Smaller? But whyyyyyy??? D:

it wouldn't fit on the whale
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: James T. Kirk on August 15, 2013, 10:52:43 am
i actually almost had a teaser picture to show you of a quick test i did . . . but then i found i had to make some changes. , . had to make it a bit smaller bigger since it was to big small . . .

Fixed it.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: LordFunPants on August 15, 2013, 10:53:49 am
i was actually writing a reasonable explanation of why. . . but i think calico jack hit it spot on
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Keon on August 15, 2013, 11:51:39 am
So, teaser image? Just rescale the image in photoshop. :P
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: LordFunPants on August 15, 2013, 04:08:44 pm
i was trying to take a good pic but this was the best one i could take for reasons . . . work in progress obviously, . things always change. . disclaimer

edit. . and the attachment didn't work? oh well

(http://www.filedump.net/dumped/workinprogresshot1376597232.jpg)
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Zenark on August 15, 2013, 04:17:59 pm
O.O
Is that a heat shield? And a fancy tank.... Looks like a napalm canister.

And judging by how high that AI is aiming, this thing has a significant bullet (magma ball?) with really long range o.o

So want.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Ccrack on August 15, 2013, 04:20:19 pm
its obviously a septic tank so you can spray shit all over your opponents
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: N-Sunderland on August 15, 2013, 04:21:35 pm
Hoooollllyyy crap, that thing looks cool. And freaking huge.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: James T. Kirk on August 15, 2013, 04:22:59 pm
It looks like a hammer. <3
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Piemanlives on August 15, 2013, 04:26:34 pm
Fire hammer me thinks? Anyways that looks pretty cool, can't wait to see it in action.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Zenark on August 15, 2013, 04:30:05 pm
The Blacksmith Magma Cannon <3
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Captain Smollett on August 15, 2013, 04:30:58 pm
That... looks... awesome!!!!!
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Swizy on August 15, 2013, 04:38:48 pm
it looks like something i didn't know i wanted it really bad
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Squidslinger Gilder on August 15, 2013, 05:01:17 pm
Goodness gracious great balls of fire...

Does it fire superheated remains of trolls that we've stuffed into the cannon after they refused to stop trolling? Please? Pretty Please with puppy dog eyes? ;D
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Piemanlives on August 15, 2013, 05:13:04 pm
^Can that be an ammo type?!
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Sgt. Spoon on August 15, 2013, 05:34:49 pm
Oh god yes
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: James T. Kirk on August 16, 2013, 04:02:04 pm
Unless I misunderstood, Muse just said (on the stream) that the Holy Magma Weapon will be fire/piercing!

Huzzah! Banshee/Magma for new Meta!
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Echoez on August 16, 2013, 05:37:59 pm
Muse just said (on the stream) that the Holy Magma Weapon will be fire/piercing!

...

Realy?...
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Captain Vimes on August 16, 2013, 06:46:40 pm
I don't care if it's good. I'm just chomping at the bit for a fire breathing Goldfish! So stoked!
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: N-Sunderland on August 16, 2013, 07:06:19 pm
Muse just said (on the stream) that the Holy Magma Weapon will be fire/piercing!

...

Realy?...

Yeah, that was actually leaked a couple of months ago...
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Captain Smollett on August 16, 2013, 08:55:05 pm
@Captain Vines

I'm afraid your goldfish will have to shoot fire from it's ears. The magma cannon is purported to be a light weapon.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Captain Vimes on August 16, 2013, 09:34:15 pm
Damn. I naturally assumed it would fill the need for fiery goodness in the medium guns slot.

Aw well, I'll probably still slap it on a goldfish or squid for some shenanigans.

(edit: if I ever serve on your ship, I'll change my name to Jim Hawkins :) )
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Echoez on August 16, 2013, 09:37:24 pm
Whatever it is, I'm putting it on my Spire and I will then name it Magmire.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Piemanlives on August 16, 2013, 09:56:10 pm
The Devs are away, the Cake will bake.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: James T. Kirk on August 16, 2013, 10:01:39 pm
What about Cullen?

He's both.

Anyway.

Magma + Banshee. It's gonna be annoying.
And I'm going to love it.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Captain Smollett on August 17, 2013, 01:28:14 am
(edit: if I ever serve on your ship, I'll change my name to Jim Hawkins :) )

That sir would be awesome.  Saluted!
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Piemanlives on August 17, 2013, 01:32:15 am
(edit: if I ever serve on your ship, I'll change my name to Jim Hawkins :) )

That sir would be awesome.  Saluted!

References everywhere! :P
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Surette on August 17, 2013, 09:10:42 am
Yeah, that was actually leaked a couple of months ago...
Yeah, thought the fire/piercing part was already common knowledge. Whoops.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Serenum on August 17, 2013, 09:20:11 am
Wait... ANOTHER light weapon? ???
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Shinkurex on August 17, 2013, 09:30:07 am
Yup.... The Magma Cannon is a light weapon. Although! Word on the grapevine (*cough* Lordfunpants *cough*)... is that there may be 3 weapons that they are working on......... man, I must be coming down with something
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: LordFunPants on August 17, 2013, 10:07:06 am
3? i heard 4 . . . ,maybe 5!

actually to be honest we're always making new guns/ships/maps/super secret adventure mode stuff, wont be stopping anytime soon. its just a matter of how fast we can make these things between all the craziness going on and toss them out for you guys to play with them. but for all intensive purposes, make believe i said nothing so new things are actually fun surprises every month/other month/whenever.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Serenum on August 17, 2013, 11:51:48 am
Well... That's fine I guess... A new toy to play with...
But I can't deny that I'm a bit disappointed, there is a ton of light weapons for almost every role, the "only light weapon mounts" ships are already the most competitive out there (except maybe the Goldfish) and we already got the Phobos as a new light weapon... I was really looking foward to a new heavy weapon to put a bit more variety in Galleon builds.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: James T. Kirk on August 17, 2013, 12:06:28 pm
Are the weapons in the Concept Art area any indication?

Or are those abandoned projects?
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: LordFunPants on August 17, 2013, 04:01:17 pm
thats difficult to say really, the older the concept the less likely it'll probably be used as is in the game mostly because the game has evolved a couple of thousand times since we started, and mind you im' answering this specifically in terms of guns and nothing else.the reason is mostly because the old guns were designed with very very different gameplay and visual requirements in mind. but that doesn't really exclude us from using it as inspiration in some way shape or form eventually and making sort of a "version 2" of it that works in the game in its current form.  dont really think that answered your questioned since this was more just an overly complicated "maybe, maybe not" :P
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: James T. Kirk on August 17, 2013, 04:17:20 pm
Well, thanks anyway!

Can't wait to use that hammer----

I mean Magma Weapon.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Keon on August 17, 2013, 04:48:29 pm
thats difficult to say really, the older the concept the less likely it'll probably be used as is in the game mostly because the game has evolved a couple of thousand times since we started, and mind you im' answering this specifically in terms of guns and nothing else.the reason is mostly because the old guns were designed with very very different gameplay and visual requirements in mind. but that doesn't really exclude us from using it as inspiration in some way shape or form eventually and making sort of a "version 2" of it that works in the game in its current form.  dont really think that answered your questioned since this was more just an overly complicated "maybe, maybe not" :P


Two minutes later: Sun cannon confirmed for 1.4
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: TimTim LaBaguette on August 17, 2013, 07:50:58 pm
well, the searchlight and crane really got me intrigued, but I guess it's more likely to see something like this in adventure than in skirmish.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Captain Smollett on August 17, 2013, 07:56:01 pm
Well, for the record I'd like to state I think the Galleon is very competitive right now, though I'd love to see more heavy weapons in the game.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Echoez on August 17, 2013, 07:58:34 pm
The Galleon is competitive, but Heavy guns do need some variety so ships other than the Galleon can have some fun as well, especially the Goldfish, seeing as how the heavy gun is what you will be using 99.5% of the time on it.

I'd like to see a Heavy Flamer at some point in any shape or form, or a giant howitzer.. dunno.

Oh and the Tesla guns, why don't have such guns already?
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Piemanlives on August 17, 2013, 08:40:20 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/310693_131329320300939_922079927_n.jpg)

Giant howitzer...............
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: LordFunPants on August 17, 2013, 09:04:19 pm
its when you realize the "village killers" bullets were the size of people . . . then you realize how imbalanced that thing would be. it was pretty cool though cause you see the little i guess scaffolding on the side? when you reload you could see all the internal workings raising the next bullet into place and loading the canon. 

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Two minutes later: Sun cannon confirmed for 1.4

God Lamp to you sir! :P god knows if it'd ever make it into the game on a serious note (i am actually not teasing you . . believe it or not), but if it ever did from a gameplay point of view i'd figure it'd have to be some kind of alternative to the flamethrower , any beam weapon would be really. i always imagined you'd have to adjust the focal length of the of the beam according to the distance of the enemy ships to get the most out of it, and no reload, it'd just over heat with to much use. this is just me thinking out loud more then anything, its a  horribly complicated sounding weapon to implement though if it were to be.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: James T. Kirk on August 17, 2013, 10:07:02 pm

Two minutes later: Sun cannon confirmed for 1.4

Where? When? How?
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Ccrack on August 17, 2013, 10:46:00 pm

God Lamp to you sir! :P god knows if it'd ever make it into the game on a serious note (i am actually not teasing you . . believe it or not), but if it ever did from a gameplay point of view i'd figure it'd have to be some kind of alternative to the flamethrower , any beam weapon would be really. i always imagined you'd have to adjust the focal length of the of the beam according to the distance of the enemy ships to get the most out of it, and no reload, it'd just over heat with to much use. this is just me thinking out loud more then anything, its a  horribly complicated sounding weapon to implement though if it were to be.


what about a still short range flamer, that does a bit more damage and arcs downwards like its spraying liquid fire that pours on to ships below you
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Keon on August 17, 2013, 11:09:53 pm
What? Fire? Have it do shatter damage with rapid rate of fire, low damage but high dps, and a medium-short range. Like a merc but a bit shorter range and not an armor piercer.

Also, in adventure mode, sieges could be developed around trying to get a howitzer carrier into range of a city and ready to fire. Deploying a howitzership would take 10 minutes or so, so defenders would need to take it out.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: LordFunPants on August 17, 2013, 11:20:10 pm
sounds like i should stick some "village killers" on boss ships in adventure mode huh
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Keon on August 17, 2013, 11:24:48 pm
Really cool loading animations with particle effects plz
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Saull on August 19, 2013, 01:06:58 am
any quotes on how this new gun might work? personally my dream mechanics would have it be a low to moderate damage, semi precision weapon that lets me put fire stacks on specific components. i feel like i dont get to see enough weapons put out of commission due to the fire disable anymore.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Lord Dick Tim on August 19, 2013, 06:50:38 am
I'm hoping this is a long range area burst weapon with a small clip yet medium loading ammo.  Possibly an air burst timed weapon, if it hits at a certain range it does AOE damage, but if it hits within a timer window, like a min/max range it explodes doing piercing/fire.

But this would likely make it to difficult to use, with a bigger clip maybe...  maybe.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Locutus of borg on August 24, 2013, 09:43:22 pm
so when can we expect to be playing this new toy?
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: N-Sunderland on August 24, 2013, 09:46:10 pm
Apparently it's coming in the next major patch.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: LordFunPants on August 24, 2013, 10:41:30 pm
apparently so. last time i worked on it a few days ago i was told "i have plenty of time to finish it" all it needed was some sound effects, a few particles and an icon for selecting it  (of course balancing stuff, but thats not on my end of things . . thankfully >>)

regardless i was planning on showing an updated teaser pic sooner or later, probably next time i'm in the office
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Byron Cavendish on August 24, 2013, 11:15:13 pm
I'm sure it'll blow all our pants off.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: James T. Kirk on September 03, 2013, 08:59:26 pm
Don't worry Magma Weapon!

We haven't forgotten about you!
.
.
.

But it has been a while.

Anyone got any news/rumors?
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Locutus of borg on September 03, 2013, 09:52:49 pm
yes please, what about those fabled teaser pics?
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: LordFunPants on September 03, 2013, 11:47:36 pm
part of the fun of a teaser pic is teasing the teaser pic . . . . ok fine so i got horribly distracted this last week, but i honestly haven't forgotten.. . 
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Letus on September 04, 2013, 05:03:56 pm
All I can think is a Spire with a lumberjack and magma...
and it suddenly looks like this

(http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/8/81/Spr_4p_467.png)
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: James T. Kirk on September 04, 2013, 05:07:31 pm
part of the fun of a teaser pic is teasing the teaser pic...

Yo dawg, heard you like teaser pics....
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: LordFunPants on September 04, 2013, 06:11:59 pm
(http://www.filedump.net/dumped/devilsegg1378332339.jpg)

and i tease  what it actually fires. this is pretty much THE final version of what the gun looks like
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Echoez on September 04, 2013, 06:15:19 pm
Still think it's a shame this was made into a light gun after all, could have been an amazing new Heavy gun if it was just slightly bigger..
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: HamsterIV on September 04, 2013, 06:42:05 pm
Interesting sights you have there, it is like the inverse of the lumber jack sights where the ticks go up as opposed to down. Could this gun have reverse shot drop where the projectile falls upward instead of downward? Considering how much fun I have had with the mine launcher I am looking forward to the amount of mischief I can cause with this new gun.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Zander Broda on September 04, 2013, 06:53:14 pm
wait, its a light gun now?


 :(

i was really looking forward to having more options for my goldfish and galleon.

Now that i really think about it, i suppose balancing heavy weapons has to be hell, conventional thought says that since they're heavy, they need to do more damage, and of the 3 ships that can carry them, only one needs any help.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Echoez on September 04, 2013, 07:00:33 pm
You would be suprised.. the Light carronades actually have more total damage in one clip than the Heavy ones.

and only the Galleon is completely acceptable and doesn't need help, the other two ships could use some variety since they can only realy play with 1 or 2 heavy guns.. out of a total 4.. (3 if you are a Goldfish cause the Heavy Flak simply doesn't work on it)
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Swizy on September 04, 2013, 07:01:45 pm
Aw sweet that is one awesome looking model for a gun dude. I can't wait to get my hands on one of these.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: HamsterIV on September 04, 2013, 07:07:07 pm
I think everything but the flack fish and the carronade spire is viable at some level. I have even seen a carronade spire tear it up once or twice.

Back to new guns, I wouldn't mind an extra medium gun, there hasn't been much added to the large ship meta since arming times.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Echoez on September 04, 2013, 07:49:06 pm
Viable or not I'd realy appreciate something cause it's realy getting boring to run the same old weapons everytime on these ships and you can't even use all 4 of them with the same effectivenes..
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: James T. Kirk on September 04, 2013, 08:10:32 pm
With sights like that, I'm pretty convinced that it shoots in a stream.

<3 new fire weapon.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: LordFunPants on September 04, 2013, 08:42:43 pm
Viable or not I'd realy appreciate something cause it's realy getting boring to run the same old weapons everytime on these ships and you can't even use all 4 of them with the same effectivenes..

yea, i believe in general the current wave of guns are all designed to add some variety to things all around, and considering small guns can fit on any ship they get a bit of priority. with that said i'm sure we'll eventually get to new medium gun sooner or later ( i want some to be honest >>). . though assuming the plan i was told about some time ago doesn't change after this coming patch,. . . you'll probably hate me for another month >>;;;;;;;
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Zander Broda on September 04, 2013, 09:15:47 pm
nobody hates you...yet...we're all really excited for this magma gun!
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Locutus of borg on September 04, 2013, 10:23:51 pm
so is this coming with the patch on the 16th?
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Keon on September 05, 2013, 12:40:26 am
8 shots per clip, looks to have signifigant arc. also has the best dang model ever.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Piemanlives on September 05, 2013, 12:42:17 am
I want this weapon.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Echoez on September 05, 2013, 08:04:41 am
yea, i believe in general the current wave of guns are all designed to add some variety to things all around, and considering small guns can fit on any ship they get a bit of priority. with that said i'm sure we'll eventually get to new medium gun sooner or later ( i want some to be honest >>). . though assuming the plan i was told about some time ago doesn't change after this coming patch,. . . you'll probably hate me for another month >>;;;;;;;

I probably won't be around that long, so nothing to worry about, just keep working on it.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: HamsterIV on September 05, 2013, 11:20:37 am
@funpants
I stopped hating you when the bicorn hat was released for the male model. I don't even know if you were the artist responsible for it. My main gripe about this game a few moths ago was the the female models had all the best hats. Now that I can look suitably imperial while shouting orders from the helm, I really can't complain.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Zenark on September 05, 2013, 11:36:21 am
What's with that reticle on the right picture? Certainly never seen that before.

Ps. All the flames!
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: LordFunPants on September 05, 2013, 12:40:20 pm
What's with that reticle on the right picture? Certainly never seen that before.

funny you mention that because i was talking with one of the programmers earlier about how "i always try to take pictures while cropping off new features/additions/what ever because i know the fans will likely pick up on every last detail and speculate"  and with that case i'd have to put up the typical DISCLAIMER! work in progress :P

honestly though, with these last pictures the only thing i can assure is final in them is the model/textures themselves, anything else is stuff i didn't personally work on so as i always put, i dont comment or tease about stuff i didn't work on. and most of the time working in the test build means a billion test things are going on at the same time, actually kind fun. *more disclaimers*
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Zenark on September 05, 2013, 12:54:52 pm
Fair enough.. . Bastards.
Kidding <3

The model is quite intimidating, I can't wait to hear what it sounds like. I love the guns' reports.

And seeing how the reticle is only different in the gun, I'm assuming we're about to get some dynamic sights... Awesome.

You can't hide things from us, Muse. We know your games <3
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Gambrill on September 06, 2013, 12:01:14 pm
Kirk We're gonna have a lot of fun when this puppy get released into the pack ;) magma on the front of a squid and flamer on the side with banshee at the back :3
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Zenark on September 06, 2013, 12:04:38 pm
Kirk We're gonna have a lot of fun when this puppy get released into the pack ;) magma on the front of a squid and flamer on the side with banshee at the back :3

You can guarantee I'll have one on the Mantis Shrimp!
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Sgt. Spoon on September 06, 2013, 05:54:46 pm
oh yeah, this thing was massive for a light gun
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Plasmarobo on September 11, 2013, 10:30:18 pm
I'm calling it: New meta.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Dutch Vanya on September 11, 2013, 10:44:47 pm
And perhaps chemspray will be viable again?
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: N-Sunderland on September 11, 2013, 10:47:03 pm
And perhaps chemspray will be viable again?

Why isn't it already viable? Ever since the change to extinguishing on cooldown was made chem spray's been a better fire tool than the extinguisher, particularly on the hull and balloon.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Dutch Vanya on September 11, 2013, 11:47:18 pm
I meant "more" viable. I never really use it because the duration is so short and i need to be doing other things than applying chem spray, and once theres more than 3 stacks of fire on something while i need to repair other things, it starts to feel useless.

About the new meta, i do have a certain feeling that this gun might have piercing damage, because those seem to be lacking and it might change up some of the really common weapon combinations.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Squidslinger Gilder on September 12, 2013, 12:00:35 am
Yeah its pointless. CD is far too long and even for small fires you'll usually lose the armor before the CD comes up if you are under heavy gat fire. Rest of the time I'm seeing greater than 5+ stacks of fire and it just isn't helpful to have chem spray.

Having someone running around perma chemming runs into the same problem against piercing weapons, or shatter weapons.

Chem won't be viable to me until it is returned to it's roots. 40% ignite reduction and the ability to spam it quickly. It wasn't as fast as extinguish but the 40% reduction was helpful but not OP. Extinguish still had it's place for the 10+ stacks.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Captain Smollett on September 12, 2013, 12:03:57 am
Umm, chem spray is boss.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Spud Nick on September 12, 2013, 04:55:53 am
I take chem spray with me when I fly a junker. It's fairly easy to keep the balloon perma sprayed from the pilot seat. Same with a galleon and spire.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Mr. Ace Rimmer on September 18, 2013, 09:32:50 am
3 Hades 2 flamer Mobula... *drools*
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Byron Cavendish on September 18, 2013, 10:01:13 am
Sorry, chem spray is terrible. Great in theory though.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Zenark on September 18, 2013, 11:42:24 am
This thread went from Magma Cannon, to Chem Spray usefulness. Chem Spray certainly isn't useless, when I see a bluish white hue on an enemy ship's component, I rage a little inside. It means I have to focus fire or tell my gunner to focus fire on a different part if I'm going burny.

But let's get back to the beauty that is the Magma Cannon. Can't wait for it ~
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Spud Nick on September 18, 2013, 02:54:39 pm
Anybody know if we are going to see this weapon in the next patch?
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: LordFunPants on September 18, 2013, 02:57:08 pm
yes
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: N-Sunderland on September 18, 2013, 03:50:51 pm
One final post on chem:

Sorry, chem spray is terrible. Great in theory though.

Nooooooooo. Remember when they changed it so you couldn't extinguish on cooldown? That changed everything.


Back to Magma:

Can't wait for the gun to hit production. Loads of fun to use... And magma/flak Spire looks pretty deadly.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Captain Smollett on September 18, 2013, 04:03:32 pm
I think the magma will get really good use on the mobula as well.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: N-Sunderland on September 18, 2013, 04:04:47 pm
It might even get some use as a sniper weapon, getting paired with the Artemis. You can get some pretty good range on that thing with lesmok, and it outdamages the merc.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Gambrill on September 24, 2013, 05:42:25 am
The Flak Spire Has a major increase Thanks to this weapon. I can finally feel safe piloting this floating stick with a front firing magma, Heavy Flak Top right artemis and carro left :)
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: James T. Kirk on September 24, 2013, 12:51:17 pm
Flamer, Banshee, Hades, Banshee, Flamer is an epicly Cake Mobula build.

Surprisingly effective, too.
Have a gunner sit up top with lesmock while you approach and jump down to either side flamer with greased for close range.

Works wonders on Canyon Ambush.
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: Zenark on September 24, 2013, 12:53:49 pm
We should do this with my Hades Pyra alongside ya, Kirk!
Title: Re: New Gun In The Works: Magma Weapon
Post by: James T. Kirk on September 24, 2013, 12:57:27 pm
If we're ever online at the same time... :/