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Baptism by Spire Tournament
Preface
The Baptism by Spire Tournament can be considered a restrictive tournament when compared to the current format of the Cogs League and similar tournament structures. However, this Tournament has been designed with key and deliberate choices to promote three things:
1) The inclusion of new and upcoming competitive teams
2) The branching out of the competitive scene, with the goal of providing new viewer and competitor experiences outside of the normal ‘meta gameplay’
3) The expansion in the viewer base of newer streamers, and the consolidation of larger viewer bases in the further established channels
This following document aims to provide the reader with a comprehensive understanding of the Baptism by Spire Tournament and its rules. This document will refrain from needless jargon. From this point forward, this document will use the words ‘Match’ and ‘Game’. A Game is part of the set of 3 that a team needs to win. A Match is all Games grouped together in that bracket. An understanding of the game and critical terminology will be assumed.
Tournament Rules
Match Rules
1) Each Match will be a best of 3 in the following maps: Game One: Paritian Rumble, Game Two: Duel at Dawn, Game Three: Labyrinth.
2) Each Game will consist of 2 ships on each team.
3) Before Game One, crew members are sorted into their ships. After Game One, crew members are locked into their ships, and cannot be traded between ships. In the case of a substitution, the substitute will be treated as a normal member of the team in the position of the person they replace.
4) Once substituted into a crew, a substitute cannot be replaced, even by the crew member they originally substituted for. This will last for the rest of the Match. The original crew member can reenter the team for the next Match. A maximum of 8 substitutes will be allowed per team throughout the entire Tournament. This is an effort to prevent the exploitation of crew swapping.
5) Once the Game starts, players begin to play- there is no pause for disconnected players nor for players that are spending too much time loading in. This will keep each Match moving along and will also remove potential bias.
6) The loser of the Match is eliminated, via a single elimination system.
7) Games have a time limit of 30 minutes. After this amount of time has elapsed, the team with the highest score wins the Game. If the score is tied, the Game enters sudden-death. If the Game lasts more than 45 minutes, both teams are disqualified. There will be a warning at the beginning of Sudden Death. The time limit does not apply for Game Three.
8.) The winner of the Match will progress further up the tournament bracket.
Loadout Restrictions
The Baptism by Spire Tournament is the first competition that features a restriction on weapon Loadouts. The rules are as follows:
1) The ONLY ship that may be used in the Tournament is the Spire.
2) All weapons can be used at some point during the Tournament, but the availability of each weapon depends on its previous usage in that Match.
3) Rules apply for the usage of Medium weapons and Light weapons. Due to the complicated nature of these rules, they have their own subsection, which follows this.
Medium Weapon Rules
Medium Weapons cannot be shared by the two ships on a Team in the same Game- two LumberSpires on the same team is not a valid build.
Once a Medium Weapon has been used in Game One, it is unavailable for use in Game Two on that team. This means that either Spire in Game Two cannot use a Medium Weapon that was used in Game One on their team.
In Game Three, all Medium Weapons are unlocked and available, but with one condition: Medium weapon pairings cannot recur from previously in the Match.
For example, this means that a Lumberjack can be reused in Game Three, but the other Spire on the team cannot use the same Medium weapon that was used with it in a previous Game. If Game One had a Lumberjack and a Hwacha, Game Three cannot have a Lumberjack and a Hwacha. However, a Lumberjack and a Heavy Flak would be acceptable.
Example Medium Weapon Loadout (One Match)
Game One
LumberSpire FlakSpire
Game Two
HwachaSpire CarronadeSpire
Game Three
LumberSpire HwachaSpire
This is an Example of a completely valid set of builds.
An Example of an incorrect set:
Game One
LumberSpire FlakSpire
Game Two
FlakSpire LumberSpire
Game Three
CarronadeSpire HwachaSpire
This set of builds is incorrect as both the Lumberjack and Heavy Flak reappear in Game Two, having been used in Game One. A misconception is that swapping the Medium Guns on the ships is valid. It is not, but it is an understandable mistake.
Light Weapon Rules
A Light Weapon cannot be present on a single ship more than once.
Once a Light Weapon has been used in either Game One or Game Two, it cannot be used in subsequent Games, including Game Three
A team cannot repeat a weapon on both ships in the same Game. For example- Spire A and Spire B cannot both have a Gatling as a Light Weapons in the same Game. The exception to this rule is Game Three, where repeats are allowed so long as the Light Weapons conform to the rules above.
Example Light Weapon Loadout (One Match)
Game One
Spire A Spire B
Gatling Mercury
Flare Carronade
Mortar Flamethrower
Game Two
Spire A Spire B
Mercury Gatling
Carronade Flare
Flamethrower Mortar
Game Three
Spire A Spire B
Harpoon Harpoon
M.Launcher M.Launcher
Echidna Echidna
This is an example of a valid set of builds
Rules regarding Teams
Coalitions will be allowed between clans- as long as it is a full 2v2 team with or without substitutes, any number of different clans can play as a single team. Those not part of a clan can also join the tournament- everyone is allowed to enter as long as a team has two full ships. If a group has enough players for only one ship, then they should leave a post below in the comments and search for another!
A player cannot play on multiple teams.
A team name will have to be made for organization in the brackets. Team ClanA + ClanB is not exciting enough. Team Doug is.
Tournament Structure
To be determined as teams sign up. It will be standard team vs. team matchups with no L bracket. There is no limit to the amount of teams that can enter the tournament.
Rules Governing Byes
The presence of Byes in the Baptism By Spire Tournament depends on the number of entries. If Byes are introduced, they will be distributed to teams randomly according to a number randomizer.
Progression System
By winning a Match, a Team will progress further in the tournament. This progression takes the form of advancing up through the brackets. The number of brackets and therefore potential Matches will depend on the number of teams entered into the Tournament. Once a team has progressed several brackets, they will be playing in a finals Match. These Matches, Quarter, Semi or Final, will determine the Teams that enter the Championship Match. The winner of the Championship Match will receive the ‘Trophy Prizes’, while the loser of the Match will receive the ‘Consolation Prizes’.
If a match is lost, the losing team does not move up the bracket, and they will play no further matches.
PRIZES
The First Place Team will receive one of each of these fabulous ‘Trophy Prizes’ to be divided up amongst its members :
Sid Meier’s Civilization III
Sonic The Hedgehog
Worms
Killing Floor
Super Hexagon
Garry’s Mod
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War
MVP’s Prize: Secret of the Magic Crystal
The Second Place Team receives the following grossly incandescent ‘Consolation Prizes’:
Dota 2
Dota 2
Dota 2
Dota 2
Dota 2
Dota 2
Dota 2
The nearly MVP’s Prize: Dota 2
How to Enter
To enter the tournament, a full and correct entry form* must be sent in by July 30th to mxtaube@googlemail.com. Likewise, please confirm your interest by making a post below. The Baptism By Spire Tournament will take place August 3rd (Saturday) at 10:30am eastern time. Depending on the amount of entries, the Tournament may be extended to a second bout on August 10th (Saturday) at 10:30am eastern time. Within a day or two of the closed entries, we will create the brackets and make them public.
Entry Form*
Baptism By Spire Tournament Entry Form
* Required
Enter the name of your Group/Team/Clan *
Full Name and preferred abbreviation would be helpful
What type of Team are you? *
Clan
Team made just for this tournament
Coalition between two (or more) Clans
Single ship looking for a second ship.
Other:
List all of the primary members of Ship A, not Substitutes *
Make sure to split the members into Crew and Captains.
List all of the primary members of Ship B (if applicable)
Make sure to split the members into Crew and Captains.
List all of the Substitutes for your Team (8 maximum) *
Display your Loadouts (both ships) for the first Game of your first Match. Include both Light and Medium weapons *
Please read the rules thoroughly. If there is anything you do not understand, email BaptismBySpire@gmail.com
Display your Loadouts (both ships) for the second Game of your first Match. Include both Light and Medium weapons *
Please read the rules thoroughly. If there is anything you do not understand, email BaptismBySpire@gmail.com
Display your Loadouts (both ships) for the third Game of your first Match. Include both Light and Medium weapons. *
Please read the rules thoroughly. If there is anything you do not understand, email BaptismBySpire@gmail.com
For questions about the tournament, leave a comment on this forum post or email BaptismBySpire@gmail.com!
Acknowledgements:
-Muse- Cullen (Co-organiser + Prizes)
AhhBisseto (Prizes)
Mattisamo (Prizes)
Chrinus (Test Dummy)
Rex Hamilton (Test Dummy)
-Muse- Morbie (Wise Sage)
Squash (Test Ducky)
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Sounds fun, lemme know if you need/want any help with the casting of it :)
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Ducks are in and excited, you'll be seeing us on the 2th.
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4am in europe at the tounament time.
it's too late for me and most of corvus sorry.
would have liked to participate.
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NANI KORE!!
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Well this is certainly going to be a new experience.
I'll be interested to see the effects of the weapon limitations.
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After more discussion, the time for the tournament has been pushed a couple of hours to August 2th (Friday) at 11:59pm eastern time. This is an attempt to make the tournament as available as possible for all players across the globe.
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11:59 EST? Well I won't be showing up, in that case.
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Having a tournament start at 9pm pacific, midnight eastern, and 5-7am europe time doesn't seem like the best thing to do here. Is there some reason for this? I don't foresee many entries if this time is kept.
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Yeah, this time would only work for (I think) four of The Raft's members. I can't imagine that mostly American teams like MM would really find that convenient either (though I certainly can't speak for them).
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I'm all for more times to let more people in, but I can't say I'd be jumping through hoops to join this one with that time.
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The times are subject to change, as you guys can see. We want this to be as inclusive as possible. We'll cater to the team's available times. First, we'll find out who plans on joining, and then we'll decide on a time based on that.
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TCD (we're new) is looking into putting forward a team but we would also find the currently slated timing very awkward.
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lol @ "August 2th"
anyway, sounds like a fun tournament but starting at midnight would be pretty rough... I could probably manage it since it's a Friday night, but it's less than preferable.
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Sounds like a fun tournament but starting at midnight would be pretty rough... I could probably manage it since it's a Friday night, but it's less than preferable.
Thanks for the feedback. The final time will probably not end up being midnight eastern. We want as many people to be able to join, and our thought process was that on a Friday night, people would have to be on between 8pm and midnight, while people in Europe had to be online at 5am and onward on Saturday morning- our goal was to avoid that graveyard shift between 12am and 6am the best that we can. However, we're seeing that trying to avoid this is becoming a problem, anyway, so we're going to figure out a better time while dancing around the Cogs. Stay tuned... we'll find a way.
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I mean, if you're putting it on a weekday, you're almost certainly going to exclude someone. Heck, even weekends are barely manageable for time zones.
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I know Saturday is already cog day but what if it was like 11 am est?
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We're playing with the idea of pushing the tournament a day forward to August 3rd (Saturday) at 10:30am eastern time. This seems to be a safe time with enough buffer before the Cogs.
I know Saturday is already cog day but what if it was like 11 am est?
Totally should have read this sooner, cos it would have saved us the brainstorm, haha. Great minds etc.
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That would be much better, for me anyway. Might be a tad early for our west coast friends (7:30 am), but not that bad.
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Sadly, its going to be hard to get everyone crammed into the tournament. When we're trying to include the entire globe, some places will have rough times. I just hope that 7:30 is manageable, because this seems to be the best choice- earliest time is 7:30am, and the latest time seems to be about 11pm.
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Here's the problem with 10:30 am Saturday, it's only 5 and a half hours until Cogs. That sounds fine for Americans, just a really big gaming session, but look at this from someone in the Pacific. That means they'll have to play your event late night, then get up a few hours later for an extremely early Cogs. Why can't we just cancel cogs for the day like they did with the Captain's Tournament?
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Update: We have contacted Swallow about the Cogs, and he is going to cancel it for the day. On August 3rd (Saturday) at 10:30am eastern time, the tournament will take place, and there will be no Cogs match afterward.
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Sounds great!
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I'm not nuts about a Spire tourney personally. Weapon loadout mixes seem a bit confusing and a headache to maintain. But I've also got Ops with guild during that time slot so I won't even be able to.
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Weapon loadout mixes seem a bit confusing and a headache to maintain.
We want each loadout to be sent in beforehand, so for those that are confused, we can check to see if a loadout is acceptable and give feedback. We can also try to reword the Medium and Light weapon rules if someone is having trouble understanding them.
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Sounds like a lot of fun, just one thing I've noticed.
1st place one features 7 games in total, will you find an eighth or how does it work out for that poor soul?
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Good spot Matt, we're actually still looking for an eigth prize, although we have a couple candidates. In terms of a 'poor soul' Im more concerned for the person who gets secret of the magic crystal!
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So now its no Cogs that day and 7:30am for me here. Hmmm...dunno if I'd want to wake up that early cause I'll be up till past midnight the night before with Ops and anime. If Brick is game I'm sure he could find an alternate up for flying a Spire. I'll pass it along. I know we got one member who is/maybe was a Spire nut.
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Good spot Matt, we're actually still looking for an eigth prize, although we have a couple candidates. In terms of a 'poor soul' Im more concerned for the person who gets secret of the magic crystal!
I have quite a few games that I could gift away, just log onto skype and we can talk about it.
Also, remember that you can't gift away beta-invites to DotA2 anymore, as it has been launched recently.
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UPDATE:
Many thanks to Mattisamo, who has donated (very kindly) our eighth prize: Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War!
I don't know about you folks, but I freaking loved this game. Cheers again Matt!
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how many teams have signed up wazulu?
personally corvus has a lot of vacation spread out, so I would need to find someone to team up with. Just want to know who already signed up if thats possible.
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Recruiting
I'm looking for a couple of engineers to fly in this tournament with me!
I already have pilots and gunners!! Also you do not need to join my clan to compete with me in the tournament!
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Cake is currently in the process of getting a team together.
There is a 95% chance that we will participate.
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Good Lord!
Due to a good friend at TCD, I've discovered that Google Drive has truly messed up our Entry Forms! As a result, the Forms never get to me, and I'm afraid all entries have been lost. Multiple apologies! Anyways, as a result, I need folks to email mxtaube@googlemail.com in the following format:
Baptism By Spire Tournament Entry Form
* Required
Enter the name of your Group/Team/Clan *
Full Name and preferred abbreviation would be helpful
What type of Team are you? *
Clan
Team made just for this tournament
Coalition between two (or more) Clans
Single ship looking for a second ship.
Other:
List all of the primary members of Ship A, not Substitutes *
Make sure to split the members into Crew and Captains.
List all of the primary members of Ship B (if applicable)
Make sure to split the members into Crew and Captains.
List all of the Substitutes for your Team (8 maximum) *
Display your Loadouts (both ships) for the first Game of your first Match. Include both Light and Medium weapons *
Please read the rules thoroughly. If there is anything you do not understand, email BaptismBySpire@gmail.com
Display your Loadouts (both ships) for the second Game of your first Match. Include both Light and Medium weapons *
Please read the rules thoroughly. If there is anything you do not understand, email BaptismBySpire@gmail.com
Display your Loadouts (both ships) for the third Game of your first Match. Include both Light and Medium weapons. *
Please read the rules thoroughly. If there is anything you do not understand, email BaptismBySpire@gmail.com
Again, sorry! And, I hope to see you on the 3rd!
Oh!
Side note: due to our mess up, the deadline for entries has been extended to the30th of July!
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What about the Dota prize? How is that going to work anyways, seeing as it was recently released, in game items or are we switching that out entirely? It also looks like I need to be up fairly early, seeing as I'm in the Pacific Northwest
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Hmm, well, due to the release we naturally lost all the keys. On another note, most people already have Dota 2 keys. Obviously, the entire thing was a joke, although we did have the keys. I could attempt to find some other prizes, but time's a constraint.
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Museosaurs will be attending! Come join in the shenanigans for your chance (if you haven't had many already) to blow Bubbles out of the sky! :D
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Awesome! I was hoping you guys would show.
I know Keyvias and Bubbles both play a mean Spire.
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Awesome! I was hoping you guys would show.
I know Keyvias and Bubbles both play a mean Spire.
Well I know that Keyvias has a mean B-Wing. (B-WING!)
Unsure on Bubbles.. :P
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I've been on a Spire with Bubbles once or twice. It's an..enlightening experience, for sure.
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Paddling registered!
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Thou who do not know of us will soon learn that we are random! The URG are Registered!
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Who's officially casting this thing?
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Hey there Kirk-
In terms of casting, I've had to know the numbers before I actually set out on finding casters. This means that I have up until Saturday 10:30 EST to find some folks willing to cast. Now that the entries are very nearly closed ( around half an hour at time of writing) I can make the brackets and generally sort out the timings and structure. Expect a lot of information in the coming days!
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Keep us posted dashing ranger.
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Hey there Kirk-
In terms of casting, I've had to know the numbers before I actually set out on finding casters. This means that I have up until Saturday 10:30 EST to find some folks willing to cast. Now that the entries are very nearly closed ( around half an hour at time of writing) I can make the brackets and generally sort out the timings and structure. Expect a lot of information in the coming days!
I'm trying to decide if I want to be up at 7:30am on a Saturday to cast this... currently the answer is "probably not".
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The match doesn't have to start at 10:30 EST on the dot, that's just when the Tourney begins. In terms of when casters will cast, the games will be run serially, one after another. This leads me into my next part of planning.
In terms of casters, I'd like to have 3 at maximum, and that being the preferred number. The first round will consist of 3 matches, leading in to a Semi-final, and then the Championship Match. I'll be contacting the streamers outside of this forum today and tomorrow.
Considering the serial nature of the games, there's only the need for two Judges. The Judge will check the loadouts of each team and make sure they correspond to the details sent to me in the application, and will work with the winning team at the end of each match to finalise their loadout for their next match.
I'll talk to the casters, but in-between Matches I'd like to run post-match chats with representatives of each team present in the stream. These would then provide enough time for the other Judge and Caster to set up the next Match. The hope would be that the Matches would run more or less smoothly between one another.
There's a whole bunch of other stuff, but there's little point ballooning this post beyond what's necessary. Expect the Brackets by 12AM 1st August.
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Okay, the Brackets have been made. Note, all the matches have been randomly generated.
http://challonge.com/BaptismBySpire for the pure details. I'll be getting some nicer looking ones, hopefully
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yes, Yes, YES!!! URG VS TCD first round! This is exactly what I wanted!
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yes, Yes, YES!!! URG VS TCD first round! This is exactly what I wanted!
And the winner gets to beat up on Cake!
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I don't think that the line up could be any better!
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GGs. Thanks for the Secret of the Magic Crystal. bb GOI.
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In related news, Duck are no longer an Icarus clan, and we are now a Secret of the Magic Crystal clan.
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Told you that game had it all :)
Anyways, I'll write up a proper thank-you post in a couple hours, right now both me and Fade are dead. Quickly, thanks to all the players, and all the various folks who helped me along the way- I'll elaborate on you shortly!
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So... Did The Paddling win?
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Yep, they won in two games against TCD. For full details, check:
http://challonge.com/BaptismBySpire
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Good games had by all. Everyone had good showings, tough fights!