Guns Of Icarus Online

Info => Feedback and Suggestions => Topic started by: Daedalus Hubris on May 13, 2016, 07:29:10 am

Title: Dear Devs, Make Game F2p
Post by: Daedalus Hubris on May 13, 2016, 07:29:10 am
Dear Muse,
GOI population is low. The population is so low that for new/casual players like myself find it neigh impossible to be matched against/with players of our low caliber and is most cases are matched against/with highly skilled and highly experienced players. This means that we are a detriment to our crew and the that GOI has become a discouraging place for our kind. I have brought my friends and even gave them copies I paid for only to have them returned or discarded as your masterful community slaughters us like pigs.

Members of the GOI community would use words like "niche", "loyalty”, "updates" and sheer denial of population statistics provided by steam. This is not to say that they don’t care, but rather care too much and have lost objectivity. This is why I appeal directly to you, GOI developers-

MAKE GUNS OF ICARRUS FREE TO PLAY!

This is not to say forsake your patrons who have invested so much. Reward them with exclusive gifts, and cherish their undying loyalty. The market has had nearly 4 years of GOI and any additional purchases at this point would be diminished making the hit to your overhead minor. You can then replace the lost funding by enhancing micro transactions. Your community and myself have trust in your good judgement to not establish a pay to win system.

Hopefully funding will be there for the expanse of Muse.

With upmost regard,
-The Last Fox


P.S.
Dear GOI Community,
You may comment all you want, your opinions are well known, but I can’t be bothered to read them because they are terribly uninteresting. I do however, encourage you all to have a beer for me and be merry. If you are of insufficient age a chicken wing will suffice.

Cheers,
-The Last Fox
Title: Re: Dear Devs, Make Game F2p
Post by: Schwalbe on May 13, 2016, 07:36:26 am
And this will most likely be the summary of what both community and devs think about such propositions. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rdAZ7oATfc)
Title: Re: Dear Devs, Make Game F2p
Post by: Atruejedi on May 13, 2016, 08:01:26 am
In a word: No.

In more than a word: We have a high enough turnover rate as it is. Making it free-to-play makes it a newb haven where, because nobody paid any money, new players have no real reason to invest time into learning the game. Free-to-play Guns of Icarus would destroy the player base that already exists by driving away all of the current players, myself included.
Title: Re: Dear Devs, Make Game F2p
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on May 13, 2016, 08:09:06 am
You may comment all you want, your opinions are well known, but I can’t be bothered to read them because they are terribly uninteresting.
Title: Re: Dear Devs, Make Game F2p
Post by: Hoja Lateralus on May 13, 2016, 08:18:15 am
You may comment all you want, your opinions are well known, but I can’t be bothered to read them because they are terribly uninteresting.

So you're basically a preacher that tells us the ULTIMATE TRUTH and doesn't expect us to discuss?
Oh, well, the only people I despise more than those of this kind are the communists. That's saying a lot and I mean it.

But more to the point, if you want to adress devs directly you should write on feedback@musegames.com , they, as you, can't be bothered with reading some of the discussions on the forum, and now I can see why ;]

Developers have made it clear that GOIO will never be free-to-play. One the thing that people are willing to praise in GOIO is it's community - if game goes f2p the community would be ruined. Not to mention the money issue.

//Mods, if he doesn't read it is it still bad to tell him to shove a cactus up his ass? Does the tree that nobody hears still make the sound? :D
Title: Re: Dear Devs, Make Game F2p
Post by: Lanliss on May 13, 2016, 08:37:30 am
Is it bad that I physically winced when reading this? Especially the part where the guy basically insulted anyone who comments on it.
Title: Re: Dear Devs, Make Game F2p
Post by: Schwalbe on May 13, 2016, 09:00:37 am
You may comment all you want, your opinions are well known, but I can’t be bothered to read them because they are terribly uninteresting.

But more to the point, if you want to adress devs directly you should write on feedback@musegames.com , they, as you, can't be bothered with reading some of the discussions on the forum, and now I can see why ;]

//Mods, if he doesn't read it is it still bad to tell him to shove a cactus up his ass? Does the tree that nobody hears still make the sound? :D

Roasted af.
Title: Re: Dear Devs, Make Game F2p
Post by: Skymonger on May 13, 2016, 12:31:58 pm
Players of our low caliber...?
I just ran into 6 full ships of low levels last night.
If anything it's more difficult to find players of HIGH caliber. So I dunno what you are on about.

I also like the fact you CASUALLY insulted the GOI community because you are afraid of the backlash pf comments from posting this. Frankly, you should be, because your points are REALLY UPSETTING putting it nicely.

But since
I can’t be bothered to read them because they are terribly uninteresting.

Im not going to bother trying to counter because it's "terribly uninteresting"
So...I'll just leave this here.
(http://i.imgur.com/7YZZ19x.jpg)


Respectfully of course.
Title: Re: Dear Devs, Make Game F2p
Post by: Schwalbe on May 13, 2016, 12:38:48 pm
There's no need to be respectful against an incomprehensive, self-entitled piece of fuckin shite who doesn't even understand such basic things like how conversation works, AND thinking saying stuff like that will cut off any opposing counters.

Hahahahahahahaha.

No.

You're just showing that you are a dick, and probably, somehow even more carcenogene than myself.
Nothing to be proud of.
Title: Re: Dear Devs, Make Game F2p
Post by: Piemanlives on May 13, 2016, 12:39:57 pm
Calling for a thread lock. Thread has no real purpose.
Title: Re: Dear Devs, Make Game F2p
Post by: Skymonger on May 13, 2016, 01:00:37 pm
There's no need to be respectful against an incomprehensive, self-entitled piece of fuckin shite who doesn't even understand such basic things like how conversation works, AND thinking saying stuff like that will cut off any opposing counters.

Hahahahahahahaha.

No.

You're just showing that you are a dick, and probably, somehow even more carcenogene than myself.
Nothing to be proud of.

Oh of course. I have no need to be respectful.
BUT. I need to save my own skin from the mods right?
If I was allowed to, I would bury this guy in obsentities.

...oh cool. I'm a dick. THIS CHANGES THINGS.
Title: Re: Dear Devs, Make Game F2p
Post by: nanoduckling on May 13, 2016, 01:58:01 pm
People are judged by many things, but one universal measure of their quality is if their actions further or hinder their objectives. By this standard, the OP really does suck. Now even if the developers did want to do something free-to-pay like they cant do it without the most recent advocate for it having behaved like a total jackass. If you brought the same tactical and strategic insights to the game played from your hard drive as you have to the game played in the forum I am not surprised you have been repeatedly crushed.
Title: Re: Dear Devs, Make Game F2p
Post by: Lanliss on May 13, 2016, 02:25:28 pm
Players of our low caliber...?
I just ran into 6 full ships of low levels last night.
If anything it's more difficult to find players of HIGH caliber. So I dunno what you are on about.

I also like the fact you CASUALLY insulted the GOI community because you are afraid of the backlash pf comments from posting this. Frankly, you should be, because your points are REALLY UPSETTING putting it nicely.

But since
I can’t be bothered to read them because they are terribly uninteresting.

Im not going to bother trying to counter because it's "terribly uninteresting"
So...I'll just leave this here.
(http://i.imgur.com/7YZZ19x.jpg)


Respectfully of course.
I know it is pretty much against everything we should stand for as a great community, but that picture, in this context, made my day. I really hope the mods don't have to flag everyone in this thread for breaking the rules...
Title: Re: Dear Devs, Make Game F2p
Post by: Richard LeMoon on May 13, 2016, 04:02:09 pm
Devs don't really read the forums. Basic rule #1 of any community.
Title: Re: Dear Devs, Make Game F2p
Post by: Skymonger on May 13, 2016, 04:10:23 pm
I know it is pretty much against everything we should stand for as a great community, but that picture, in this context, made my day. I really hope the mods don't have to flag everyone in this thread for breaking the rules...

Honestly, everyone in this thread wouldn't be pissed at him and would kindly counter his arguement of "making GOI free to play" because he was "matched up with high levels and promptly slaughtered"

We would encourage him that he is NOT a detriment to crews because us high levels have been lvl 1 before and we know EXACTLY what to teach the new guys to NOT BE A DETRIMENT.
A lot of us teach the rookies after all.
I even slaughtered a lvl 45 captain as a lvl 6 captain and pulled my ass through a match and won as a lvl 3 with an ALL AI crew at one time, so who the fuck cares about levels?

But...

He had to say "I can't be bothered to read them because they are terribly uninteresting"
Which is an alternative wording for "I know what I'm saying is right, so fuck you guys, you don't know shit and I don't care about your words."

And you know what? That's fine.
I don't give a shit either. I'll just continue slaughtering your arrogant asses and laugh maniacally as I put my boot up your ass.

And at the end of the day
THIS DOSENT HELP ANYTHING.
By implementing this, you basically get a massive influx of new guys to be promptly slaughtered by the vets.
So rather than fixing the situation that you got matched up with Vets and got slaughtered... By simply moving on, learning more, and gain more experience and not take this loss so badly...
You basically blew it out of proportion 100 times worse.
Sure you meet more low levels, but it Dosent help if you get matched up against a high level again hmm???

But why do you care? My response is "terribly uninteresting"
So The vets will simply say your slaughter was a "terribly uninteresting" excuse of a match.

Eeeerrrrrrrggghhhhhh!!! His words are seriously pissing me off everytime I read them!

Title: Re: Dear Devs, Make Game F2p
Post by: Lysanya on May 13, 2016, 05:46:17 pm
Calling for a thread lock. Thread has no real purpose.

He posted this exact same thread on Steam, and it got locked within 10 hours.  The same fate likely awaits here.

@OP: Discussion is important, but blindly throwing around your opinion and refusing to view or consider responses means you view your opinion as the only one that matters, when it actually invalidates any argument you make.  You're not likely to see this, but allow me to present a counterargument here... and no, it has nothing to do with a cactus.

Last night past midnight EST, we had 3 vet ships and 3 new ships (every player under level 10 on those ships) in the same lobby.  Match ended 7-6 and was actually a well played match.  Lots of very satisfied players post-match.  One of those ships stuck around for 2v2s afterward for some more good matches.  Good times were had by all.

Yes, it's a small community.  But that's not necessarily a bad thing.  It's just a different dynamic compared to more "mainstream" games.  You don't have to be a great player to be popular or well liked around here.  Heck, if you're just sociable, you're highly likely to be brought into a lot of lobbies.  We're willing to teach, if you're willing to learn.  We don't bite.  Well, most of us don't bite.

In short, help us help you.  Reach out to the community instead of posting a one-way conversation, and we will do everything we can to help you learn the game, the community, etc, and enhance your experience.
Title: Re: Dear Devs, Make Game F2p
Post by: Piemanlives on May 13, 2016, 05:56:05 pm
Calling for a thread lock. Thread has no real purpose.

He posted this exact same thread on Steam, and it got locked within 10 hours.  The same fate likely awaits here.

I put a notice to the mods on discord, no one has yet to respond, a moment, I'll try again.
Title: Re: Dear Devs, Make Game F2p
Post by: Admiral Obvious on May 13, 2016, 06:01:29 pm
This thread has been officially locked by Guns Of Icarus Moderation. The topic has become derailed and players who do wish to discuss a topic should do so civilly in the future.