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Title: Describe your nation
Post by: Hoja Lateralus on September 03, 2015, 10:18:33 pm
Fun game, describe strenghts and weaknesses of your nation, you have 5 pluses and 3 minuses to give. You may count big features as double plus or double minus. The more stupid and stereotypical it is - the better.

I'll start:

POLAND

++ Removing kebab/communism
++ Alcohol resistance
+ Cleaning toilets

- Going into space
- Wealth
- Fashion taste

(http://www.brofessional.com/files/u1/Sock_With_Sandals.jpg)
More common than you'd think
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Koali on September 03, 2015, 10:42:57 pm
USA

++ GUNS
++ OBNOXIOUS PATRIOTISM
++ GOING INTO SPACE
+ CULTURAL MIX
+ "DEMOCRACY"

- EXPENSIVE HEALTHCARE
- "DEMOCRACY"
- CULTURAL MIX
- DEBT
- OBNOXIOUS PATRIOTISM
- GUN-CONTROL FREAKS

...Shoot. That's more than 5 pluses and 3 minuses. BUT THIS IS AMERICA!!! WE'RE TOO BIG FOR 5 PLUSES AND 3 MINUSES!!!
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Squidslinger Gilder on September 04, 2015, 12:10:13 am
USA

+ Washington State
+ In N Out Burger
+ Anime Expo
+ Had awesome founding fathers
+ 2nd amendment

- Politicians
- Media censorship
- Tries to police the world yet when genocides happen, does nothing

- About a 100 or so other reasons it sucks

What can I say, I grew up in the 80s. I used up all my patriotism back then.
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Piemanlives on September 04, 2015, 12:17:25 am
+ Washington State

Yes, salute.
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Daft Loon on September 04, 2015, 12:23:29 am
New Zealand
+Really far away
+Always makes top 5 least corrupt nations
+The exact opposite of crowded
+Breathable air
+Beautiful forests, rivers, mountains etc

-Really far away
-Earthquakes, volcanoes etc everywhere
-Most of the beautiful rivers are actually full of cow shit
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Riggatto on September 04, 2015, 12:50:03 am
I see this going badly very quickly...

Israel
+Language is fun to speak
+food
+Location of 3 major religions
+really diverse

-shaky politics
-have been at war since the 1940s
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Kamoba on September 04, 2015, 01:47:37 am
Born and raised in England, now living in Slovakia, I feel I need to do two of these!

Slovakia:
Pros
+The heart of Europe! (Geographical centre)
+Ice hockey players! (Some of the best the world has seen.)
+Palenka. (a very smooth homebrew alcohol averages at 60%)
+Beautiful people! (Really!)
+Beautiful countryside and castles and caves!


Cons
-No metro in the capital city!  ???
-Fed palenka during any family meet up, often leading to very drunk times, rude if you decline! XD
-Often gets confused as still being part of Czechoslovakia despite being a republic again..


England
Pros
+Economy (The pound is still strong..)
+Multi-cultural
+Gun laws. 8) (but we will not go too far into this debate.)

Cons
-Politicians.
-Mainstream ideals are accepted norm, anything else is "weird"
-Consumerism and corporate bullshit plays too big a part in politics.


@Riggatto: As long as people don't start debating politics and keeping the thread on topic it'll be fine.
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Lieutenant Noir on September 04, 2015, 04:27:35 am
New Zealand
+Really far away
+Always makes top 5 least corrupt nations
+The exact opposite of crowded
+Breathable air
+Beautiful forests, rivers, mountains etc

-Really far away
-Earthquakes, volcanoes etc everywhere
-Most of the beautiful rivers are actually full of cow shit

OMG you're from NZ too!!

COME ERE ;0
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: BlackenedPies on September 04, 2015, 11:41:31 am
+ Population diversity
+ Large diverse landmass
+ Economy of scale and cheap serial products

- Corruption and conflicts of interest
- Poor quality and low investment in public goods
- Neoclassical basis for mainstream economics [insert essay]
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Skrimskraw on September 04, 2015, 12:26:12 pm
Denmark

+rethburn

-rethburn
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on September 04, 2015, 12:31:16 pm
Guess I'll go as generic as possible.

UK
+ Queen and stuff.
+ Fish and chips (greek lady at the local chippy keeps me alive with just £2 for a full day's worth of the stuff)
+ Can instantly tell where someone hales from by the sound of their accent even as specific as what part of the city/region they are from.
+ Polite conversation (probably about the weather) and British humour.
+ The lingo innit mush.

- Island nation that seems to hate eating fish (unless its sushi)
- Always the buttend of localization in regards to Asian games.
- Jellied eels (its like eating vomit)
- the weather
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: RethBurn on September 04, 2015, 12:33:22 pm
Alright, here we go!

Denmark!

++ Great welfare system
++ Free educational system
+ Strong economy (Triple A economy and self-supplying in oil!)
+ Skrimskraw

- Tiny country
- Wellfare system is at the limits population-wise
- No influence in the world
- Defenseless
- Is next to Sweden.
- Skrimskraw
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Schwalbe on September 04, 2015, 02:21:40 pm
1. Disaster, are you for fuckin' real with this topic? My anarchist sense is tingling.

2. The amount of people not being able to see the particular line ( 5 pluses, 3 minuses ) is too damn high...
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: ShadedExalt on September 04, 2015, 02:50:24 pm
CANADA

 ++ Ice Hockey players (Even better than Slovakia!)
 + Best maple syrup!
 + Healthcare!
 + Most diverse country (Geographically AND people wise) you'll ever see

 - Really fuckin' cold
 - Bears
 - The Leafs will win when hell freezes over
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Kamoba on September 04, 2015, 06:32:27 pm
CANADA

 ++ Ice Hockey players (Even better than Slovakia!)


Pfffftt
You Canadians think you can brag just because you had a flawless victory in the world cup?! I mean its not like a flawless victory has not been seen before.... Or that there's a huge prize for it or anything.....
Oh wait...
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: ShadedExalt on September 11, 2015, 07:05:53 pm
CANADA

 ++ Ice Hockey players (Even better than Slovakia!)


Pfffftt
You Canadians think you can brag just because you had a flawless victory in the world cup?! I mean its not like a flawless victory has not been seen before.... Or that there's a huge prize for it or anything.....
Oh wait...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6bPfHfG8wI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6bPfHfG8wI)
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Kamoba on September 11, 2015, 07:27:24 pm
CANADA

 ++ Ice Hockey players (Even better than Slovakia!)


Pfffftt
You Canadians think you can brag just because you had a flawless victory in the world cup?! I mean its not like a flawless victory has not been seen before.... Or that there's a huge prize for it or anything.....
Oh wait...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6bPfHfG8wI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6bPfHfG8wI)


Caution, link contains swearing and politically incorrect dude, but its for a bit of fun :)
http://youtu.be/iwBR0qwHZBA
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: ShadedExalt on September 11, 2015, 08:05:05 pm
CANADA

 ++ Ice Hockey players (Even better than Slovakia!)


Pfffftt
You Canadians think you can brag just because you had a flawless victory in the world cup?! I mean its not like a flawless victory has not been seen before.... Or that there's a huge prize for it or anything.....
Oh wait...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6bPfHfG8wI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6bPfHfG8wI)


Caution, link contains swearing and politically incorrect dude, but its for a bit of fun :)
http://youtu.be/iwBR0qwHZBA

Ahahaha!  That's fricken' great, it honestly is!
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: BlackenedPies on September 12, 2015, 03:41:18 pm
America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRSUS4WZO5Q
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Schwalbe on September 12, 2015, 05:54:27 pm
America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRSUS4WZO5Q

More like

 (http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a3LAeBQ_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: BlackenedPies on September 12, 2015, 06:08:16 pm
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

(http://pgpf.org/sites/default/files/sitecore/media%20library/PGPF/Chart-Archive/0053_defense-comparison-full.gif)
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Dryykon on September 13, 2015, 11:29:01 am
I like how the most popular version of this image is a smart-phone screen-shot of the image instead of the actual image. America.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7f/f4/35/7ff4357ee339baf2f1458676d9cb687d.jpg)
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on January 10, 2016, 11:41:25 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0F04dax9Fs

russia's guns national anthem during pre match ceremony.
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: C r o w on February 05, 2016, 03:52:21 pm
+best food
+good looking girls
+top notch education quality
+free healthcare

-top notch education quality
-anything that is not aforementioned
-oh, yeah, the laughingstock of Europe

I think you can guess what' say country  :)
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Schwalbe on February 05, 2016, 04:47:25 pm
+best food
+good looking girls
+top notch education quality
+free healthcare

-top notch education quality
-anything that is not aforementioned
-oh, yeah, the laughingstock of Europe

I think you can guess what' say country  :)

No clue.
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: C r o w on February 05, 2016, 04:50:05 pm
Eataly!
What else should I have said to make it easier to guess?
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Schwalbe on February 05, 2016, 05:00:37 pm
- Our captains sink cruisers for shit and giggles
? :D


Edit: Also, you are laughing stock in Europe no longer - Greece took that title, as well as France (at least in Poland)
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: C r o w on February 05, 2016, 05:11:26 pm
I understand why Greece is laughingstock.
*pay debt jokes peek behind a corner*
But would you care to explain why France is too?
The only recent event happening in France, known to me, was the bombing in Paris.
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: C r o w on February 05, 2016, 05:13:35 pm
- Our captains sink cruisers for shit and giggles
If I ever make a clan of my own, this'll be the motto
It's fucking hilarious and perfectly fits the vibe of GoIO
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Schwalbe on February 05, 2016, 05:21:18 pm
The Poland in general is a little more "righty" now. The reason of France being a laughingstock is the general number of immigrants there.

PS: I don't want to see shitstorm around here.

Quote
*pay debt jokes peek behind a corner*

(http://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/pay-debts-greece-ball.gif)


- Our captains sink cruisers for shit and giggles
If I ever make a clan of my own, this'll be the motto
It's fucking hilarious and perfectly fits the vibe of GoIO

For a moment I was affraid I crossed the line; I don't know how do you consider all that Schettino story... (If that's how his name is written, I'm too lazy to check)
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: C r o w on February 05, 2016, 05:32:01 pm
My good man, do not worry! If you see Italians playing not-very-known games and they interest them even in the forums, it's mainly because they are of the open minded kind of people! I myself am defined by others as quite easy going, so unless you really give your all to piss me off, I won't!
And Mr. Schettino was also very laughed at by many Italians anyway
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Schwalbe on February 05, 2016, 05:36:12 pm
Didn't know... all of that. :P Seriously, if I'd own a crystal ball or possess enough clairvoyance, I'd probably make my exam session my bitch.

Oh, wait...
This might've been actually quite an incorrect statement, as per today's state of affairs.
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: C r o w on February 06, 2016, 02:44:09 am
I am...confused by your statement, to say the least, my first thought is that you either fucked up an exam, or literally fucked a teacher.

Edit: Seeing what you wrote in the Feedback and Suggestions section make me think that you actually posted the message on the wrong message board
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Schwalbe on February 06, 2016, 02:49:18 am
Ok, my bad.

I'm going through my exams like a wrecking ball.

None of it can stand my power
.
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: C r o w on February 06, 2016, 02:51:01 am
*confusion increases*
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Schwalbe on February 06, 2016, 02:57:13 am
AND THEY DON'T EVEN SEEM TO OPPOSE ME AT ALL.
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: C r o w on February 06, 2016, 03:08:23 am
*muttering* Probably because you are being backed up by an entire battalion of Winged Hussars
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Carn on February 06, 2016, 09:22:18 am
Nah, he has a few witchers.
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Schwalbe on February 06, 2016, 10:58:13 am
Nah, he has a few witchers.

Heh.
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: BlackenedPies on February 06, 2016, 06:08:23 pm
In case anyone was wondering what the issue with Greece and gov debt debates are about, here's a quick summary
(money=currency=debt)

You can say there's two types of governments: those that use money and those that issue money. Countries that use the Euro, US state govs, and YOU are examples of money users- you use someone else's unit of currency. Money users can go bankrupt by borrowing too much

Money issuers like the US, Canada, and UK can create money out of thin air. It's impossible for a debt issuer to go bankrupt. The risk of creating too much debt is that the value of the currency will go down (ex. inflation)

Inflation is the percent change in the value of currency. Too much or too little inflation can wreck an economy, the US goal is 2% (we're at 0.6%!) (https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=3ja3). Inflation is simply the money flowing in the economy divided by the amount of stuff (goods, services, assets) purchased. So if you add more money in the economy inflation rises, and if the economy makes more stuff without more money then inflation falls. An economy can't grow without increasing amounts of circulating money. Savings don't affect inflation

It's important to understand what government debt is: private money. Total gov debt = total private surplus. US gov debt is all the dollars in the US plus all dollars in every other country. The economy can't grow without more government debt. So when a gov cuts spending they're cutting the amount of money in the private sector. This is deflationary (negative inflation) and is what's killing Greece and other Euro net importers

Look at the graphs and you'll see that gov debt is a mirror of private surplus+foreign surplus
http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/US-sectoral-balances.gif
 (http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/US-sectoral-balances.gif)https://kkalev4economy.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/financial-balances.jpg?w=490&h=346
 (https://kkalev4economy.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/financial-balances.jpg?w=490&h=346)
Nations that are net importers (import more than they export) are at a big disadvantage if they're a currency user because it's a drain on the private sector. The gov spends money but a lot of it goes out of the country, so they have to tax or borrow more to make up for the money leaving. You'll notice the wealthiest Euro govs are net exporters, and the ones that are in trouble are net importers

This is what happened to Greece. They're a high net importer so money drains out and the gov has to tax and borrow more. Greek people traditionally don't pay taxes so this lead to Greece borrowing a lot. By borrowing more and more they drove up the price (interest rate) which made it more expensive to borrow

Here's the important part
This can't happen to a money issuer country because they can't tax or borrow. When the US gov taxes your money it gets deleted from your bank account (they shred physical cash). Poof! It doesn't go anywhere, but it gets marked down on the national account table. +1 gov debt -1 private surplus. Taxes reduce inflation! Taxes take money out of the economy which reduces inflation

When the US borrows money they issue a bond at their own interest rate. The US chooses how much it pays to bond holders, unlike Greece which is forced to pay the market interest rate. This isn't "borrowing" money, in fact it's impossible for a money issuer to borrow their own money. What this does is create the market interest rate and pays bond holders which affects inflation

But hold on...you've always heard that the US has to tax and borrow in order to spend. This used to be true when we were on the Gold Standard, but that was officially disbanded in 1973. This misconception is partly due to how the US Treasury funds itself. Long story short it has the option to mark taxes as credits, issue bonds to the Fed (central bank), or telling the Fed to create money (freely and without limit)

When you hear anything about the US going bankrupt it's due to misunderstanding. We have a "debt limit" which is a relic of the old Gold Standard, but the debt limit must constantly be raised every time it's reached because otherwise we're all fucked: the gov stops issuing money and the economy instantly collapses. The debt limit must constantly be raised if we want the economy to grow because you can't grow without new money. Why do we have a debt limit?

So in conclusion, if you live in a money user nation that's a net importer you're doomed to a weaker economy because money is being drained out which the gov has to pay for, but can only pay for in the long run by taxing people. If you live in a money issuer nation then the "size" of the gov debt doesn't matter, inflation is the issue. If inflation is too low the gov spends more and if it's too high they tax more (US inflation is 0.6%!) (https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/?g=3ja3)

These two systems are completely different from eachother which is the source of confusion
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Hoja Lateralus on February 06, 2016, 11:08:12 pm
*confusion increases*

Communicating with Schwalbe in nutshell :P
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: GeoRmr on February 11, 2016, 09:28:44 am
>tfw GoI community is based

United Kingdom
+God Save The Queen
+Not in the Eurozone

-Part of the EU
-Shed a tear for the empire
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: C r o w on February 11, 2016, 09:32:41 am
>tfw GoI community is based

United Kingdom
+God Save The Queen
+Not in the Eurozone

-Part of the EU
-Shed a tear for the empire


-can never sleep because...

+The Sun never sets...
Title: Re: Describe your nation
Post by: Kamoba on February 11, 2016, 10:55:22 am
England:
Bad enough that I decided to move abroad to central Europe.