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Title: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Indreams on November 16, 2014, 01:10:44 am
A lot of guns in Guns of Icarus has real-world counter parts.

Mortar to grenade launcher, gatling to machine guns, flak to flak, carronade to carronade/shotgun, hwacha to hwacha/rocket artilleries.


But one gun baffles me: lumberjack.

What is a lumberjack? A recoilless artillery? A barrel gun?
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: sparklerfish on November 16, 2014, 01:35:16 am
It's a lumberjack heavy mortar.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Indreams on November 16, 2014, 02:00:09 am
It's a lumberjack heavy mortar.
I refuse that answer.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Riggatto on November 16, 2014, 02:05:10 am
The first thing that comes to my mind is a bolo Cannon. I think that's what it's called. The Cannon which ammo that is two cannonballs attached to a chain that would target the enemies mast
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Indreams on November 16, 2014, 02:23:57 am
(http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/sanctum.gamepedia.com/thumb/2/27/Makeshift_Cannon_(Sanctum_2).png/200px-Makeshift_Cannon_(Sanctum_2).png?version=6e25f33e39d7443d06156b42040589e7)

Searching my memories, I found this, makeshift cannon from Sanctum 2.

Kinda looks like a lumberjack. In fact, give this gun texture and it could fit in as a medium gun.


But I still can't draw a real life parallel. Of course, there doesn't need to be, and lumberjack's still a cool gun that I can never aim.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: DJ Logicalia on November 16, 2014, 02:24:54 am
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/Photos%20Two/Captd-Ger-305mm-mort-Leningrad.jpg)

(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130921000526/gunsoficarusonline/images/c/cc/Lumberjack.png)


Seems pretty Mortar-y to me
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Schwalbe on November 16, 2014, 05:35:38 am
Lumberjack is definitely a mortar.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on December 02, 2014, 06:01:17 pm
but what kinda mortar is more effective to balloons than hull?

they all explode don't they? they should just hurt as much as anywhere.

How lumber is anti-balloon logistically confounds me. What is in the shells and firing mechanism that makes not like a flak?
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Dutch Vanya on December 02, 2014, 09:12:26 pm
but what kinda mortar is more effective to balloons than hull?

they all explode don't they? they should just hurt as much as anywhere.

How lumber is anti-balloon logistically confounds me. What is in the shells and firing mechanism that makes not like a flak?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flechette

Flechette artillery would rip balloons to shreds.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: GeoRmr on December 02, 2014, 09:13:40 pm
but what kinda mortar is more effective to balloons than hull?

they all explode don't they? they should just hurt as much as anywhere.

How lumber is anti-balloon logistically confounds me. What is in the shells and firing mechanism that makes not like a flak?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flechette

Flechette artillery would rip balloons to shreds.

This answer also explains arming distance, and the projectile expansion mechanic 10/10
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on December 02, 2014, 11:18:14 pm
count on clan to be total gun nerds. *salute
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Dutch Vanya on December 02, 2014, 11:43:50 pm
count on clan to be total gun nerds. *salute
I'm not going to pretend i'm really knowledgeable. I just looked up 'flechette' and decided it made sense to me.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: PixelatedVolume on January 04, 2015, 04:18:55 pm
Judging from the way the lumberjack looks and how smoke comes out the back, I'd say its a recoilless rifle.

Lumberjack is definitely a mortar.

Technically mortars only fire above a 45-degree angle, and I'm fairly certain the lumberjack doesn't get that high.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: DrTentacles on January 04, 2015, 04:26:11 pm
It actually has a 60 or 65 degree upward arc. (Can't remember which.)

Usually, though, you're firing at about 30ish.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: PixelatedVolume on January 04, 2015, 04:36:21 pm
It actually has a 60 or 65 degree upward arc. (Can't remember which.)

Usually, though, you're firing at about 30ish.

Then it's a howitzer.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: ShadedExalt on January 04, 2015, 05:28:55 pm
It actually has a 60 or 65 degree upward arc. (Can't remember which.)

Usually, though, you're firing at about 30ish.

Then it's a howitzer.

Nope.  If anything is a howitzer, it's a Mercury or an HFlak.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: PixelatedVolume on January 04, 2015, 05:53:11 pm
Then it's a howitzer.

Nope.  If anything is a howitzer, it's a Mercury or an HFlak.

A howitzer is a cannon that can fire both low-angle and high-angle.  The Mercury is a field gun and the hflak. . . I don't even know what that would be.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: ShadedExalt on January 04, 2015, 05:58:06 pm
I know what a Howitzer is, and it isn't in game.  What I was getting at was that those are the closest we have.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: PixelatedVolume on January 04, 2015, 06:01:46 pm
Oh I see.

Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Indreams on January 04, 2015, 08:28:18 pm
I still haven't figured out, or decided what a lumberjack is.

Now I'm thinking its like a mounted bazooka or something.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: ShadedExalt on January 04, 2015, 08:47:06 pm
I still haven't figured out, or decided what a lumberjack is.

Now I'm thinking its like a mounted bazooka or something.

It LOOKS like an oversized, over-the-shoulder missile launcher.  It BEHAVES like a Mortar with Flechette rounds.  What is this I even can't.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Dutch Vanya on January 04, 2015, 09:05:45 pm
What is the banshee? What is the hades? What is the green disco flare?
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on January 04, 2015, 09:48:07 pm
What is the banshee? What is the hades? What is the green disco flare?

I assume flare guns are made of greek fire. Too unstable to use on flamers so they were used as flare guns. Hence the sudden combustion when it hits parts.

Hades reminds me of tar bombs made in the middle ages thrown out of catapults. It was like a leather ball filled with oil and tar that was lit before launched. I assume a hades is like that but with filled with gun powder as well as oil/propane.

Banshee feel like mini versions of a manticore. They certainly shoot like one with how the rockets never really fly exactly where you're aiming unlike an art. Anyone tried firing them with heavyclip? Might have the same effect.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Schwalbe on January 05, 2015, 03:20:11 am
With heavy it's pinpoint accurate, but it's rather ineffective; banshee's only and righteous ammo is greased, to spread havoc, especially when you have like 3 or 4 of them shooting at the same time; all you need is to hit the goddamn ship.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Piemanlives on January 05, 2015, 03:32:12 am
Banshee feel like mini versions of a manticore. They certainly shoot like one with how the rockets never really fly exactly where you're aiming unlike an art. Anyone tried firing them with heavyclip? Might have the same effect.

You've never fired a Banshee with heavy clip? Huh, and yes it does have the same effect though I tend to use it as a close range weapon so I opt for grease when able.

Also the Banshee (Aka ROCKET CAROUSAL) came first so you could say that the Manticore is the larger version of the banshee.


Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Schwalbe on January 05, 2015, 03:35:01 am
I don't get that ninja part...

Edit: Oh, you deleted that when I was replying. Naughty you...
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Piemanlives on January 05, 2015, 03:47:41 am
:P Still, while I understand the effectiveness of heavy in a banshee, really we just need more shots so misses mean nothing, so GREASED LIGHTNING!
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Replaceable on January 05, 2015, 08:20:43 am
At range heavy clip banshee is amazing, because no spread, but when you are close enough to not miss, greased all the way baby.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: ShadedExalt on January 05, 2015, 08:42:12 am
My 'Shee ammo is Heavy for range/sniping components, Greased for when I want to make the engis scream whenever they hear the distinctive shriek of the rocket, and burst for when I'm aiming at a Pyra from mid range.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Indreams on January 08, 2015, 10:06:33 am
Banshee and Manticore are missile pepperboxes.

An actual missile pepperbox pistol, invented during the Cold War.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZQquSIK7wj0/TebLmueH1jI/AAAAAAAAB_c/LJDY1dIB3jk/s1600/007-YOLT_MKIGyrojet1.jpg)
It's like a portable banshee. I want.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Indreams on January 08, 2015, 10:11:24 am
By the way, if you search up "hwacha" on google images, about the fifth or sixth line (for me) is the manticore hwacha. Proud moment of GOIO player membership.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: ShadedExalt on January 08, 2015, 10:46:51 am
...That's fucking badass.

But a Hwacha is a Hwacha:
(http://www.koreaittimes.com/images/imagecache/medium/wha.jpg)

Ancient weapon that launched a barrage of exploding rocket arrows.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on January 08, 2015, 08:20:44 pm
What bothers me about banshee is that they dun feel solid to shoot. The missles dun feel as solid as any other gun.
The impact is like being hit with a fire cracker than the satisfying boom or shred other guns give,

I want the banshee to satisfy my specific gun fetish needs.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: James T. Kirk on January 08, 2015, 08:27:05 pm
What bothers me about banshee is that they dun feel solid to shoot. The missles dun feel as solid as any other gun.
The impact is like being hit with a fire cracker than the satisfying boom or shred other guns give,

I want the banshee to satisfy my specific gun fetish needs.

tfw someone implies the Banshee isn't perfect.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: ShadedExalt on January 08, 2015, 09:52:55 pm
What bothers me about banshee is that they dun feel solid to shoot. The missles dun feel as solid as any other gun.
The impact is like being hit with a fire cracker than the satisfying boom or shred other guns give,

I want the banshee to satisfy my specific gun fetish needs.

tfw someone implies the Banshee isn't perfect.

Stat wise, effect wise, yes, Kirk.  I even like the sound it makes when it fires.  But the noise when it hits should be some kind of 'CRACK', flame noise rather than now.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Replaceable on January 09, 2015, 03:06:03 am
When banshees don't scream like the mythical beast they are banned after. :(
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: ShadedExalt on January 09, 2015, 09:24:17 am
Moar scream for Banshee is nevar bad.
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: ZnC on January 09, 2015, 10:21:24 am
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1063579-lumberjack_large.jpg)

Sorry guys, I couldn't resist. xD
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: Indreams on January 09, 2015, 10:45:04 am
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3038/2504123849_2781ffbc69.jpg)

I can't resist either. :)
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: David Dire on April 04, 2015, 09:53:54 pm
THIS IS A FUN THREAD





YEAH (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twfor0-CGc4)
Title: Re: What's a lumberjack?
Post by: PixelatedVolume on April 07, 2015, 10:08:55 pm
Rad necro bro.



Still a howitzer