Guns Of Icarus Online
Off-Topic => The Lounge => Topic started by: HamsterIV on November 06, 2014, 03:18:52 pm
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Some times when I take the helm I am calm and collected, other times I am frothing mad. Last night for example I was assigned by match making to a novice pilot with a stupid build. He left the game after the first hwacha volley took out his engines, and stuck me and another engineer with his mess. After loosing the game the other team started bragging about how it was too easy. So I took the open captain's slot with a blender fish and some unkind thoughts running through my head.
With an AI crew and a fortunate mid-game gunner join I was able to eek out a 5-0 win. During the game yelling obscenities at the AI and defiantly flying angry. In some way I think the rage contributes to my piloting skill or in some instances the tone of my voice causes my crew to carry out my orders faster. On several occasions I have been told to "calm down it is just a game," but I propose that the rage fueled beast on the helm is part of the game. So long as it doesn't devolve into personal attacks or harassment putting some fury into your orders is a good thing.
I have flown with enough members of this community to know captains run the spectrum of calm to extremely pissed off, and that mood can even vary by the minute. What have been your experiences with anger on the helm? Is it helpful or harmful to your role as a captain?
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So when I started out in the game, I kept getting angry and doing bad choices, the rage fueling into my own folly. That was when the Flakfish was viable, and I was taught to calm myself and play collected. I started climbing levels and I started to understand just what it meant to actually play the game.
When close-range became a large part of the meta, I started ofcourse, delving with it too. In the start I didn't like it, it was too close to random. I felt it didn't matter if I was a good pilot, so I just got angry when flying and yelling at the enemy ships. Then I realized, that, when I put my emotion and channelled all of that energy into my piloting, I became better. I started thinking how to be relentless and realize that maybe close-range wasn't so random at all. I started feeling glad about my discoveries, and the rage turned into excitement. When I was flying with passion for the game, I flew better than without.
I think it depends on what I do. When I'm pissed off, I become a better squid pilot. If I'm calm, I can do sniping and precision flight. Frankly enough, I become a terrible pyra-pilot when angry.
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I've gotten angry in games. Pretty recently too. Hamster knows. Btw, thank you for your sympathies.
On my bad days, I get on my pyramidion, moonshine, and ram everything until I feel better. My crew complains about Engine health and gun arcs, but I don't care.
If the game makes me mad, I take time off with books and stuff.
I've flown under a few captains and flown with variety of crews. Some are falling asleep on the gun, some are cracking jokes, some are just silent (the worst), and some are drunk (the best).
But I've yet to fly with a blatantly angry people.
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Flying angry is too exhausting for me. I can only do it for a couple matches then I have to stop piloting. Mostly because me being angry while piloting is generally caused by crew who are ignoring me or trolling me or being rude, or are just frustratingly incompetent, and I can't take too many matches in a row of that.
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Couple nights ago I had had a long day, wanted to unwind a bit/not deal with annoying coworkers. Got an engineer who insisted on bringing mallet/buff hammer/extinguisher despite loadout recommendation, yelled at them, still feel bad about it :( If you're out there reading this, I'm sorry..
It's just a game, attacking, saying someone is incompetent/can't do their job is not acceptable when they just want to have fun.
Regarding dq, IMO it's best when a captain sounds calm but has a tone like they care about what happens on the ship. Rage fueled beast on helm is definitely cool as long as they're a good pilot and don't berate crew directly/use slurs. Much better/more fun than a silent pilot.
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I fly tired before I fly angry. I'm sure it comes off as anger tho. When I get tired I stop censoring my thoughts and start to slur my words so it sounds like i'm an angry drunk.
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Huh. I never get angry. Ever. There's only accepting, calm, and listening mode, and sarcastic jokes from inner frustration modes of me. Then again, I haven't captained enough ships to feel the rage that is noob-noob-jerk crews.
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If you have a valid reason to get angry i think you should. Why hold it in? To "act"?
Sometimes raising your voice is the only way to get heard and get a reaction. However when i crew with a ship that has a captain that gets angry WITHOUT reason that annoys me a lot. Or if the reason is a small one. True reactions make a more enjoyable game. A "thank you" or "good job" is also important when things go well.
Personally i mostly don't fly like ever (unless not sober), mostly.. (ref Aliens)
But i might be using mic less and less.. Not just the late timezone as excuse but i just wanna play and see how the game goes.. More action instead of talk guy.. So i'm sorry if that is annoying.. hopefully you can still be silent as long as you listen. I do type crewchat now and then.
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For us veteran players, we get mad because the game just gets wasted. we want (or atleast i do) an OK game or a WINNING game.
OK by no one really leaves, people get upset of what they do but they see it themselves, they see their own mistakes and winning or losing, its OK.
While a WINNING game is a satisfying game where you win versus good and difficult situations or opponents.
A BAD game is when you have people who dont communicate, who makes you not play the game but rather frustrate, terrible cooperation and mistakes done by other people, and being called out for doing mistakes.
but... the WORST kind of game is.
When you know that you will win because you see the opponents are unfitt, either they have a bad game or something. This is worst because there is 0 potential for you to make this a bad game to a OK or WINNING game because it all relies on the opponents. Making you instead of RAGING you simply SIGH and Whimper your crew to kill the ship that tried to go through the pipe with a galleon.
EDIT: But i do fly angry sometimes. Ive lost interrest on telling detailed jobs for each crew people when the game starts anymore because ive done it too many times so it gets tiresome. And BECAUSE OF THAT my anger is actualy unjustice. However, every time i do give in detailed description for each crew on game start, and they do crappy mistakes i can really make them NOT want to fuck up cause this time its Justfull :) But in the end, i actualy dont get angry that often.
What angers me the most is crew who dont listen, for real this is what bursts my bubble. Especialy when the crew cant hear me because he disabled voice chat. That to me is the most frustrating, wastefull rage cus by the time you figure out he cant hear you. You just feel wasted... not in the drunk sense.
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I always fly angry, engineer angry, sometimes even eat breakfast angry.
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I always fly angry, engineer angry, sometimes even eat breakfast angry.
When you cook pasta do you simmer with rage?
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The mere thought of pasta infuriates me.
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Sometimes raising your voice is the only way to get heard and get a reaction. However when i crew with a ship that has a captain that gets angry WITHOUT reason that annoys me a lot.
Last time I got REALLY angry was when russian captain (MishkaTheGreat? something like that?) started yelling at us constantly "HULL REPAIR THE HULL REPAIR THE HULL REPAIR THE HULL", what we were actually constantly doing, it's only he, who flew right between two ship, and at least 3 gats shooting at us AT ONCE. I REPAIR, BUT YOU, ANGSTY ASSHOLE OF A CAPTAIN ARE RUINING MY BLOODY EFFORTS.
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I'll admit to falling victim to this at times, mostly due to allied ship incompetence. Given that frothing rage isn't exactly the best copilot, I tend to content myself with a litany similar to 'Well, scoundrel, you'll be on the other team next match and I shall bestow upon thee such a wallop for this verminous performance; see if I don't!' Disclaimer: Contents of rant not verified by inspector. Open at own risk.
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I am a very talkative pilot, as most people that know me will tell you. I tell my crew when to shoot, when to fix, and when to not, all while telling the odd story or talking about some recipe or other random things completely unrelated to the game.
When I get really mad, I stop talking and generally go completely quiet. Win or not, the match is no longer fun and I am just waiting for it to get over.
If I am mildly upset at someone, say, for not bringing what I told them over and over as a gunner, I will do my best to make sure they never get a shot.
If I am irate at a rude crew on the other team, I take greased Hades Funhouse.
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I get upset at incompetence, but otherwise I'm a pretty laid back pilot. I never insult my crew and I'm extremely supportive of them, and generally a lot of fun to fly for since when things get heated I sing and shout battle-cries and other in-character stuff. I'd say that it's more a matter of passionate flying versus 'angry' flying. I'd argue that anyone who gets angry and flustered when piloting is going to perform poorly.
As a crew member though, it pisses me off to no end when the captain tries to blame teammates or the game for a defeat. I can accept it if a crewmember makes that observation first, but if a captain starts going on a soap-box rant about how the Spire is underpowered because we just got sandwiched to splinters by a metamidion my ire will be aroused.
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Yes I'm a n00b. Yes I am technically a powder monkey. But the goddamn Powder Monkeys piss me off so bad I can't even articu-
head asplodes
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I don't get angry, I get miney. Then blocky...then miney again...then I go chase Captain Phoenix for awhile...then I get ultra miney...then happy.
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I don't get angry, I get miney. Then blocky...then miney again...then I go chase Captain Phoenix for awhile...then I get ultra miney...then happy.
Captain Phoenix always tried to avoid Clan Clan's mines, because we are "boring" to him.
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My mood is very ... sporadic from day to day within GoIO. Perhaps, dare I say it... match to match. Playing with knuckleheads that don't listen to me can get on my nerves, quite a bit. I have a tendacy to get a little chatty with my crewmates, captains, or otherwise.
it's not like I /hate/ ignorance. I spend a lot of time explaining things to new players that aren't even lvl 6+ yet, things that i didn't learn until I was 500 matches deep into GoIO, still thinking that I can bring a buff hammer / pipe wrench to main deck a pyra!
It's odd, because I feel that it's a journey. You start, having no idea wtf you're doing, or how to even literally even, and over time you start to learn things, and then later on you realize "bro I was so dumb before why was I trying to argue that a spanner pairs great with pipe wrench."
Then, you wake up;
Now you realize how everything works as a unit, and if one lippy-noob doesn't bring the right tools, that's going to be GG because you just joined a match where SPQR brought another pre-made (lol) and the matchmaking system decided to drop them into a novice match. (srsly, wtf...)
Actually, nvm; it's SPQR... it's already GG and the ready checks haven't even shown up.
And that's where it begins for me. The anger. The Frustration. Frothing about behind my teeth and reaching a boil, until finally the pot overflows.
You want to fly a gat/mortar pyra? Fine. but WOULD YOU PLEASE PUT THE GATLING ON THE RIGHT SIDE FFS THIS IS THE 14TH TIME I'VE TRIED EXPLAINING THIS SUBLTE YET SUPER IMPORTANT THING TO YOU!
or, one of my personal favorites, "JUST ACCEPT THE LOADOUT! THE RANGE FINDER IS BROKEN, OBSOLETE, AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE ANY ARCING WEAPONS. STOP BEING A REBEL WITH NO CAUSE AND L2P PL0X KTHX."
perhaps even followed by something a bit more tame but infinitely more cheeky "Bro don't worry about that one enemy that is shooting me with all 4 of it's guns while you "try to flank them around this boulder" with one of the SLOWEST F@%*ING SHIPS IN THE GAME DUDE, THAT TACTIC SOUNDS PRO AS BALLS, I BET IT'S GONNA BE THE NEW META WHEN THIS MATCH IS OVER, IMAGINE IS GONNA BE ALL OVER THAT LIVE-STREAM! #REKT"
But yah, I tend to keep it to myself a lot these days. I channel the rage and frustration through more meaningful and productive means:
Propagating my spite onto others through bullets and bloodshed.
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IMAGINE IS GONNA BE ALL OVER THAT LIVE-STREAM!
Not sure if this last bit is sarcastic or serious.
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IMAGINE IS GONNA BE ALL OVER THAT LIVE-STREAM!
Not sure if this last bit is sarcastic or serious.
Not sure if this whole post is sarcastic or a personal attack.
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IMAGINE IS GONNA BE ALL OVER THAT LIVE-STREAM!
Not sure if this last bit is sarcastic or serious.
Not sure if this whole post is sarcastic or a personal attack.
Relatively sarcastic, just to clear that up, lol.
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IMAGINE IS GONNA BE ALL OVER THAT LIVE-STREAM!
Not sure if this last bit is sarcastic or serious.
Not sure if this whole post is sarcastic or a personal attack.
Relatively sarcastic, just to clear that up, lol.
To be fair here, I don't think I get it :D
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I don't often take out my frustrations on my crew, unless the are genuinely trolling the ship, if someone is putting in the effort or there is a visible language barrier I keep my cool, what gets my rage level to optimum point for rage flight is the team mates who insult my crew or clan, they can insult me, I don't care, I'll normally ignore it, but any time someone insults a friend I easily loose any cool I had, and people soon discover I know more swear words in multiple languages than I know non-swears...
The other thing that flicks my switch... The cheap racism the sale Call of duty pricks bring with them...
"Go back to russia" "that foreign chick with the ****ed accent." Or "learn English or shut up and go home"
All the above have led to me raging, targeting ships specifically and ignoring anyone else on the playing field... The few commands heard by my crew "kill the racist ****s." "There they are."
Oh and the kids who mock the Ebola situation... They deserve a special place in hell.
I'm pretty new to the community but I know none of the bulk of the active community fall amongst the rotten puss filled scum that flick my switches...
Peace and love to all excel the aforementioned <3
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Trolls getting on your nerves, already warned them, yet there're no mods around? Bring a munker. Kill them with mines. It's satisfying as hell, especially when you and the enemies team up, and collectively attack a them, you with mines, the opposite team with their weaponry. For me, that's how I enforce discipline. Works great when it is done correctly. However, Those assholes, insensitive little bastards who are all like "Heil hitler" or some form of anti-jewish crap pisses me off to the fullest extent, the only way trolls get under my skin. If it's in chat, I roast them. If its in a match, I roast them, skin them alive, and then serve them as part of a five-course meal of examples of what not to do. I'm Jewish. Ethnic Jewish. You try to fuck with me and shit relating to my ethnicity and you'll actually see me lose it. I never lose my cool except in those kinds of situations, and my fury cannot be simply held back. It consumes all, boiling them in a sea of rage. For that, I bring in the all mine, all gunner munker firing squad, armed with lochnagar, incendiary, and charged. They get hell, which is what that sort of action deserves. I'm not lenient when it comes to dishing out that kind of mania.
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being no affiliate of any major clan, I commonly suffer the joys of the lucky dip that is joining games solo.
I teach with sarcasm and I prepare for the worst case scenario (I've mastered flying with no skills on since novice level- its how ur meant to learn), I rant and rave and demand and judge every single action anyone not major lvled makes. (because by lvl 25+ you've been drilled to hell on the bare minimum on what's expected)
People under the pressure get better, learn faster, or ragequit by which point lol, I'm leader of Clan AI. If anyone can win with AI it's me.
And if some guy out of everyone on the ship is clearly saying all the right things and your noob captain is doing all the wrong things. They're going to listen to the dude that knows both wtf he's doing and wtf everyone else should be doing. Even if the guy is being a douche.
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I suppose the best example of flying angry is LeonXross.
When you are doing right things as you were said, he'll be calm. You know you are doing really good if your name is not mentioned in sentences like "X, why are you not on balloon?"; if such thing happens, God have mercy upon you if you are not half way to mentioned position. If you'd go from predestined position when not asked, he'll get to want have your head smashed on the wall, because he can't do this literally - you'll get yelled immedietely. What might be surprising - this is still just one final warning, when Leon is just on the brink of pure hatred towards you. Harsh? Meh.
On the other hand, when not absolutely livid, he teaches people aboard, tells them ropes, and he do this very patiently and kindly. The highest reward are two things - not being yelled at and victory, cause Leon is really a decent pilot, with insane loadout ideas and one of the best ninja-tactic skills I've ever seen (FFS - sneaking up with that fat-ass cow of galleon, completely unnoticed right behind you - that was traumatic).
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I commonly suffer the joys of the lucky dip
If you are trying to introduce "Lucky Dip" into the comunity lexicon you may want to define it in this thread:
https://gunsoficarus.com/community/forum/index.php/topic,5025.0.html
As for cajoling new players into following orders I find nothing beats emotional black mail. I was taught the art by the best in the world, my Mother. Every time I make a novice engineer or gunner feel lower than dirt for failing the ship in some manner, I am channeling her.
"If you had brought the ammunition I requested, we would have stripped his hull armor by now."
"A competent gunner could have killed him five times already, so it begs the question why is he still alive?"
"They are out tanking us because somebody had to bring along his stupid little buff hammer, I hope you are proud of yourself."
"We were counting on you to be at your position, what were you doing over there?"
"How could you miss at this range?"
"Because of your incompetence we die here."
"You have failed the team, you have failed your crew mates, and worst of all you have failed ME!"
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"How could you miss at this range?"
It reminds me of: http://youtu.be/zYV-qYeWPkk?t=56s (http://youtu.be/zYV-qYeWPkk?t=56s)
I find nothing beats emotional black mail. I was taught the art by the best in the world, my Mother.
Pardon my insolence, my kind sir, but yer mother knows nothing about these arcanes of emotional terrorism comparing to mine. And honestly, I'm ultimately joyful, that I moved out of her this october, so I can avoid that.
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I commonly suffer the joys of the lucky dip
If you are trying to introduce "Lucky Dip" into the comunity lexicon you may want to define it in this thread:
https://gunsoficarus.com/community/forum/index.php/topic,5025.0.html
As for cajoling new players into following orders I find nothing beats emotional black mail. I was taught the art by the best in the world, my Mother. Every time I make a novice engineer or gunner feel lower than dirt for failing the ship in some manner, I am channeling her.
"If you had brought the ammunition I requested, we would have stripped his hull armor by now."
"A competent gunner could have killed him five times already, so it begs the question why is he still alive?"
"They are out tanking us because somebody had to bring along his stupid little buff hammer, I hope you are proud of yourself."
"We were counting on you to be at your position, what were you doing over there?"
"How could you miss at this range?"
"Because of your incompetence we die here."
"You have failed the team, you have failed your crew mates, and worst of all you have failed ME!"
If it picks up it picks up.
As for your tactics. You monster. (ok I do it too. but only to mortar engie that keeps jumping off the damn upper deck of a Pyra to "help")