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Title: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: sparklerfish on August 16, 2014, 08:02:58 pm
Ever been in a full 2v2 lobby with a full spectate ship and thought, "Man, we could totally fill a 3v3 right now?"

Ever been in a 3v3 or 4v4 lobby that had half emptied out and thought, "I'd love to have all these same people in a 2v2?"

I mean, I know you can always just make a new lobby, and hope that people follow you over, but it would be cool if there were an option for the participants to vote to add or subtract a pair of ships to the existing lobby.
Title: Re: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: shaelyn on August 16, 2014, 10:43:08 pm
ooooOOOOoooooo now that's a good idea...
Title: Re: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: Canon Whitecandle on August 16, 2014, 11:16:49 pm
I am totally behind this. Oh Muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse~
Title: Re: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: Piemanlives on August 16, 2014, 11:54:05 pm
That would certainly be a bit of a nifty feature, personally behind this. Though certain measures would have to be taken, for instance if you have a 3v3 and a few ships empty but you still have a few people scattered about all 6 ships, when you switch over to 2v2 we'd have to make sure that doing so doesn't kick them from the lobby.
Title: Re: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: sparklerfish on August 17, 2014, 12:11:42 am
Yeah, I was thinking you'd only be able to delete a pair if there were actually an entirely empty ship on each team.
Title: Re: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: macmacnick on August 17, 2014, 01:40:13 am
Voting option maybe?
Title: Re: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: Horatio Leafblower on August 18, 2014, 06:59:14 pm
What an excellent idea!!
The ability to add or subtract pairs of ships from an existing lobby will prevent a lot of  empty lobbies just laying about because everyone left them to play a smaller (or larger) lobby
Just think of the gaming possibilities for "mini-tournaments"...you start out with a 4v4 and at the end of the match each team loses a ship (lowest scoring, or most killed or voted off) then the lobby becomes a 3v3...then a 2v2 until there is only one!

I think we should let the MUSE devs know that this is something we really want!!
Title: Re: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: Queso on August 18, 2014, 07:38:49 pm
Random off-topic comment: Why do so many people capitalize Muse Games as MUSE?
Title: Re: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: -Mad Maverick- on August 18, 2014, 07:57:24 pm
cuz we get excited every time we say MUSE!
Title: Re: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: obliviondoll on August 20, 2014, 06:57:33 am
Random off-topic comment: Why do so many people capitalize Muse Games as MUSE?

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TOKEN ON-TOPIC COMMENT: I approve of this suggestion, and think it would be cool if there's a practical way to implement it.
Title: Re: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: Hoja Lateralus on August 20, 2014, 03:18:51 pm
Great idea, +1
Title: Re: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: Yarr Vinny Scarr on August 20, 2014, 06:20:29 pm
That would change the map to, i think?  Because doing a raid on the refinery on 2v2 is quite boring I think ;-)
Title: Re: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: sparklerfish on August 20, 2014, 06:31:27 pm
Hmmm, maybe it would then reset the map choice and there'd be a new vote.
Title: Re: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: Yarr Vinny Scarr on August 20, 2014, 06:46:16 pm
What if the 2v2 map is full, even the spectator's slots, everybody votes the 3v3 map but after that people leave because of the differend map's change. Then you still lose people and  the game will not launch. (you will still need extra people because of the 8 extra slots, + extra lobby waiting time)

I think it's quite hard and challanging to make a system that could support this.
 
What about this idea?
Make 2 games that finish around the same time merge with eachother? (like 2 european games that finished their game merging to a 4v4? Or let the people vote to merge those 2 games?)
Title: Re: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: sparklerfish on August 20, 2014, 06:53:41 pm
Well, after any match there's a chance people will leave after the new map vote.  If it switches to 3v3 and tons of people leave after the map is selected, the participants could choose to either wait for it to fill up, or vote to switch it back to a 2v2.  I don't foresee that as being as big of a problem as the "snowball effect" that already often occurs after a match in which one person leaves and then suddenly half the lobby leaves too, which is what prompted me to think of the removing ships option.
Title: Re: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: Hoja Lateralus on August 22, 2014, 03:23:14 pm
Howard said it is possible and if we "really want it" Muse can do it. Although Devs wondered for a minute whether it will work well (or even needed) with matchmaking system.
Title: Re: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: -Mad Maverick- on August 22, 2014, 05:41:15 pm
I want it badly
Title: Re: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: shaelyn on August 22, 2014, 08:35:48 pm
oh yeah, it'd be super helpful to just edit the thing right there and not have to go back out of the lobby and let matchmaking do its thing all over again or try to get the match set up all over again.
Title: Re: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: sparklerfish on August 22, 2014, 08:53:15 pm
Well, with matchmaking, you'd go to a whole new lobby with a whole new set of people, wouldn't you?  Correct me if I'm wrong -- I haven't participated in any of the matchmaking tests yet.  If I have a few crews I've been enjoying playing with but suddenly there is too much space to fill the other ships, I'd rather have the option to stick with them and just remove the empty ships (or add ships if others want to join or whatever) :)
Title: Re: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: Hoja Lateralus on September 17, 2014, 06:16:29 pm
Sent it to the Devs and the Add/Remove ship option was called literally "UI and logistical nightmare", so probably we shouldn't expect this to be done.

Edit: I see that my previous post says completely different. To clarify - the previous post is based on Fireside Chat and this post is based on e-mail exchange. So it may have been like "Oh, sure, it's a great idea" then after some thinking "...but it's too much of a hustle to make"
Title: Re: Add/Subtract Ships from Matches Option
Post by: shaelyn on September 17, 2014, 07:55:02 pm
Well, with matchmaking, you'd go to a whole new lobby with a whole new set of people, wouldn't you?  Correct me if I'm wrong -- I haven't participated in any of the matchmaking tests yet.  If I have a few crews I've been enjoying playing with but suddenly there is too much space to fill the other ships, I'd rather have the option to stick with them and just remove the empty ships (or add ships if others want to join or whatever) :)

unless everyone went to crew formation together.  I expect crew formation is going to get a lot more use when matchmaking's implemented to play with friends and clanmates, too.

Sent it to the Devs and the Add/Remove ship option was called literally "UI and logistical nightmare", so probably we shouldn't expect this to be done.

boo!
yeah they probably looked into what it'd take to make it happen.