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Title: Food in this world
Post by: Maximum on January 05, 2015, 04:53:29 pm
Hey there! New to the forums and for some reason I feel like I need to ask about what you guys think the food in the Guns of Icarus world is like.

Ive been playing the game for a while, and the character I play as Ive imagined her having a fondness for lolipops and always having one in her mouth.  The lolipops themselves probably being made of caramel or hardened molasses, covered in some sort of chocolate or maybe even honey.
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/b96778a0e8e21f6f03ad731a5439bbab/tumblr_nhq4o09DLi1r5z40vo1_1280.png)

So do you guys have any ideas for for foods specifically found in GoI? Popular dishes? Special meals served in specific regions? Common rations brought aboard the airships?
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on January 05, 2015, 05:01:03 pm
I imagine like most universes set in  fantasy era, all the food would be delicacies from the victorian era-middle ages.

Where fruit and spices are traded at high prices due to their exotic nature and difficulty of maintaining their quality.
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: Richard LeMoon on January 05, 2015, 06:26:07 pm
Rats, mostly. Also... no, just rats.

(http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/pb-100315-rat-cannon.jpg)
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on January 05, 2015, 06:41:42 pm
but sky whales
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: ShadedExalt on January 05, 2015, 09:20:05 pm
but sky whales

I swear to god, when we finally get Skywhales, I'm going to open a burger shop.
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on January 05, 2015, 09:51:45 pm
but sky whales

I swear to god, when we finally get Skywhales, I'm going to open a burger shop.

I'm gonna open an all you can meat flying bistro and call it Peta. Alternatively I'd cally it sky monstro.
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: ShadedExalt on January 05, 2015, 10:10:05 pm
but sky whales

I swear to god, when we finally get Skywhales, I'm going to open a burger shop.

I'm gonna open an all you can meat flying bistro and call it Peta. Alternatively I'd cally it sky monstro.

...We could team up!  Should we build another ship, or use one that's already there?  The Galleon has plenty of unused space in it's main engine room...  But the Mobula is bread-like, and it's a merchant ship...
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: Alexor Huxley on January 05, 2015, 10:17:17 pm
Yeah, I'd imagine real food is enormously expensive.

Given that most of the world map is desert and/or barren wasteland, agriculture is probably an almost exclusively Chaladonian phenomenon. Sure, the wonders of living plantlife may be spread around by the Guild, but realistically dwellers of the Burren and Arashi Desert only have agriculture in a very limited, Dust Bowl capacity. Roots. If they're lucky, they might catch some exotic desert yak. Angleans can support themselves a little more effectively with fishing the arctic waters; likewise with the Fjord-dwellers.

The Yesha Empire would have better luck hunting mountain game in the Rusted Range and supporting their people that way. The comparative abundance of food could explain their expansionist interests.

But yeah. I imagine everybody is pretty emaciated most of the time. Post-apocalyptia has never been a place of abundance, and I don't think GoI would be an exception to this rule.
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: ShadedExalt on January 05, 2015, 10:21:19 pm
Yeah, I'd imagine real food is enormously expensive.

Given that most of the world map is desert and/or barren wasteland, agriculture is probably an almost exclusively Chaladonian phenomenon. Sure, the wonders of living plantlife may be spread around by the Guild, but realistically dwellers of the Burren and Arashi Desert only have agriculture in a very limited, Dust Bowl capacity. Roots. If they're lucky, they might catch some exotic desert yak. Angleans can support themselves a little more effectively with fishing the arctic waters; likewise with the Fjord-dwellers.

The Yesha Empire would have better luck hunting mountain game in the Rusted Range and supporting their people that way. The comparative abundance of food could explain their expansionist interests.

But yeah. I imagine everybody is pretty emaciated most of the time. Post-apocalyptia has never been a place of abundance, and I don't think GoI would be an exception to this rule.

Have a Salute, for being serious where I was not.

o7
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on January 05, 2015, 10:35:52 pm
but sky whales

I swear to god, when we finally get Skywhales, I'm going to open a burger shop.

I'm gonna open an all you can meat flying bistro and call it Peta. Alternatively I'd cally it sky monstro.

...We could team up!  Should we build another ship, or use one that's already there?  The Galleon has plenty of unused space in it's main engine room...  But the Mobula is bread-like, and it's a merchant ship...

We could be a chain of flying fighting food boats.
Also I think I found our advert.
http://youtu.be/gFq0oiRZRbs?t=5m45s

Yeah, I'd imagine real food is enormously expensive.

Given that most of the world map is desert and/or barren wasteland, agriculture is probably an almost exclusively Chaladonian phenomenon. Sure, the wonders of living plantlife may be spread around by the Guild, but realistically dwellers of the Burren and Arashi Desert only have agriculture in a very limited, Dust Bowl capacity. Roots. If they're lucky, they might catch some exotic desert yak. Angleans can support themselves a little more effectively with fishing the arctic waters; likewise with the Fjord-dwellers.

The Yesha Empire would have better luck hunting mountain game in the Rusted Range and supporting their people that way. The comparative abundance of food could explain their expansionist interests.

But yeah. I imagine everybody is pretty emaciated most of the time. Post-apocalyptia has never been a place of abundance, and I don't think GoI would be an exception to this rule.

All hunting is with airships.
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: Dutch Vanya on January 05, 2015, 10:47:57 pm
Welcome to Mobula's Aerial Pub & Grille, home of the finest rat burger in the skies.
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: Alexor Huxley on January 05, 2015, 10:56:25 pm
Quote from: Ceresbane
All hunting is with airships.
I would argue that people wouldn't waste their resources fueling airships for something as relatively menial as hunting, unless they lived so deep in the desert that not even hardy arid-climate game existed. Which would imply absolutely zero fresh water, which would further imply that people wouldn't be there anyway.

Since this is a steampunk universe, airship propellers are spun via steam engine. This means that the engine consumes both water and hard-wrought natural resources like coal (or, in a pinch, wood - whatever they're burning). The game they'd capture on a hunting expedition with an airship wouldn't efficiently feed their community to extract those resources.

Thus, I'd suggest that airships are used for freight and picking a fight, and any derivatives thereof. Anything that could produce an immediate profit, but not as a means to the simple end of subsisting.
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on January 05, 2015, 11:24:57 pm
Quote from: Ceresbane
All hunting is with airships.
I would argue that people wouldn't waste their resources fueling airships for something as relatively menial as hunting, unless they lived so deep in the desert that not even hardy arid-climate game existed. Which would imply absolutely zero fresh water, which would further imply that people wouldn't be there anyway.

Since this is a steampunk universe, airship propellers are spun via steam engine. This means that the engine consumes both water and hard-wrought natural resources like coal (or, in a pinch, wood - whatever they're burning). The game they'd capture on a hunting expedition with an airship wouldn't efficiently feed their community to extract those resources.

Thus, I'd suggest that airships are used for freight and picking a fight, and any derivatives thereof. Anything that could produce an immediate profit, but not as a means to the simple end of subsisting.

I was saying a funny thing by saying a ridiculous thing... but fine let me remove my silly pants and put on my serious tighty whiteys.
Given the resource inequality of the various factions. One would think all of the factions are in highly important trade dealings.

One side has the resources to create technology while the other has the resources to keep an army on it's stomach. As such many conflicts between factions are highly localised within neighbouring borders, while "allied" factions maintain the warfront with supplies and resources which opposing neighbouring allies try to intercept and steal.

In that regard, food is likely the same whereever you go and maybe a few local recipe variation to differentiate, due to what fresh ingredients are on hand. Only upper class of any faction ever see anything exotic, not because they are particularly expensive (perhaps to import), but because these particular foods are left reserved for the upper classes to exclusively own, via rights to the lands and equipment and seeds and breeding farms that are not owned to trade away goods. But to exclusively be pocketed for their own leisurely dining.

Anything that is exported is likely procured through illegal means.
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: ShadedExalt on January 06, 2015, 12:55:09 am
Welcome to Mobula's Aerial Pub & Grille, home of the finest whale burger in the skies.

Fix'd
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: Lieutenant Noir on January 06, 2015, 06:01:14 am
I had the impression that terrain in this world had such unfit geometry that sea and land transport was unfit for trade, thus relying on the air for trade transportation. In this case, I don't think land cultivation and farming would fit such an uneven plane and you'd need the resources to properly maintain a population that supports an army.

I could defiantly see a "spire-like" vertical farming ship that supports on it's many levels or stories, rows and rows of crops
--Each level would support crops at an inclined plane to Maximize the surface area of crops exposed to sunlight.
--It could also spin while in the air to allow all crops to be exposed no matter what direction the sun is facing
--Kinda like this
     crops      _l l_      crops
     crops   _l       l_   crops
     crops_l             l_crops
--Being at such high altitudes, farmers would close off their crops in a translucent material. This is because high concentrations of winds mean increased transpiration and low temperatures, both are bad for max crop yield (Basically u want a floating greenhouse)
--The high temperatures resulted from the greenhouse-like environment could mean that the water vapor from clouds exposed to the translucent material could condense into water, thus funnel into the water supply.
--The bottom of the balloon (if the balloon is on top) could have a mirror-like material to reflect sunlight back onto the crops if the sun is setting at an angle where it is no longer shining above the crops.
That or the farmers on the ship could manually angle mechanical mirrors to shine sunlight onto the crops if the sun is below the ship.

I mean it's either this or an absolute crap ton of fishing

I could defiantly see Sky Whales as the most legendary, exotic delicacy reserved to only gods among men. Lets face it; they're big, can't hide anywhere, and we humans have a tendency to eradicate all the big and intimidating animals on earth.
-Don't deny it you want to hunt them, and there is now a reason as to why they're so ephemeral (besides, in the lore it stated that the ancients hunted giants)
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: ShadedExalt on January 06, 2015, 08:09:46 am
New theory; Juggernaut was actually a whaling ship.
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: Indreams on January 06, 2015, 10:46:06 am
Well, I think Chaladon has farms, ranches and orchards. I'm pretty sure Yeshans have something like a golden field of grains.

I'm going to guess that fishing is still sort of possible in some places of the world.

Mecantile guild probably trades in food. Arashi would raid those ships for food.

Baronies probably have medieval style manorialism and farming.

Angleans... I wouldn't be surprised if they ate rocks of the mountains.
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: ShadedExalt on January 06, 2015, 10:55:50 am
Angleans... I wouldn't be surprised if they ate rocks of the mountains.

And the souls of the damned.

Seriously, though, I'd imagine they'd eat reindeer, or mountain goats, along with the food they get from raiding.
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: Indreams on January 06, 2015, 11:14:51 am
Angleans... I wouldn't be surprised if they ate rocks of the mountains.

And the souls of the damned.

Seriously, though, I'd imagine they'd eat reindeer, or mountain goats, along with the food they get from raiding.

I'm thinking Yak butter Tea? Like the ones Tibetans drink?

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0077/8972/files/Tibet-Yak-Butter-Tea.jpg?3137)

Yak Butter is a good source of Protein. Tea is a good source of plant-based nutrients not plentiful in the Himalayas. I guess Angleans would drink something like this.
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: ShadedExalt on January 06, 2015, 12:17:00 pm
You always think of Chaladonians when you think 'tea', but that makes a lot of sense.  I'd bet that they subsist off more meat, than anything.
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: Indreams on January 06, 2015, 03:16:04 pm
Chaladonians are probably fruit eaters and wine drinkers. Yeshans grain/starch eaters and beer/rice wine drinkers. Mercantiles fish eaters and moonshine drinkers. Baronies fish and cabbage eaters and ale drinkers. Angleans meat eaters and milk drinkers. Arashi rat eaters and no drinkers.

There's probably some stereotypes related to food in GOIO. Anglean milk drinkers... :D. I think I have a new propaganda.
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: Squidslinger Gilder on January 06, 2015, 09:18:37 pm
Baronies have heavy furs in their outfits so they'd have both hunting and a clear flock tending lifestyle. I'd imagine some areas to be kinda like Scottish highlands.

Chaladon is kind of a paradise so it would be a major agricultural society. Also this helps them stand independent. Food is power. Agricultural societies only decline as a departure from agriculture happens. US used to be a major agriculture nation, much more than it is now, but we shifted to industry which is a lot easier than farm life. Trouble is you have to then import more food. That makes you dependent on foreign powers.

Yesha, its chinese. Rice, starch. There is rivers around so some fresh water fishing. They are a major expansionist power so they'd need the resources to support this. Expect their food to probably be the best in the world.

Anglea, yeah mostly fishing or hydroponics to supplement raiding. Cities are both exposed and under the ice. Given ancient technology, I could see them subsisting on some indoor farming.

Arashi, scavengers. Some crops but sandy soil so you can't get a variety. Likely most growing would be around oasis zones. In fact their largest town is centered around one. Rest would be pirating Guild or Yeshan vessels.

Guild...probably a lot of imports. If you look at the map, much of the surrounding areas look like former battlefields. However, cities would have sprang up around something so I'd guess they have clean water sources or at least some kind of water source for the city to be there. However, likely much of their food comes from Abermar next door. Huge valley/river system. Why it isn't under Guild control could be because of business dealings.

Aside from that, there are lots of food possibilities in the independent towns in the north. Theres an entire grassland area as well as multiple forests.
Title: Re: Food in this world
Post by: Indreams on January 22, 2015, 01:01:59 pm
Arashi, scavengers. Some crops but sandy soil so you can't get a variety. Likely most growing would be around oasis zones. In fact their largest town is centered around one. Rest would be pirating Guild or Yeshan vessels.

When people think Oasis towns, they think a hole in the ground and few little structures, but in fact, some Oasis towns are massive.

Many major centers in the silk road was based on Oasis's. For example, Gaochang is an ancient oasis town built in the inhospitable Taklamakan desert. These are some of what remains today.
(http://www.youlinmagazine.com/articles/The%20Ancient%20Town%20of%20Gaochang.jpg) (http://www.toocle.com/image/travel//2009/09/10/35/100635_1.jpg)

Arashi cities would have many many wells to tap into that underground water (that is exposed in an oasis). I can see date tree orchards,  millets, or draught tolerant variety of barley. And when I think Arashi, I think goats. Herds of goats.