Guns Of Icarus Online

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Title: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Indreams on October 29, 2014, 07:24:49 pm
This isn't a typical guide, recommending builds or play style.

Just out of curiosity, I've made several graphs to compare ships in Guns of Icarus Online.
The attached file is the outcome of my little experiment.
It's compressed and divided into two parts because the forum won't let me attach a big file.

I hope the graphs helps whether you are choosing a ship, writing a guide, designing a new ship, or just studying trivia.

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If you have any comments or criticism, I’d be happy to receive them.
If there are any errors (typos, grammar, or data), I’d be happy to edit them.

Feel free to use any of these graphs in your work (guides, forum posts, etc.). In fact, I’d be honored if these graphs are of any use.

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If you’d like a personalized graph, you can email me at gamindreams@gmail.com. I’ll try to answer back by the end of the week.
Word of caution, if you send me spam, I will block you, permanently.
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Indreams on October 29, 2014, 07:25:46 pm
This is the part two of the attachment.
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: GeoRmr on October 29, 2014, 07:26:23 pm
WOAH, COOL!

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Zirilfer on October 30, 2014, 06:21:18 am
Awesome, However on the "threat page" The spire is listed as having 2 medium guns, it only has one.
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Replaceable on October 30, 2014, 06:42:56 am
excellent work :D
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Indreams on October 30, 2014, 11:28:56 am
Revised Part II.

Spire now has 1 medium gun.


Addendum, with the personalized graphs,
I can easily give you different colors, themes, and datas. I can also add your newly designed ship on a graph. Anything else, contact me.

It's free of charge.
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: DJ Logicalia on October 30, 2014, 04:29:48 pm
This is super rad, thanks :D
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Crafeksterty on December 17, 2014, 02:03:53 pm
This is going to be difficult

But would be nice for ship size comparison.

It will end up being super theoretical but it counts to how a junkers hull is super small versus a galleon.
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Indreams on December 17, 2014, 03:28:42 pm
This is going to be difficult

But would be nice for ship size comparison.

It will end up being super theoretical but it counts to how a junkers hull is super small versus a galleon.

When I can find the data and figure out a good way to display it, I'll give it a shot. Right now, I'm inundated with College applications, Scholarship applications, and finals.
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Crafeksterty on December 17, 2014, 07:31:36 pm
I think reasearching if the ships are at the same size if you select them ingame.
How they first appear, is it the same size as how other ships first appear?

I think its pretty close. I usually assume that squids are much smaller than i think but actually they are pretty sizable to other ships.


Taking a screenshot from ship selection of how they appear on a side view, then compare it in transparent manner of images.
Still dont know if how they are displayed stays ture to the size
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Crafeksterty on December 17, 2014, 07:56:36 pm
This is based on my photoshopping from ship selection.

And the sizes have been pretty convincing.

Smallest to biggest.

Mobula
Junker
Pyra
Squid
-Fall into the Same over all size.

While

Goldfish is almost the size of galleon, just galleon has a bit bigger hull and 2 extra baloons to top The goldfish.

while the galleon may look big, i knew it that the spire was bigger.

All three of Galleons baloon almost fit into spires baloon.
The hull albeit is bit wider than a spire (sideview) isnt as connected to the baloon as the spire is.
Topp it off with bigger bits of metal floating around the spires baloon like the front ram.

This is all based on ship selection screen view screenshots and photomanipulating to compare.
But dang it i know the spire is a big target! >:(

Addition: The pyra is as big as the spires baloon with the ram and a bit of its front hull sticking out.
Clarification: I was pretty convinced because i also compared the interior size of how the crew would fit in comparison to other ships. They all seemed to have the same space, meaning the inside of a galleon is a great big illusion because of its open design :P
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Dementio on December 18, 2014, 04:01:22 am
The ship selection, does it not automatically zoom in on ships so they all look relatevily the same size?
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Crafeksterty on December 18, 2014, 07:59:11 am
Mhh? No. The pyra was clearly smaller yett the interior made sense to the spires interior. As in the helm size and path ways for crew were the believable or convincing sizes.
A good way to place the ship awhole is just zoom all the way out. Its the same ammount of zoom for all ships.

And the only ship that barely places itself awhole in the screen is the spire, however that is also due to it just being vertical.

But i still dont have fo'sure confirmation of this. Just eyeballing here.
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Indreams on January 06, 2015, 10:03:52 am
Well, I don't think I can graphically display the size of the ships with my skills.

But once I unlock the page on the Harpoon, I'll make a graph of all the guns.

I just need to find a captain who carries a harpoon... Or be the crazy mobula or spire captain with harpoons.
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: ShadedExalt on January 06, 2015, 10:17:50 am
Well, I don't think I can graphically display the size of the ships with my skills.

But once I unlock the page on the Harpoon, I'll make a graph of all the guns.

I just need to find a captain who carries a harpoon... Or be the crazy mobula or spire captain with harpoons.

Run a Gally with the CQC side on port, and take a Harpoon.  You can drag 'em in for a Hwacha barrage, and close enough that their balloon's gonna be popped, too.  And once it's down, the armor is gonna take a helluva beating.  So you've:

Disabled
Blended Balloon and armor
And are setting up for a permahull Hwacha barrage.

This is better than the average Gally, at least in small maps,  Where you really shouldn't be bringing one anyway as broadsiders aren't famed for dictating range.

That is, when it decides to not be totally broken.
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Indreams on January 06, 2015, 10:38:59 am
I managed to unlock lumberjack by landing 50+ shots in a match. I hope I can unlock harpoon in a similar fashion.

Because, so far, I've landed one harpoon shot.
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Crafeksterty on January 06, 2015, 11:29:32 am
Place lesmok, its still hard somewhat but better than nothing.
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Dementio on January 06, 2015, 11:42:44 am
The harpoon one is the hardest to get, because nobody uses it. No wonder people think it hard to aim with, nobody really aimed with it.

Harpoon on the backside of a Galleon works rather well, everybody is trying to fly into your back. Even the pilot can shoot it from there.
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: ShadedExalt on January 06, 2015, 02:00:31 pm
The harpoon one is the hardest to get, because nobody uses it. No wonder people think it hard to aim with, nobody really aimed with it.

Harpoon on the backside of a Galleon works rather well, everybody is trying to fly into your back. Even the pilot can shoot it from there.

If you aft Harpoon, bring Moonshine.

*SMOOSH*
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Indreams on January 06, 2015, 03:07:46 pm
Did I tell you guys I have a nightmares about galleon-moonshine-aft rams?

Well, that's how I got owned on my first non-novice match, second non-novice match, and fourth non-novice match. (third match, Galleon was on our side)
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Schwalbe on January 06, 2015, 06:03:32 pm
Good shit mate.
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Indreams on January 14, 2015, 11:09:39 am
Maybe I'm not trying, but the harpoon page is not happening.

Can anybody take a screenshot of the harpoon page and post it? That'd be helpful.
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Ightrril on January 14, 2015, 01:12:43 pm
Maybe I'm not trying, but the harpoon page is not happening.

Can anybody take a screenshot of the harpoon page and post it? That'd be helpful.

If you want to unlock it yourself then I suggest having one on the side of a close-range Galleon, lots of fun and plenty of opportunity to use it. Plenty of people say it's a good idea to put them on the rear as well of course, personally I prefer a mine there.

Here's the page anyway.

(http://i.imgur.com/5Y5vlKA.jpg)
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Indreams on January 14, 2015, 03:53:41 pm
Thx, I'll get on making a graph.

And It'll be a better. I've learned a few new tricks.

And hopefully my presentation can be better. Instead of two separate attachments, I'll try to embed the graphs in the forum or something.
Title: Re: Guns of Icarus Ships Graph
Post by: Indreams on March 09, 2015, 02:28:42 pm
I've decided to scrap the guns graph.

1.) Turns out making graphics for guns is a lot of time-consuming work to make useful. I've made few graphs that provides no useful informations (because I can't quite figure out a way to present ammo types and modifiers).

2.) 1.4.0 added the minotaur gun. After attempting to figure it out, I've realized I don't actually know how most guns work. Buckshots and shell drops and reload times...

3.) Llamatron 2.0 (http://ducksoficarus.servegame.com) is a far, far better tool for numbers nerds. It's also a better presentation than what I hoped to accomplish with graphs.


So yea. I'll be doing other things with GOIO numbers, but don't expect much.