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Title: Drift mines
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on September 27, 2015, 01:07:08 pm
Just like how ship that were previously moving forward still move forward after their engine break.

What if mines drift in the direction they are fired and slowly lose velocity just like ships. The faster the mine was launched (lesmok) the farther it will drift in the direction it was shot.
Title: Re: Drift mines
Post by: The Mann on September 27, 2015, 02:35:03 pm
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/AB29dGYfE9xO8/200.gif)
Title: Re: Drift mines
Post by: Richard LeMoon on September 27, 2015, 03:45:48 pm
And effected by wind.
Title: Re: Drift mines
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on September 27, 2015, 06:34:46 pm
And effected by wind.

has that actually been implemented yet?

I can't tell for certain if wind actually exists.

That being said shooting mines past the map border to be flinged back in the map by the winds might be hilarious.
Title: Re: Drift mines
Post by: BlackenedPies on September 27, 2015, 06:54:15 pm
Wind exists. Try a mobula on desert scrap.
Title: Re: Drift mines
Post by: Dutch Vanya on September 27, 2015, 07:12:40 pm
And effected by wind.
I can't tell for certain if wind actually exists.
And yet you pretend to be an expert on this game.
Title: Re: Drift mines
Post by: Hunter. on September 27, 2015, 07:35:53 pm
And effected by wind.
I can't tell for certain if wind actually exists.
And yet you pretend to be an expert on this game.
PRETEND? How dare you imply our lord and saviour Maximillian Jazzhand is anything but a fountain of knowledge for the guns of icarus community to enjoy. If he has taken the TIME and EFFORT to impart his wisdom onto you, in an aggressive manner or not, you should be grateful and accept it, based on the fact that compared to the might of Jazzhands, you are nothing. Pleb.
Title: Re: Drift mines
Post by: Carn on September 27, 2015, 08:15:48 pm
And effected by wind.
I can't tell for certain if wind actually exists.
And yet you pretend to be an expert on this game.
PRETEND? How dare you imply our lord and saviour Maximillian Jazzhand is anything but a fountain of knowledge for the guns of icarus community to enjoy. If he has taken the TIME and EFFORT to impart his wisdom onto you, in an aggressive manner or not, you should be grateful and accept it, based on the fact that compared to the might of Jazzhands, you are nothing. Pleb.
I've shot him down at least three times.
Title: Re: Drift mines
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on September 27, 2015, 08:16:49 pm
Wind exists. Try a mobula on desert scrap.

I did mention that at some point but you guys just called me crazy that the mobula is strafing and losing arc on enemy ships.

That being said. ONLY on a mobula?

I mean I do see cloud movement on maps which lore wise does imply wind. But its never actually affected arcs or flight pattern.

Hence why would it affect a mine? Even a practice dummy doesn't drift unless you nudge it. Its not like people are spamming muse for a weather vane.

@carn? you mean that time I beat your clan and serene grace with 2 scrubs that did nothing but act as target practice?

When I got the final kill on your junker who just watched as I rescued a teammate from serene grace only for me to just turn around and kill you too because somehow you liked hugging that mountain a bit too much.

2-7 son. and that was against the odds on my end. beating me on a pub match with your clan with you and me with randoms isn't something to gloat about.

You can beat literally anyone like that. Even Lueosi.
Title: Re: Drift mines
Post by: BlackenedPies on September 27, 2015, 08:24:40 pm
It affects all ships but is particularly noticeable on mobula and especially on scrap and duel. I don't think there is wind in practice or that clouds are affected by wind (they're independent). Mines are programmed differently and are not affected by physics.

Changing mines to be affected by physics (wind, minotaur, momentum) would require remaking mines.
Title: Re: Drift mines
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on September 27, 2015, 08:31:58 pm
It affects all ships but is particularly noticeable on mobula and especially on scrap and duel. I don't think there is wind in practice or that clouds are affected by wind (they're independent). Mines are programmed differently and are not affected by physics.

Changing mines to be affected by physics (wind, minotaur, momentum) would require remaking mines.

There are people in the community who would love to use minos to push mines. And frankly. I think its a worthwhile endeavour to remake the mines.
Title: Re: Drift mines
Post by: Hoja Lateralus on September 29, 2015, 06:43:30 am
And effected by wind.
I can't tell for certain if wind actually exists.
And yet you pretend to be an expert on this game.
PRETEND? How dare you imply our lord and saviour Maximillian Jazzhand is anything but a fountain of knowledge for the guns of icarus community to enjoy. If he has taken the TIME and EFFORT to impart his wisdom onto you, in an aggressive manner or not, you should be grateful and accept it, based on the fact that compared to the might of Jazzhands, you are nothing. Pleb.

>>this guy
>>CA
>>mfw
(https://embed.gyazo.com/aeaedb7f74a76b81a260f6bb6cf3b68b.png)

I mean, I get why people don't like Ceresbane, but attacks on him in this thread are really uncalled for. Especially from a Community Ambassador. Person who is supposed to be helping the community (and being a kind of role model) just start attacking someone without really valid reason whatsoever. Disgraceful. I mean, is it too much to ask you to act like fucking adults?
Also - guys, why are you provoking him? Seriously...

Regarding the thread I will repeat my well-known formula:
It would be cool, sure, but it's not ESSENTIAL so it's probably not going to happen. I've seen more needed (in my opinion) and less demanding tasks being shot down.
Title: Re: Drift mines
Post by: Schwalbe on September 29, 2015, 06:51:37 am
It affects all ships but is particularly noticeable on mobula and especially on scrap and duel. I don't think there is wind in practice or that clouds are affected by wind (they're independent). Mines are programmed differently and are not affected by physics.

Changing mines to be affected by physics (wind, minotaur, momentum) would require remaking mines.

There are people in the community who would love to use minos to push mines. And frankly. I think its a worthwhile endeavour to remake the mines.

That would make minofish useful (minotaur front, mines sides)

Oh, wait, actually I have a good reaction video for this idea, regarding Muse: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpqiq-FHDV4)


My observation about wind:
- It exists - of a sort - on some of the maps. If you'll stop your ship completely, it's gonna drift at some direction.
- BUT it doesn't affect the projectiles anyhow.


About attack on Ceresbane:

And you guys call me an asshole?
Title: Re: Drift mines
Post by: Hunter. on September 29, 2015, 07:48:21 am
And effected by wind.
I can't tell for certain if wind actually exists.
And yet you pretend to be an expert on this game.
PRETEND? How dare you imply our lord and saviour Maximillian Jazzhand is anything but a fountain of knowledge for the guns of icarus community to enjoy. If he has taken the TIME and EFFORT to impart his wisdom onto you, in an aggressive manner or not, you should be grateful and accept it, based on the fact that compared to the might of Jazzhands, you are nothing. Pleb.

>>this guy
>>CA
>>mfw
(https://embed.gyazo.com/aeaedb7f74a76b81a260f6bb6cf3b68b.png)

I mean, I get why people don't like Ceresbane, but attacks on him in this thread are really uncalled for. Especially from a Community Ambassador. Person who is supposed to be helping the community (and being a kind of role model) just start attacking someone without really valid reason whatsoever. Disgraceful. I mean, is it too much to ask you to act like fucking adults?
Also - guys, why are you provoking him? Seriously...

Regarding the thread I will repeat my well-known formula:
It would be cool, sure, but it's not ESSENTIAL so it's probably not going to happen. I've seen more needed (in my opinion) and less demanding tasks being shot down.


I think calling that an "Attack" is bit of a jump? If I was attacking him I would be pouncing on his every word and trying to be offensive - I was only playing around. If he finds it offensive he can say and I will take it down. Please stop trying to make a mountain out of a molehill - nobody was attacking him here as far as I am concerned and if he feels offended I know he is vocal enough he would make a point to say it. I wouldn't do that kind of joke on a less vocal/confident community member. But this is off topic and if anyone would like to discuss this matter in an adult manner I would rather it take place in private and in full sentences as opposed to using meme arrows and reaction images.
Title: Re: Drift mines
Post by: Schwalbe on September 29, 2015, 07:55:37 am
It's not like you jump out on Ceresbane

FOR NO

PARTICULAR

FUCKING

REASON.

At least in this thread.

The fact how Ceresbane behaves everywhere else DOES NOT justify clinging to any statement and ranting about how much of an asshole he is; for fuck's sake - save yourself at least a little class, AND WAIT for him to drop some arrogant bullshit IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GO ON LIKE THAT.

Stop justifying yerself - READ WITH COMPREHENSION.

Dutch Vanya provokes the shitstorm, and you are a CA - calm the fucking situation down before inflating it...
Title: Re: Drift mines
Post by: Hunter. on September 29, 2015, 08:04:18 am
Jeez, chill - as I said, if he has a problem with it he will come to me about it. I am sure he doesn't need 2 bodyguards to stand up for him when someone pokes some fun in his direction. There is no need for either of you to get so offended on his behalf. If he has a problem with what I have said consider these messages an open invite to PM me and I will delete the post promptly - until he signifies he has a problem with it he does not need anyone to make a fuss on his behalf. If I made a post calling him all sorts of names, he requested it get deleted, and I ignored his request, that would be a different matter entirely. As I also said above; This conversation between us is off topic and derailing the discussion and if you wish to discuss this further you may also PM me.

EDIT: I also do not see how blowing my statement away as being sarcastic is "clinging" to my statement, it is in fact the opposite. Additionally I don't see how I "inflated" the situation - there was no situation until Mr. Disaster decided on Maximillian's behalf that what I said should be deemed as offensive.
Title: Re: Drift mines
Post by: Schwalbe on September 29, 2015, 08:08:33 am
I don't stand for Ceresbane (SAY WHAT MATE), I stand for some rules and common sense.

Also, cough cough. Who started derailing the topic?

Dutch Vanya.
And consequently - you.
Title: Re: Drift mines
Post by: Hunter. on September 29, 2015, 08:11:04 am
I refuse to publicly talk to you about this here, if you want to discuss these matters with me send me a PM. All we are doing here is spamming.
Title: Re: Drift mines
Post by: Arturo Sanchez on September 29, 2015, 08:19:42 am


Regarding the thread I will repeat my well-known formula:
It would be cool, sure, but it's not ESSENTIAL so it's probably not going to happen. I've seen more needed (in my opinion) and less demanding tasks being shot down.

errrr I had an email recently that said they do plan to work on it. or something of that vein.

as for the attacks on me I generally just shrug it off unless its actually something impressive or clever. That being said I am rather surprised a CA of all people trips on his balls and splooshes his salt all over the thread for no reason. But meh, so long as its a jab and carry on as opposed to a thread derailer (I mean ffs have some class while being a douche) I say its all good as a general precedent.

If it were my community to control I would condone that casual friendly roasting (its a british/and apparently australian thing).
Title: Re: Drift mines
Post by: Hunter. on September 29, 2015, 08:34:37 am
If it were my community to control I would condone that casual friendly roasting (its a british/and apparently australian thing).

Based Maximillian, supporting the British banter. Just want to clarify there is no salt, as far as I'm concerned your reputation is nothing more than a forum meme; Seeing as I've never experienced the negative side of you first hand. I don't really want to derail the thread any more than I have but I do want to clarify that there is no salt and I was just trying to lighten the mood!
Title: Re: Drift mines
Post by: Keyvias on September 29, 2015, 01:34:46 pm
Hey Guys,

Hopping in here. Just wanted people to showed me this thread to know that it's been spotted and looked at.
We've Pm'ed the affected parties involved and we want to make sure everyone does their best to talk respectfully to each other.

I know that it has broken down here and for that I apologize personally, but I think if we step back and move past this moment, we can talk about what's important, Drift mines!
This is definitely an idea we got sent in and has some very interesting complexities to it such as minotaur and how much win would affect balance, if wind is blowing towards blue spawn and you throw 25 mines down that way, etc.

There's also a lot of engineering work that would go into this so it's definitely not just an on/off switch for affected by wind and definitely is something we're checking out.

So definitely use this thread as a place to discuss the mines, if there's any other issues though feel free to PM the people you have the issue with or if you feel like that isn't solving it. Please send me a message either here or at keyvias@musegames.com

Thanks guys!