Guns Of Icarus Online
Main => World => Topic started by: Gato Blanco on May 18, 2013, 04:16:07 am
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I'm probably going to get banned for this...
So, why did Gabriel choose to make airships? Going by developments since WWII, we’ve got bombers, VTOL jets, GOI has planes after all. Even aircraft carriers. With treads. Why not tanks? It could have been “Guns of Leonidas.” I know, I know, the he dug through Patrius for 20 years, learning and scavenging things to make the Icarus, but where did the ancients get their inspiration?
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c56/rusad/skywhales_zpsc84df2d9.png)
Many inventions have been inspired by nature. Stinging creatures gave people the inspiration for hypodermic needles. Birds’ wings are the basis of every airplane’s lift. Who’s to say that the ancients didn’t look to the Skywhales and think “Damn, I’d like to try that.”
In all seriousness, this thread is dedicated to the speculation of Skywhales, and their impact on world. How do they fly? What did they use for lift? For thrust? What do they eat? What caused them to evolve (Potentially) lighter than air flight? Are there multiple species? What is their niche? Are they extinct?
PS; don’t think we didn’t see that whale in your videos, devs.
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I'm going to go ahead and use Scott Westerfeld's Leviathan series as a base here and say that they naturally produce Hydrogen to fly. Everything else is beyond me.
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TIM, GET IN HERE!
generations of bloated sea-whales with digestion problems evolved to rise through the water faster and eventually took their bulk to the skies?
also, isn't there that post in the gallery with sky shrimp and sky plankton?
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I remember when I was a lurker on the old forums about sky whales.
http://gunsoficarus.com/community/forumarchive/discussion/772/sea-monsters
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Perhaps the skywhale is not an animal that was originally so huge even a powder-monkey could hit it, but a small fish that evolved huge airbags? after the wrecking that made the Wastes the to-be skywhales noticed that "hey, air is nice" and conquered new ground because there were no seas left for them. The ones that could fly higher got bragging- and mating rights, which in turn made bigger skywhales.
On the question what they eat I think they absorb moisture from the clouds, random birds and occasionally land on unsuspecting people and animals from the sky. Because they are mostly air and lighter gases they do not need that much for nutrition. But, the skywhale skin was the best for boots, air-balloons and other need-to-be-reliable surfaces. Plus, it has the underlayer that is tastier than revenge.
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I feel like skywhales deflate naturally and need to rest in the ocean every winter where they use electrolysis to reinflate. They loose the ability to fly and are killed by poachers and sharks alike.
(Also, is it bad that I have a strong suspicion what they use as ballast?)
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no no no no no. you are all wrong, the skywhale's heart is actually a nuclear fusion reaction that produces helium. which is why they dont explode when you shoot them. the reaction is fueled by the populace's belief in skywhales. there are so few now because, by and large, have stopped believing in them. Only a true believer in the majestic skywhale will ever see a skywhale, the creature will be drawn to the psychic believe energies emitted by the true believer. The closer the skywhale gets the stronger the psycho-magnetic resonance, leading to increased fusion activity and helium production. This increased helium production leads to the high altitude climb behavior described in almost every skywhale sighting.
come on guys. do your research :P
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So, to revive skywhales, we need to clap our hands?
EDIT: OH GOD, CLOUD KRAKEN
EDIT 2: Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
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Well, two things.
You all found the original post, that fateful day when cloud whales turned into sky whales. It started as a suggestion in the launch video, good times. Paper plates with "press x for skywhales" got pressed in front of the camera. I'm sure alcohol was very much involved with its original rise.
Second, I don't have a second, I just wanted to seem like I had more stuff to say. Cause, like, sky whales, and stuff.
I still like my first idea, giant creatures ships fight to bring down by harpooning the creature to keep it from escaping the map. It bucks, moves, turns and throws the ships around to try and smack them into each other or the terrain. Gunners would have to know when to cut the line or get "dragged under" by the whale. It could be a pretty neat coordination of ship captains, gunners and engineers.
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Game mode: sky whaling. PVE coordinated effort, using harpoons to grab as well as other weapons to weaken the whale (be careful not to kill it!)
Also, could make a "Capture the Whale" format, where you have whalers and a militant Greenpeace. The whales wouldn't buck like in Skywhaling, but would slow down ships. Whalers have to pull the whale to a whale processing ship, defenders have to kill whalers and let the whale fly back to its school. Whale would be invulnerable because if the whale would die, both teams loose, and that could lead to trolling as a loosing team would just kill the whale to force a draw.
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I remember when I was a lurker on the old forums about sky whales.
http://gunsoficarus.com/community/forumarchive/discussion/772/sea-monsters
I wonder if you could tell that I almost went bat-shit crazy at the time that thread came up. Right before this we had a whole lotta threads suggesting stuff like dreadnoughts, bi-planes and carriers for the frigging sixtyeleventh time, massive mechanical cities on tracks, boarding and handheld weapons (for the thousandth time) and other wierd ass suggestion.
..then some random pubber posted this and I was like... I give up... -.- ...screw reality
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Just a little :P Was it also the same time when all the reality in the original word stories just went and gone out of the window?
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Speaking of which why haven't zeppelin carriers come up recently? Certainly there is a component of our community who whats to take off in their own private airplane, do strafing runs on an enemy zeppelin, eventually crash into it, then jump out and start dukeing it out with the other crew mano e mano.
I am joking of course.
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:P
Was it also the same time when all the reality in the original word stories just went and gone out of the window?
Nah, by then that shit was all buttered up, out the window and up in the clouds, circling gods head with an RPG, long ago
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I finally tipped Sgt. Spoon into crazy, me, I did it. I feel a little more complete this day.
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what if the whales have wings?
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My god, he's right.
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Would sky sailors eat seagulls? Swing the harpoon around for a little snack?
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Would sky sailors eat seagulls? Swing the harpoon around for a little snack?
Don't you mean Skygulls?
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As long as it's not an albatross.
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Would sky sailors eat seagulls? Swing the harpoon around for a little snack?
Don't you mean Skygulls?
I don't know weather to shake your hand or stab you in the face. Heck, I've got 2 hands.
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Would sky sailors eat seagulls? Swing the harpoon around for a little snack?
Don't you mean Skygulls?
I don't know weather to shake your hand or stab you in the face. Heck, I've got 2 hands.
Everything's sky in the world icarus :D
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Not the carronade. Never the carronade.
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Carronade, the anti sky.
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I bet ya'll have seen this already but anyways:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/579466_375464019220800_654578781_n.png)
from the FB page
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So it's a hot air balloon? That means if we flamethrower one it would shoot up into the air uncontrollably, then pop. I'm a terrible person.
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Those mechanics would mean the whale is basically made out of cloth.
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We can't just say magic to make everything work I guess, but what about mutant?
We could also use this as a lore perspective, what the people believe the whale is doing when they look at it, but this isnt what is actually going on.
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We can't just say magic to make everything work I guess, but what about mutant?
We could also use this as a lore perspective, what the people believe the whale is doing when they look at it, but this isnt what is actually going on.
So, they use magic monkies to fly too?
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We can't just say magic to make everything work I guess, but what about mutant?
We could also use this as a lore perspective, what the people believe the whale is doing when they look at it, but this isnt what is actually going on.
So, they use magic monkies to fly too?
watch out for those magic flying moonshine thieves.
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How I see it is that skywhales eat loads of coal and then proceed to dip their belly in lava.
This causes the coal inside to warm up and lift the ballon that is their stomach.
Do skywhales even have bellies?
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Maybe skywhales are whales that were exposed to the sort of gas that made dreadnoughts fly, and, over time, evolved to hold it. With that in mind, I say the wreck on scrap is a dead skywhale with some propellers next to it.
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Dreadnoughts flew? I thought they were just stranded big warships and the dunes are the bottom of the sea.
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Not the big destroyer. You know on duel at dawn, that huge wrecked airship, which is also on scrap, that's the potential skywhale with propellers next to it.
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Come on people, this is all getting over-complicated. Now, for skywhales to have evolved naturally there would have to have been sky-beasties for millions of years, and most people seem to be saying that they have come about after the great war... So, I think it's far more likely that the Republic got bored someday and attached a balloon and engines to a whale for a laugh, it's easier than building a whole ship, plus in desperate times you have a reliable food source. (Plus who's going to shoot it? It's a freaking whale, everyone will be to busy gaping)
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Although Muse denies my crackpot theories, I still believe GOI takes place on a planet that is not Earth. A planet where the gravity is less, and the air is more dense. Thus the air airships of GOI world don't need as much lift gas per pound as Earth based airships do. If the planet we play on is not earth that also explains the remarkably skinny looking humanoid species we find there (that all have the same face). It also leaves open the possibility of whales that evolved for the sky.
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In fantasy we can just say "Magic" as a reason. What says in Diesel punk we can't just say "alchemy"?
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In fantasy we can just say "Magic" as a reason. What says in Diesel punk we can't just say "alchemy"?
Better yet: Science!
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In fantasy we can just say "Magic" as a reason. What says in Diesel punk we can't just say "alchemy"?
Better yet: Science!
Okay, look: We both said a lot of things that you're going to regret, but I think we can put our differences behind us; for science... you monster.
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In fantasy we can just say "Magic" as a reason. What says in Diesel punk we can't just say "alchemy"?
Better yet: Science!
Okay, look: We both said a lot of things that you're going to regret, but I think we can put our differences behind us; for science... you monster.
Darn you I was going to post the thing about science not being about why, it's about why not.
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In fantasy we can just say "Magic" as a reason. What says in Diesel punk we can't just say "alchemy"?
Better yet: Science!
Okay, look: We both said a lot of things that you're going to regret, but I think we can put our differences behind us; for science... you monster.
Darn you I was going to post the thing about science not being about why, it's about why not.
Okay then I now proclaim that sky whales fly with combustible lemons.
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Ok guys, I like Portal 2 as much as the next guy (I put 185 hours into it...), but we should keep this on topic.
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I don't know if this thread was a joke r what, but I seriously think the developers should add skywhales. It would be amazingly fun if done right.
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I'm glad you said that, I want to welcome you to the church of the Holy Sky Whale, welcome brother, welcome to our illustrious order.
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LDT why do you seduce people to your evil ways? Is not your own demise enough? Shun your evil ways and embrace the Bacon. It's the only way :)) (apologies for derailing... had to)
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So, to sum it up, there's two churches in GOI, and Tim and Shink lead them. Everything is shink's fault, including the extinction of skywhales and my bacon not being ready on time, while skywhales are still a holy sight.
TL:DR YEAAAHHH BACON SKYWHALES!
Or skywhale bacon. hmm.
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Fermented Skywhale blubber (really? "Späck" is called "blubber" in english?) is the national cuisine of Anglea
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So, to sum it up, there's two churches in GOI, and Tim and Shink lead them. Everything is shink's fault, including the extinction of skywhales and my bacon not being ready on time, while skywhales are still a holy sight.
TL:DR YEAAAHHH BACON SKYWHALES!
Or skywhale bacon. hmm.
I lead the Church of Bacon. Shink's just one our most vocal members.
Anyways... Let's not keep this tangent going.
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So, to sum it up, there's two churches in GOI, and Tim and Shink lead them. Everything is shink's fault, including the extinction of skywhales and my bacon not being ready on time, while skywhales are still a holy sight.
TL:DR YEAAAHHH BACON SKYWHALES!
Or skywhale bacon. hmm.
I lead the Church of Bacon. Shink's just one our most vocal members.
Anyways... Let's not keep this tangent going.
Oh you do now? There may be some conflicts on our ship soon. See if I ever buff your merc again. *storms out*
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I vote to replace Sunderland as Council member of the church of the holy Bacon... Naturally I will be his successor
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I vote to replace Sunderland as Council member of the church of the holy Bacon... Naturally I will be his successor
...naturally. <.<
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Although Muse denies my crackpot theories, I still believe GOI takes place on a planet that is not Earth. A planet where the gravity is less, and the air is more dense. Thus the air airships of GOI world don't need as much lift gas per pound as Earth based airships do. If the planet we play on is not earth that also explains the remarkably skinny looking humanoid species we find there (that all have the same face). It also leaves open the possibility of whales that evolved for the sky.
Needs more necro. How about postapocalyptic earth, nukes blew big chunks of the planet into dust, resulting in lower gravity and higher atmosphere density while still on earth? Also that skywhale picture. It wants a low density gas in it's stomach, wouldn't overpressurized hot gas be contra-productive? Isn't that also how you produce plasma?
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Gravity is mostly generated by a planets core, plus the planets crust is like the skin of a grape, relatively thin to the rest of planet. I'm all for the Alt-Earth idea however, it seems logical (If a bit more fantasy, then again Sky Whales)
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Like really, really, really big chunks.
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Guys, it's really obvious that the highly irradiated scorched earth affected the genetic structure of whales living in the oceans.
These whales serendipitously grew specialized organs capable of generating dark matter through highly complicated protein manipulation of atoms on a molecular level. The whales gained the ability to not only control their buoyancy in water by generating this anti gravity matter within their bodies but also the ability to migrate towards food sources across the planet by floating on air currents. By using far fewer resources when traveling, they gained a competitive advantage over whales not able to float thereby enabling them to breed at higher rates.
Skywhales still mostly traveled over water and were rarely seen near land. Though many fishermen and people dwelling near the shores swore to have seen them, they were more or less viewed as a fairy tale creatures and imaginings of old salty sailors. This of course was mostly due to the remaining governments during the age of dust conspiring to cover up the existence of the skywhales.
Understanding the incredible strategic advantage of having a technology capable of making something as heavy as a whale float, the majority of whales that wandered close to shore were immediately harpooned down and scurried underground for secret government experiments. Eventually this lead scientists towards a rather simple method of production which though initially closely guarded, leaked out to the public when one of the governments failed.
Access to this ability to create dark matter is widely available now to any group capable of creating even a modest biochemical production facility; unfortunately the mass government hunting of skywhales made the species extinct.
Still though every now and then in a tavern, far away from civilization; you hear tales being spun by sky captains, probably gone crazy from the decades of moonshine, swearing to have seen one.
Most of them are known liars but every once and a while, a dull glow returns into the old war torn and weary eyes of a skyman as he tells his humble tale of majestic sea creatures emerging from the waves, water cascading off their hulking frames, jettisoning halos of vapor as they lift towards the heavens. Tales that make even the biggest skeptics pause and wonder, what if.
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Wow, you realise the messed up evolution for the whales now?
Seacreatures --> landcreatures --> semi-aquatic creatures --> seacreatures --> aircreatures
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Evolution has done crazier things.
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Like say... the new breed of elfs that seemingly inhabit the Age of Air
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Wow, you realise the messed up evolution for the whales now?
Seacreatures --> landcreatures --> semi-aquatic creatures --> seacreatures --> aircreatures
My good sir,
I believe that whales, ironically, were originally land creatures.
<3
>^.^<
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Skywhales however evolve quickly, they are now the rare sight within deep deserts, the Sand Whales, may the whales flow.
(Just had to)
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Evolution has done crazier things.
Whale is evolving!
*B B B B B B B BBBB bbbB BBB B B B B B B*
*Lord Dick Tim's Dreams have been crushed*
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Wow, you realise the messed up evolution for the whales now?
Seacreatures --> landcreatures --> semi-aquatic creatures --> seacreatures --> aircreatures
My good sir,
I believe that whales, ironically, were originally land creatures.
<3
>^.^<
Yes but prior to that, like all other land creatures ^^
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You can't really know if evolution started in a pool of water on land or in that big pond that is the sea. If you say you do, you're lying. (I'm not sure if it's even proven to have started in water)
Talking about the abiogenesis btw
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You're all wrong, life originated from space when a meteor hit mars and flung some really durable single celled organisms into our planet. Hence Skywhales are just 1 step away from finishing the return to their origins.
Next evolutionary step... space whales!
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You're all wrong, life originated from space when a meteor hit mars and flung some really durable single celled organisms into our planet.
[...]
(I'm not sure if it's even proven to have started in water)
Hey I included that possibility D:
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hah yeah, I suppose you're right there. I can't be too quick to present one theory as the absolute truth.
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While the very origin of all life on earth is not conclusively discovered, it would be simpler, when talking about "life", to restrict the term to multi-celled organisms, which definitely originated in the ocean.
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Clearly Sky Whales have been intelligently designed by one or more omnipotent being(s) that the world of Icarus is still in conflict about.
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While the very origin of all life on earth is not conclusively discovered, it would be simpler, when talking about "life", to restrict the term to multi-celled organisms, which definitely originated in the ocean.
To which I do reply, are we suggesting Airships are multi-cellular organisms?
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Well, you could call every gun, engine, bloon, hull and helm a cell in a snese, which would make the crew its lifeblood and the ship a multi-cellular organism.
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While the very origin of all life on earth is not conclusively discovered, it would be simpler, when talking about "life", to restrict the term to multi-celled organisms, which definitely originated in the ocean.
To which I do reply, are we suggesting Airships are multi-cellular organisms?
Multiple gas-cells, I'd hope, or you'd never repair that balloon after a single carronade volley.
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While the very origin of all life on earth is not conclusively discovered, it would be simpler, when talking about "life", to restrict the term to multi-celled organisms, which definitely originated in the ocean.
To which I do reply, are we suggesting Airships are multi-cellular organisms?
Autonomous mechanical airships... O.O
*looks at AI-crewed Pyramidions*
oh...right. *amazement gone*
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You're all wrong, life originated from space when a meteor hit mars and flung some really durable single celled organisms into our planet. Hence Skywhales are just 1 step away from finishing the return to their origins.
Next evolutionary step... space whales!
yeah let's build london city on their back
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Guys. Wailord. The Pokémon. It has been calculated to be less dense than air. Skywhales, like dragons and unicorns, have appeared in multiple completely different cultures. They exist, or at least used to some long time ago.