Guns Of Icarus Online
Main => World => Topic started by: Kriegson on November 04, 2013, 10:34:46 am
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I could have swore each airship was related to an existing faction, but can't find it =/
IIRC:
Galleon- Merchants
Squid- Arashi
Mobula- The order
Goldfish- Yesha
Junker- Anglea
SPire- Baronies?
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pretty sure Galleon is Yeshan.... just something makes me think it's Yeshan.
EDIT: Got it!
"A sturdily-built warship with an imposing vertical silhouette, the Galleon was introduced by Yesha shipbuilders as a sentinel to patrol the borders of the Empire and keep the peace. The design is now widely copied, and Galleons form the backbone of many a defensive fleet.
Although it is not as fast or nimble as some ships, the Galleon boasts a respectable complement of medium-sized weapons to assert its authority and makes a formidable opponent in battle.
And the squid:
A catamaran originally of Chaladonian design, the Squid cuts a distinctive figure with its split deck and multiple hulls.
Pyramidion:
The Pyramidion is a modified version of a Yesha warship used in the vanguard of an offensive fleet formation, often backed by a line of smaller striker craft.
All I could find for now.
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The Mobula was created in the Vastness, the region the Mercantile Guild mainly inhabits.
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So 2 confirmed yeshan and a chaladonian. Hrm....so at the very least we know it's not as though each ship represents one of the empires. We may not have even seen representative ships of some factions.
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Im thrilled to see how many ships will be playable for each faction.
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Im thrilled to see how many ships will be playable for each faction.
The way you say that seems to indicate there's some number out there of how many each faction will have? Or are you saying you would be thrilled to see them?
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I wanted to express my emotional state of happiness and nervous waiting about the fact of how many (if more than one) ships each faction will give the players to play and how they will behave and fit in the environment.
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Didn't Muse state that the balance of the Adventure mode would be kept separate from the balance of Skirmish mode? This could mean that Adventure mode ships could be variations of Skirmish mode ships that would be OP in skirmish mode. For example there could be more light gun mounts and less blind spots. I am personally hoping that each faction would have a slightly different take on the core ships. Like an Angelean Raider Pyramididon with two front and two rear facing weapons. Because you are either coming for the booty or trying to get away with it, side guns are for chumps.
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I could be way off base here but I remember hearing each faction will have access to the same airships.
They will however look very different faction to faction and the weapons will all have their own flavor depending on which faction your are (pretty sure there will be a flame based faction btw Cakes)
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I could be way off base here but I remember hearing each faction will have access to the same airships.
They will however look very different faction to faction and the weapons will all have their own flavor depending on which faction your are (pretty sure there will be a flame based faction btw Cakes)
Oh I don't doubt they will, but I am curious to see what their various designs are.
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I believe Muse mentioned in their interviews that each faction will have its own distinctive playstyle.
also, I think the Junker would be a ship of the Arashi League. They are independent people with access to a lot of scraps, ideal for building ship like this.
The Goldfish has the same Asian lanterns on board as the Galleon does, but it has a much different style to it therefore I'm not sure whether it truly is a Yeshan vessel.
The Spire I would associate with the Anglean Republic due to its mechanical design (unlike the Goldfish or Galleon which are mainly built from wood). However, It is not the aggressive kind of ship that would fit that faction. Maybe it's rather a ship from the Baronies?
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I believe Muse mentioned in their interviews that each faction will have its own distinctive playstyle.
also, I think the Junker would be a ship of the Arashi League. They are independent people with access to a lot of scraps, ideal for building ship like this.
The Goldfish has the same Asian lanterns on board as the Galleon does, but it has a much different style to it therefore I'm not sure whether it truly is a Yeshan vessel.
The Spire I would associate with the Anglean Republic due to its mechanical design (unlike the Goldfish or Galleon which are mainly built from wood). However, It is not the aggressive kind of ship that would fit that faction. Maybe it's rather a ship from the Baronies?
Spire is from the Baronies, have you not unlocked all of Evadine's Reports yet or something? all this lore is in them if you give it a read... get working on those achieves!
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Talking of Evadne's reports:
Junker: "From an Arashi blueprint for building an airworthy ship with a minimum of materials..."
and GeoRmr is correct in saying that they tell us the Spire is originally from the Baronies.
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Talking of Evadne's reports:
Junker: "From an Arashi blueprint for building an airworthy ship with a minimum of materials..."
and GeoRmr is correct in saying that they tell us the Spire is originally from the Baronies.
What I want to know is why the phobos mine launcher isn't in Wilsons notes! Surely he must have laid a few mines in his time gunning aboard the Icarus. =P
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Believe Goldfish was from Yesha also. The design has a lot of Yeshan ornaments and it is flashy enough where it could be of Yeshan origin. But it is a fast enough ship design where I could see it being used by many mercenaries or pirates.
Mobula, that makes sense that it would be Guild. That is a lot of deck space that goes to waste and in guild lands they would load it up with goods for shipping.
Spire, dunno if that fits the Baronies. If you look at the concept art, Baronies designs are kinda blocky and weird. Spire is also a more of a guard ship if you look at it from a design standpoint. Which suits it for many nations. So it could be an independent design. Spires would most likely have vertical berths which would allow it to rise quickly when needed and just lower right down when the action would be over. Maybe Anvalan design. If Anvala is a massive fortress city then having Spires able to fly in a moment's notice would be advantageous. Also the mounting would mean they wouldn't need to fly to be able to start opening fire.
Junker...if it is Arashi then that could be possible but the Junker to me seems to be a very modular design. Something that could be changed and made to fit many different uses. Also Arashi being at war with the Guild, they'd probably opt for quicker vessels than a Junker.
Anglean vessels in the concept art look similar to Chaladonian. Which makes sense because most of their raiding targets would be across the water. So being able to water land a vessel would be something an Anglean captain would want. But there are no distinct Anglean ships in game. In fact, I don't even think we'll address this much in the VN, outside of Firnfeld. But we'll see.
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I've made almost the same observations when considering the ships and the flavors we have with the factions so far Gilder.
I would also understand if some of the ships had been created in one location, than adapted dramatically to suit a similar but limited required role for another faction. Like the Junker, which you noted as modular, may have it's origins from Yesha but found popularity abroad as a support ship for several factions, each tacking on their own flare and flavors.
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I thought the Angleans took most of their ship designs from the Chaledoneans, I'd imagine that's the reason for the similarities.
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Chaladonians were late to adopt Airship technology, having to replicate it from Baronies ships that docked there, so Anglea would've had airships before Chaladon.
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I've made almost the same observations when considering the ships and the flavors we have with the factions so far Gilder.
I would also understand if some of the ships had been created in one location, than adapted dramatically to suit a similar but limited required role for another faction. Like the Junker, which you noted as modular, may have it's origins from Yesha but found popularity abroad as a support ship for several factions, each tacking on their own flare and flavors.
can't wait for the ship customisation update!
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Chaladonians were late to adopt Airship technology, having to replicate it from Baronies ships that docked there, so Anglea would've had airships before Chaladon.
This may be true, but I'm fairly certain I've heard somewhere that the current ship designs used by Anglea, most notably the squid, came from Chaledon.
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Chaladonians were late to adopt Airship technology, having to replicate it from Baronies ships that docked there, so Anglea would've had airships before Chaladon.
This may be true, but I'm fairly certain I've heard somewhere that the current ship designs used by Anglea, most notably the squid, came from Chaledon.
Yes, you're right, though Chaladon was late to adopt airship technology, they did design the Squid, though I'm not sure how widely used the Squid is in Anglea.
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The Anglean concept art has designs which are very squid like. It wouldn't be odd to me to see that. Imagine them capturing one and then seeing the potential for raiding. But what I do wonder is what their designs were before they incorporated Chaladonian elements. They had to be less optimal.
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I'm gonna necro this topic. It's a good topic anyways.
From last year to this one, I think we've had more info on which ships are related to which faction. And I want to get this right before I make a mistake.
Junker - Arashi
Pyramidion - Yesha
Galleon - Yesha
Squid - Chaladon
Goldfish - Yesha
Spire - Fjord
Mobula - Mercantile
Looks like Angleans don't have a ship design... Anyways, is this about right?
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I always thought the Pyramidion was Angelean despite what the fluff might say. It seems to built around operating in a cold climate and by crew that favor pragmatism over artistry in their approach to war.
The back deck engine section is reasonably well sheltered and probably warm if the engines running.
The hole in the middle of the deck looks like it should be used for ice fishing.
It is one of the smallest balloon to ship mass ratios indicating either advanced technology or that warm air produces more lift in the area it operates.
It has the best configuration for chasing down fleeing enemies or doing a fighting retreat.
It is slow but well armored indicating that it intends to absorb damage rather than dance around it.
It uses only light weapons perhaps because heavy weapons are harder to maintain and more prone to malfunction in the cold.
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I always thought the Pyramidion was Angelean despite what the fluff might say. It seems to built around operating in a cold climate and by crew that favor pragmatism over artistry in their approach to war.
The back deck engine section is reasonably well sheltered and probably warm if the engines running.
The hole in the middle of the deck looks like it should be used for ice fishing.
It is one of the smallest balloon to ship mass ratios indicating either advanced technology or that warm air produces more lift in the area it operates.
It has the best configuration for chasing down fleeing enemies or doing a fighting retreat.
It is slow but well armored indicating that it intends to absorb damage rather than dance around it.
It uses only light weapons perhaps because heavy weapons are harder to maintain and more prone to malfunction in the cold.
these reasons may be why the angeleans favor the design, but it does not mean they invented it.
as angleans raid other territories quite frequently it would make sense that they would get their hands on a few stolen ships. with their lands being rich in techological ruins it would be fairly simple for them to copy the design and make a few modifications to suit their needs.
in a way it makes sense that they do not have a design originating in their culture, it is alot easier to modify a fully functioning airship than design one from the ground up. especially if you take that airship by force.
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I always thought the Pyramidion was Angelean despite what the fluff might say. It seems to built around operating in a cold climate and by crew that favor pragmatism over artistry in their approach to war.
The back deck engine section is reasonably well sheltered and probably warm if the engines running.
The hole in the middle of the deck looks like it should be used for ice fishing.
It is one of the smallest balloon to ship mass ratios indicating either advanced technology or that warm air produces more lift in the area it operates.
It has the best configuration for chasing down fleeing enemies or doing a fighting retreat.
It is slow but well armored indicating that it intends to absorb damage rather than dance around it.
It uses only light weapons perhaps because heavy weapons are harder to maintain and more prone to malfunction in the cold.
these reasons may be why the angeleans favor the design, but it does not mean they invented it.
as angleans raid other territories quite frequently it would make sense that they would get their hands on a few stolen ships. with their lands being rich in techological ruins it would be fairly simple for them to copy the design and make a few modifications to suit their needs.
in a way it makes sense that they do not have a design originating in their culture, it is alot easier to modify a fully functioning airship than design one from the ground up. especially if you take that airship by force.
Or the Angleans are too busy rebuilding one of the leviathans which crash landed, and this shall be their ship, escorted by stolen neighbouring territories ships.
8)
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When people design things they do so for their own needs and with consideration for their technical limitations. The pyramidion has an ice fishing hole. What other faction would want to go Ice fishing?
It also has one of the highest mass to balloon volume ratios in the game. Whoever designed it knew they would have access to technology that would produce more lift per cubic meter of gas than any other ship in the game. Once again pointing to the Angeleans.
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Asked Dev Chat, Pyramidion is a Yeshan ship... sry Hamster.
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What if yesha just expanded to the cold and needed a vanguard against the fierce anglean raiders?
A vanguard and a fishing platform...
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What if yesha just expanded to the cold and needed a vanguard against the fierce anglean raiders?
A vanguard and a fishing platform...
Yeshan invasion of Anglea is now cannon.
Brash, ambitious Yeshan generals would lead a campaign against the northern raiders. They would often return stripped of all their valuables, if they returned at all.
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Adventure mode had BETTER have faction-distinct variations. Chaladon would prbably have everything lighter, faster, squishier. Anglea would pile on speed and armor. Arashi would focus on armor at the cost of health, and slowing speed in return for accel. Merchants would try to have everything kind of all-rounded, Yesha piles on health AND armor at cost of speed, Baronies might have higher accel and health.
Did I get everyone?
Oh, also having a set number of availible guns, but more slots to put them. So like, having a light gun slot on each side of a galleon, a front mount light gun on a gally, having a back mount gun on spire, changing a side gun mount on the Pyra to the other side...