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Remove mandatory tutorials

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Narayan:
Ok Mr. Potty Mouth let’s try to keep it g rated and not bash on handicap people k thx.

What I’m saying is there are enough new players with f2p they can learn by doing in a safer environment than before when we only had 100 players. They don’t need to start out playing at a higher level so we can let people just get into the game and have fun, like the good old days.

Corporal Ravioli:

--- Quote from: Narayan on May 29, 2018, 11:32:09 am ---Ok Mr. Potty Mouth let’s try to keep it g rated and not bash on handicap people k thx.

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/You/ started that to attempt to dilute my point and make me seem like the bad guy. Using something like that as a petty argumentative weapon made me markedly upset.

Piemanlives:

--- Quote from: Narayan on May 29, 2018, 07:43:05 am ---It’s a roadblock in the sense that a lot of people think it’s stupid and bugged, and imo it is a pretty annoying tutorial, I’ve done it many times for my smurf accounts.

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This sounds more like a "I've had to do the tutorial so many times and I don't want to have to do so anymore."

Quite frankly this a reverse of opinion that existed quite some time ago, where Veteran players were complaining that new players didn't know how to play the game and while were willing to teach the willing, they quite frankly didn't want to be forced into the teaching role if they didn't have to.


--- Quote from: Narayan on May 29, 2018, 11:32:09 am ---What I’m saying is there are enough new players with f2p they can learn by doing in a safer environment than before when we only had 100 players. They don’t need to start out playing at a higher level so we can let people just get into the game and have fun, like the good old days.

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Yes but we still need to communicate the gameplay fundamentals to them somehow, and not everyone reads the manual or listens to the people who are trying to teach them. A forced tutorial at the very least ensures that players have some idea of the fundamentals of the game before they play. Sure it's bugged at times but that's more an argument for fixing it rather than taking it away.

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Naoura:
Here's a decent solution to clean up this problem:

Simply rework them. People don't enjoy some of the tutorials, mainly due to them being, well, bad. That isn't grounds for removal at the slightest, nor is it even within reason to remove them. GOIO is a complicated game. A complex game to play well most especially. Easy to play, but hard to master.

Narayan, in response to removing it, I'm pretty sure the whole of the Veteran community would be steadfastly against it. Most of the time, they'll do the engineer tutorial and leave off from that, as far as I've seen the 1/3/1 nublets coming in to try their hand at a class they have no experience in. That doesn't mean you remove them entirely, that means you improve them. Make them more efficiet, and far more effective.

Ravioli, he's been baiting you. It's Narayan. You raised the far better points, but... still. He's trying to kindle up a flamewar because it's what he does.

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