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HamsterIV:
But the downstairs engineer doesn't get to share in the glory, and the pilot doesn't get to hear the sound of two gats shooting at once. Besides good Scylla gunners are few and far between, I will keep my Pyra as idiot proof as possible.

NikolaiLev:

--- Quote from: HamsterIV on May 29, 2013, 04:41:39 pm ---It is worth noting that the Scylla has a smaller lateral field of fire then the Echidna. So while it is possible to get a Gat/Flack/Gat trifecta on a pyramidion, it is impossible to do the same with a mortar. It is mostly for this reason I don't change out my flack to a mortar.

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Actually, I'm fairly certain this is false.  I'll have to confirm this, but I'm pretty sure the Mortar has a superior turning arc than the Flak, while it has an inferior turning rate.

This is somewhat offset by the Mortar's inferior projectile speed, which means you need to lead a target more to hit it, so it needs the extra turning arc.

Captain Smollett:
It does need more turning arc but sadly it has less.

There was a really good thread Hamster had started about increasing the turning arc of the mortar to give the Squid a buff.

I'm not sure of the overall game consequences this would have since it would help out other ships like the Junker as well but it would undoubtedly be an incredible boost to the squid.

Currently the squid can bifecta the mortar and gat but it is pretty difficult and too inconsistent for a competitive match.  Really powerful though when you can nail it and hold in arc.

Charlemagne Montigue:
Yah I think that neither are really superior. Currently I am piloting a Junker. And the two main loadouts so far that I have used are Carronade/Scylla and Gat/Echidna. Each of them are good, Scylla is really good for up close and personal damage. When going against light/med ships this is a great loadout because it's unrelenting and doesn't allow them to escape easily. The Scyllla once you get used to the arc, is a dps machine.

Now when going up against heavy ships or hwacha heavy ships, the gat/echidna loadout is better. When you need to keep a little distance to keep the heavy weapons from ruining your day, the echidna is good for dealing heavy damage while being able to approach from odd angles and distances. The only downside being if you get rammed or hwacha rammed :( you will be wishing you had your Scylla.

N-Sunderland:
My opinion right now is that in the hands of a gunner who can use it, the mortar is definitely superior. It does more damage, and the larger clip size means that less timing is required, allowing the mortar to assist in the armour break.

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