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GUNS Balance Questions and Concerns v1.2
Mattilald Anguisad:
I was about to say you never felt the bite of Zil's Blender-Galleon, but then I remembered that he used it on your team as well ^^
Against some ships heavy carrorade focus works well, just not against a galleon that has both a LJ and a hawacha (I have been on the receiving end of that build amd I just couldn't outrepair double heavy carrorade armor damage, and then when the armor was down, he just finished us with echidna). Heavy carrorade with piercing could very easily be OP.
Squash:
How was he hitting you with a heavy carronade, a hwacha and a lumberjack?
RearAdmiralZill:
--- Quote from: Mattilald Anguisad on May 23, 2013, 12:08:32 pm ---I was about to say you never felt the bite of Zil's Blender-Galleon, but then I remembered that he used it on your team as well ^^
Against some ships heavy carrorade focus works well, just not against a galleon that has both a LJ and a hawacha (I have been on the receiving end of that build amd I just couldn't outrepair double heavy carrorade armor damage, and then when the armor was down, he just finished us with echidna). Heavy carrorade with piercing could very easily be OP.
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Yea hwachas are the scourge of that layout. It's too bad the only recorded use of it was in that match, lol.
I like the shatter on carronades for the small degree of gun destruction you get, like when facing a metamidion. I agree with Mattilald that adding piercing, even if removing the shatter, would make it OP. I mean, at 1.1.5 they had to lower the armor modifier to balance it out.
The reason they aren't as great as the gat is of course because it's not the primary role of the gun, which is fine. Merc and gat will have that advantage, and I think a new gun would be preferable to tweaking the existing armory to that extent.
Mattilald Anguisad:
--- Quote from: Squash on May 23, 2013, 12:16:46 pm ---How was he hitting you with a heavy carronade, a hwacha and a lumberjack?
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No you understood wrong. He was hitting us with double carrorade, but when Zil went against your team with the same build, Captain Smollet was hitting Zil with hawacha and LJ and that is an anthithesis for Blender-Galleon.
--- Quote from: RearAdmiralZill on May 23, 2013, 12:25:19 pm ---Yea hwachas are the scourge of that layout. It's too bad the only recorded use of it was in that match, lol.
I like the shatter on carronades for the small degree of gun destruction you get, like when facing a metamidion. I agree with Mattilald that adding piercing, even if removing the shatter, would make it OP. I mean, at 1.1.5 they had to lower the armor modifier to balance it out.
The reason they aren't as great as the gat is of course because it's not the primary role of the gun, which is fine. Merc and gat will have that advantage, and I think a new gun would be preferable to tweaking the existing armory to that extent.
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It didn't help that your timing wasn't as good as it was against us. I fogot on that map we were doing our match 3, I just remember we lost that match ^^ (and with it our Scrimmage with score of 2 - 1).
Ofiach:
--- Quote from: Moriarty on May 22, 2013, 12:10:20 am ---
--- Quote from: Ofiach on May 21, 2013, 11:38:01 pm ---god forbid, 2 LJ's are stomping a ship.
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Not as effective as you'd think.
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Ummm WHAT? 2 LJ's rip hull armor faster than 2 gats can! not to mention every permahull shot takes ~ 95 damage! I'm sorry but to bring the lumber in line it needs to lose 2 shells! it penalizes you for missing. and rewards you for hitting.
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