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Narayan:
No i want closed slots, Im tired of joining stacked lobbies on the other team and getting swarmed by matchmaker assigned noobs cause im not invited to the clan stack crew form. I can actually probably beat most of those guys in a carro fish with a gunner and 2 ai, or at least give them a run for their money. However giving me a level 3 and level 5 engie, or even sometimes a level 1 engie who swears he played the tutorial but is still 111 means im sunk. I can do pretty good on a goldie with 2 ai, and thats all i want is the ability to have those 2 ai. Ive been playing the game for a long time, and im sick of training the whole team, my crew, and ally captians. Even more than that I know what the outcome of a stacked lobby is going to be before i even start the match if my engies arent going to be able to keep my engines going. Muse im sick and tired of it, the community has shrunk, everyone who can plays in a crew form stacked ship, which means solo pilots like I am after KG goes to sleep are totally hosed. Give me the ability to close slots, give me the ability to vote kick, give me the ability to password lock, but please give us something! I guarantee that if some system was implemented which let captains control their ship than 90 percent of the community at least would use it, and I wouldnt have to be so salty from playing all these frustrating games. Or what actually happens is I just leave the match and quit the game and hope maybe when i come back later ill get a decent crew. That however means the poor noob team i left is gonna get super stomped, which by the way is driving away your new players. If i had stayed at least I could mentor the noob captains on there load out, and tell them how crazy king works. IMO you are killing the community more by not having this feature.
Piemanlives:
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Ok first off, please be willing to separate things into paragraphs, giant walls of text are annoying to read.
And secondly, now you're just ranting, reaching, and speaking for people.
But lets be civil and see if we can't figure something out. You're main complaint is that you don't want to play with low level players and are sick of tired of facing down stacked crew form team as a solo pilot. And because of this you want a way to prevent people from joining your ship such as captain/votekick, password protected ships, and locked slots. You also sound completely sure that these privileges would not be abused and would only be used in circumstances like such that you've mentioned in you're OP.
Now here's the thing, if password locking, Captain/votekick, Perma Locked Slots were added to the game everyone would have access to them. Doesn't matter if you lock it to a level because high level trolls exist in all games and they WILL use it. Can't speak for everyone but I at least know that I do NOT want to have to deal with that kind of bullshit.
And you know what? All of those features don't mesh with what this game is all about, cooperation. This game is not meant for solo play with the AI, it's a game built around communication and teamwork, none of those things are promoted by what you want.
I'll admit, sometimes I get aggravated dealing with low level players who don't want to learn or listen, or just doing things for shits and giggles. But with these features you're shutting down the people who do want to learn or at least are willing to try. And yeah fighting against coordinated crews and ships is a pain when the rest of your team don't know what to do. But how else are people going to learn to play the game? Novice exists but if you've been around the forum enough (Which by the way I somehow doubt) you'll know that people don't think that it's enough to give new players the environment to get used to the game and how it works.
Honestly I'm going to put this in here, if you're tired of playing alone after your clan heads off to bed you should probably make friends that you can play with after they're gone. I can't stress that enough, if you want skilled players to play with you're going to have to find them and become friends with them.
Narayan:
--- Quote from: Piemanlives on April 29, 2016, 01:51:24 pm ---
Honestly I'm going to put this in here, if you're tired of playing alone after your clan heads off to bed you should probably make friends that you can play with after they're gone. I can't stress that enough, if you want skilled players to play with you're going to have to find them and become friends with them.
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Well that is an argument, but the argument your making is the game should be a popularity contest where the people with friends get to stack, and the ones without a lot of friends get stomped. Thats unequal as far as im concerned and you are essentially saying that your game quality will be correlated with the quality of your personality and I dont see that as fair. I think the main thing this game is struggling to figure out is how to make it fair and open for everyone,not just the ones who have a large clan or a lot of people on their friends list. I have a lot of people on my friends list, but there not gonna quit playing with their clan, ALTO, CAKE, GRIM, what have you to come play with me.
Ill admit that muse has made some progress with matchmaker in the ability it asks you to split crews, and tries not to stack, but it certainty isnt fool proof. More often the not the stack lobbies will refuse to split crews.
While I understand that you feel passionitly that this isnt what the game is "about" youre still pretty low level in captain, and you probably just havent felt the burnout yet. Plus youre in a pretty large and active clan. When was the last time you played pilot with a full crew where no one was above level 10 in any class?
What you see is anti social I dont. With 2 ai i can train the one noob I have left as gunner and at least he will leave the match knowing how to use the carro. I can help the noob ally cause im not having to say, "hey guys repair the turners, and please get off the side guns when the engines are about to go down" every 45 seconds. As far as high level trolls go Im not to concerned anyone who would abuse this system would be subject to the same disciplinary action from muse that the low level trolls are who join my ship, so nothing to worry about!
Schwalbe:
...You are aware, how old in this game Piemannlives is, right? He just wasn't playing the game for QUITE SOME TIME.
And I speak as an almost burnt out veteran.
Your fucking ideas ARE antisocial, they WILL do harm to literally EVERYONE.
And your rant about "popularity" contest is an utter bullshit. If a barbaric, berserking shovelhead like myself can find people to play with, this means that with little to no effort anyone willing to get anything from this game can.
That's all I gotta say. Your views on how immaculate this system would be is naive, but thankfully - that idea will NEVER see the day of light, because it's gonna be ridiculously harmful - and this says that asshole, who is almost all for votekick. And votekick is said to never gonna happen.
Shinkurex:
Hey Guys,
Let's keep things civil here. Please remember that personal attacks are against our community standards:
http://gunsoficarus.com/community-standards/
You both have differing opinions on this, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. If this topic degrades again, I will be forced to lock the thread. Please PM me if you have any questions.
Clear Skies,
Shinkurex
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