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"The Cogs" Week 8 - Discussion
JaceBoojah:
--- Quote from: Helmic on April 28, 2013, 05:39:49 pm ---
--- Quote from: JaceBoojah on April 28, 2013, 04:08:21 pm ---We all have time to find players available and form or reorganize our teams.
If you cant make it that is just bad luck.
If you want a tournament that you can control all the details of, make one.
please, I want a ton more events.
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You are aware that boils down to "too bad, go away" right? That's a completely unacceptable attitude for what's supposed to be a friendly community event. Not everyone can easily form teams, not everyone is instantly recognizable in the community and can form their own cults if they so desire. There shouldn't be this active effort to dick with people who are struggling to keep up as it is. Believe it or not, those complaining aren't doing so just to ruin your fun, there's a serious downside to splitting the incredibly small competitive community into different tournaments, we WANT the Cogs to be the big event of GoI. It truly is not terrible for the Cogs to be a bit more accommodating if that means it's not turning away people who want to participate.
I'm fairly confident Qwerty and Swallow aren't thinking this stuff up just to whittle down the participants to the true poopsockers, but there does need to be more thought put into big stuff like this and their impact on those participating. These games should be for those playing first and foremost, the spectators and the channel views are a nice bonus but they should not come at the cost of pissing off the players. Just ask for input on this stuff, it's so damn hard to get a small team together as it is without having to deal with big changes on short notice.
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I say these things knowing the effort that goes into putting on events, and knowing that there is a lot of work and thought put into cogs.
There is no effort to dick with anyone. CoGs is not and cannot be for everyone. It's for team players who have put in the effort or had someone else put in the effort for them to form a team, practice, and show up
Take my personal cogs story for example:
When Cogs started I saw that I was not going to be able to play, I didn't know anyone personally in the game and had not made any name for myself yet. I started by trying to form my own clan, and started working on an everyone can join tournament called sky kinds. Both failed.
After crewing Smollets ship in normal games and having a great time he asked me if I wanted to be a duck.
Maybe a week and a half before the Raft played their first game I tried out for one of the 2 captain spots. I lost to Ccrack and ended up as the gunner for Hizumi. later because so many Ducks wanted to play in cogs I earned a captain spot on the 3rd ducks team, the Brood.
Even though the Brood has only played 2 matches, something like 17 different players have been on the Brood.
player sometimes can't make a game, some disappear, some stop playing GOI, some move on to captain their own teams, some come and fill in for one game.
You recruit when you sign up, and you recruit be for every single game. Thats just how it is.
I am in CoGs because of Squashes effort, Smollets effort, My effort, My various crew and teammate's effort, and all the people who put on the cog's effort.
IT TAKES A LOT OF EFFORT TO BE IN COGS.
If you don't like these facts about cogs make your own event. Seriously I want more events! I myself have spent over 30 hrs trying to get non cogs events going.
Machiavelliest:
This has a potential to become an all-day event. For many who don't fall in the 'all-day' time zones, this is grueling. 3am through 8 or 9am is rough. We can't all donate our entire Saturdays (Sundays here) to this game or event. "Shut up or piss off" marginalizes and alienates the community. I think all the criticism here is constructive and should be listened to--how can you host a major event for a wirldwide playerbase without people bringing up issues they have with its construction. Telling people you're taking your ball and going home because you think they're pussing out and not committed enough is ludicrous. And since you've spent 30 hours working on an event and the issue for many is being able to commit that much time to a video game, I think you can see telling people to go make their own event is illogical.
Shinkurex:
*Off subject 1 min*
--- Quote ---Seriously I want more events! I myself have spent over 30 hrs trying to get non cogs events going.
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Yes I want to see about setting up squid racing in the Labyrinth... that'd be fun as all get out
*Back on subject*
I agree with Machiavelliest here. We do not want to alienate some of the greatest members of our community with this. I enjoy fighting in the cogs, and I do not want it to stop. Now the issue I have with the current line of discussion, is there there is no one suggesting what we do to fix the issue, except for Moriarty. Truth is, there are a lot of people who would like to see a tournament style close to the cogs. This is a bit short notice I agree, but what can we do to help alleviate this. Maybe we don't do this over the span of 1 day, but 1 week (Or the equivalent of Sats).... That way we can better accommodate peoples schedules somewhat.
So let me open the floor to you. Who has ideas to make the end tourney work?
Machiavelliest:
Extend the season (this season) and begin the tournament prior to the season, playing the tournament matches that don't involve current COGs match teams concurrently. Yes, that means early tourney matches will be played at the same time as the COGs. That's the NCAA and every other sports television network's solution.
Moriarty:
--- Quote from: Machiavelliest on April 29, 2013, 10:44:01 am ---Extend the season (this season) and begin the tournament prior to the season, playing the tournament matches that don't involve current COGs match teams concurrently. Yes, that means early tourney matches will be played at the same time as the COGs. That's the NCAA and every other sports television network's solution.
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I'm sure there is value in this suggestion, but i don't understand.
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