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1.4.5 New Balance Changes "When Ambush Comes To Shove"

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Kamoba:

--- Quote from: Zanc on March 19, 2016, 06:39:23 pm ---LIGHTNING DAKKADAKKA

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"LIGHTNING DAKKADAKKA" Being the words I was screaming while shooting the gatling on Zanc's Junker.

"ELECTRIC CHARGED FIREBALLS MOTHER F***ER!" Came to mind while stripping spire armour with Hades, within 1 clip...

Omniraptor:

--- Quote from: Dev Bubbles on March 19, 2016, 04:46:37 pm ---Ok understood.  In summary, the areas that we need to pay close attention to are:  spire, squid, and loch. 

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Please also consider changing the sniper mobula. I can tell you guys want to change the mobula (because you sort of did), but this last gun arc change only locked it further into the one true build of merc/double art.

@Byron while I do agree with wonky test timing- changing just 1 variable not always the best way to solve a problem.

Red-Xiii:

--- Quote from: Omniraptor on March 19, 2016, 06:49:13 pm ---
--- Quote from: Dev Bubbles on March 19, 2016, 04:46:37 pm ---Ok understood.  In summary, the areas that we need to pay close attention to are:  spire, squid, and loch. 

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Please also consider changing the sniper mobula. I can tell you guys want to change the mobula (because you sort of did), but this last gun arc change only locked it further into the one true build of merc/double art.


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This so much.  I realized today my merc/hades build was taken from me.   It locked me into top art and brawl.  Very few different builds are now even viable for competetive for the mob.  There werent many to begin with but at least I felt like I had a choice. 

Skbo showed how much today the loch is buffed beyond comprehension.   Galleons going down in one clip of mortar or less on a gat/mortar pyra.  Thats just..... :-\

Solidusbucket:

--- Quote from: Red-Xiii on March 19, 2016, 07:50:55 pm ---
--- Quote from: Omniraptor on March 19, 2016, 06:49:13 pm ---
--- Quote from: Dev Bubbles on March 19, 2016, 04:46:37 pm ---Ok understood.  In summary, the areas that we need to pay close attention to are:  spire, squid, and loch. 

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Please also consider changing the sniper mobula. I can tell you guys want to change the mobula (because you sort of did), but this last gun arc change only locked it further into the one true build of merc/double art.


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This so much.  I realized today my merc/hades build was taken from me.   It locked me into top art and brawl.  Very few different builds are now even viable for competetive for the mob.  There werent many to begin with but at least I felt like I had a choice. 

Skbo showed how much today the loch is buffed beyond comprehension.   Galleons going down in one clip of mortar or less on a gat/mortar pyra.  Thats just..... :-\

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Yea, that was me on that mortar. Get wrecked.

Kendra Finegrinder:

--- Quote from: MightyKeb on March 19, 2016, 08:44:44 am ---
--- Quote from: Kendra Finegrinder on March 19, 2016, 08:34:54 am --- but we feel a certain KIND of pilot could in theory find a way to use this well enough to make people stop insisting, for a while, that squid is the worst ship of all time in all situations forever."

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This is false. The addition of pilot stamina has benefitted squid the most along with 950 hull and 6.66 acceleration a year ago. There has been evidence of successful squid usage in competitive games as of late and at one point the current competitive meta was widely considered to be a circle between Mobula > Fish > Squid > Mobula.

For the actual evidence of squid being used well competitively and squid being used in general, refer to Blood and Brass tournament VODs on Muse Games' channel, as well as Cronus Leauge clips. (Prime examples from both: Team Predators in BB and Team Bumble in CL.)

The fact is, squid's effectiveness is tied to the pilot itself making minimum amount of mistakes. Those who can are feared, those who can't are shown as "proof" that squid's a bad ship. Simply pay no attention to the naysayers and realize they're stuck in a baser mode of thought.

In my opinion, flying backwards 24/7 is still as ridicilous as it was before, but it's very much possible to have an easy back-side bifecta whilst being able to rotate to the front more quickly now because you can slide by them with your side.

HOWEVER. I doubt that the average squid pilot (the one who consistently proves it's "weaknesses") will be able to abuse that as much as the vet squid pilot does. So this change didn't actually lower squid's skill floor as far as back gun usage goes.

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The fact that that statement is false was basically the point. I agree with you. I was saying that was what the idea of the change seems to be, and the dream is that people will come to fear the spire, but that won't happen due to it being so ultimately pilot dependent. Hence the weird combination of masochism / determination / denial / optimism its most frequent pilots seem to have. =P

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