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Hoja Lateralus:

--- Quote from: Daft Loon on February 07, 2016, 08:46:56 pm ---Marginally related pet hate -
High level players I don't know or barely know turning my team from me + 1 or 2 friends + misc into a stack of me + friends + 3 or so other vets + misc rather than joining a ship on the other side that might have a novice on it. Could people try not doing that.

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Explained above. Boo hoo, vets want to have fun too, what a terrible people they are.

Although this one time I've had this situtation that I was in the lobby and I've seen that match is stacked against me, with members of certain-big-but-not-so-liked-clan playing main roles. So yeah I've figured "Fine, I'll get this over with and then lobby will shuffle and I'll have some actually good match perhaps". But after the match ended they actually swapped back. Well that's uncool, man.

Arturo Sanchez:
No responders, decliners and shit talkers and sure majority of vets will actively play with noobs.

Not going away? then we'll do what any reasonable person does. Kill them all with extreme prejudice by staying with people we TRUST.

Keyvias:
Hey guys,

Just wanted to hop in and say a couple things.

1) It is not your job to teach and improve the novices (Though we truly appreciate those that do!) Your job is definitely to have fun and that can and should be your first priority
2) When someone says "Novice Hating" happens, they don't mean you are doing it or everyone is doing it, simply that people are doing it and it is frustrating them because they want people to stick around, we all do.
3) Youtube events bring out the worst in novice games and in vets (cause vets have to deal with players who honestly don't know the game at all.) It sucks, but it's true. It is important to remember though, that many current vets found out about the game from previous events we did and I know plenty of vets who didn't know about Guns of Icarus before Grumps, TB, or Cox. So for the bad apples that hang out for a week, we do get some truly awesome players out of these events.
4) I think Disaster has the right idea. If you hate the novices (or how the game gets during a youtube event) a break can be the best bet. Play the game when it's fun for you and reap the rewards of still having a population without having to deal with the week of training and headaches.
5) Events like this are why we still have a population, without a influx of players every so often the player base would be much smaller (See most other multiplayer only indie games)


So in summation, I know its frustrating to deal with novices, it's frustrating to deal with vet hate, it's frustrating that this is the best way to pop the population up. I wish we could get a couple million views and sales putting up in-depth tutorials that made people as awesome as most of our vets and only have the people that Guns is a match for buy it.
We are improving the tutorials and making them mandatory so hopefully that will help a bit, but at the end of the day there's no way to instill the hundreds to thousands of hours that vets have into novices that quickly.

It definitely doesn't hurt to talk about this topic though and at the end of the day we all want the same thing (a bunch of vets and great players to keep playing Guns of Icarus.) So as long as we keep everything civil I'd love to look at unique solutions to something that has been an issue for almost every online game for as long as the first "LFG" was met by "Fk U"

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