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ikej:
I hope that it will be possible in the future for the someone who is not the captain to be the pilot. In the crew I play with we have someone who is extremely good as the pilot but cannot play pilot because I am usually the captain and play engineer. Normally I would not mind making him the captain, but since I've spent money on customizing my ship I want to use it and the only way to do that is to be captain. What I am getting at is that I think that it should be possible for me to stay as the captain and play engineer while someone who is not captain can play pilot.

Richard LeMoon:
No.

Used to be able to. It was removed because of second pilot trolling. Best thing that happened in a while. Now if they will only limit gunners to what the captain requests, we will be golden.

Also, it is a bad idea to not be at the helm and pilot as captain. You absolutely need to talk to your fellow captains.

BlackenedPies:
The ability to be a pilot in a crew slot was removed some time ago for important reasons. Captains need to be able to communicate in match using the C key. Trying to talk to your ally doesn't help when they're an engineer. The captain is able to use the "B" target command which needs to be used by the pilot. The captain chooses the ship so if you're not playing with your friends then being a non-pilot captain is a turn off to the whole lobby.

I get that you'd like to use the customized ship but if you're not playing with friends then this wouldn't be an option. There's simply no benefit to having a pilot in the crew slot and pilot crews/non pilot captains were a big problem in games. Seeing that your ally had an engi captain and pilot crew was disheartening and caused many to leave lobbies. Every opportunity I get I remind non-pilot captains to please switch to the pilot class because the captain slot is for the pilot.

Here's what I recommend. Email feedback@musegames.com and explain the situation. They can send your friend the item codes. The devs are friendly and will help.

ikej:
What do you mean by second pilot trolling and limiting the gunner like would be horible limits like these just suck the fun out of a game like this. I do communicate with my fellow captains, you dont need to be at the helm to do that. The set up i use works well for my crew and if i already have a crew member who is a good pilot and i spent money on my ship why retrain half my crew or not get to use my ship. The problem with having my pilot friend captain is he has no way of communicating we can only talk through skype and he has to use his phone for that, he has no pc mic or money to buy one.

BlackenedPies:
Richard means that players used to be able to join a crew as pilot to troll. It was also common for someone accidentally join an in-progress match as pilot in a crew slot. The game system makes it impossible to switch classes without a workaround so crews would be stuck with an extra pilot. If someone decided to join your crew as pilot there's nothing you can do. By limiting gunners he means that you can't have two gunners join a ship. Without at least 2 engineers you stand no chance and it ruins the game. Second gunners can hijack the ship and force captains to leave. If a captain wants two gunners then fine, but they don't. It sucks the fun out of the game.

Everyone liked the change because of experience dealing with those problems. On an individual basis it wouldn't be a problem to let you have a pilot crew, but overall it creates too much conflict. It won't be changed because it was an important fix.

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