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ZnC:
Interesting point about Lochnagar; however, it's strange to me how Heavy Clip was nerfed to 70% but Lochnagar is left at 100%. As an ammo type, I appreciated it more when both had their roles more defined - to reduce spread and arming time respectively. Now, it seems Lochnagar is a superior choice to reduce spread for low ammo guns like the Heavy Carronade or even Minotaur.

I mostly have the same view as before regarding the Minotaur - effective range is too close to Hwacha because they have similar spread. It is a lot easier to hit now, however, because of high projectile speed. Can't think of any situation where it would replace the Hwacha on my Spire; wouldn't sacrifice a reliable, burst disable and killing power for a mediocre "disable". Perhaps it works well on a Galleon as Lumberjack/Hwacha support, or maybe a Minofish with side guns usage and rams.

BlackenedPies:

--- Quote from: Byron Cavendish on November 12, 2015, 01:45:33 am ---With a buff, the ammo will put 448.2 damage to armour per clip. With normal and lesmok ammo it will put out 432 damage per clip to armour. The perk of lesmok is that it increases the speed of the pellets from 550 m/s to 935 m/s!

--- End quote ---

Buffed Minotaur deals 864 armor damage per clip and lesmok and heavy do 648. I don't find lesmok useful due to the large spread. It's not hard to hit ships at over 1k and doing so yields more push than lesmok with the large dispersion. You're best off practicing with heavy.

Lochnagar increases dps to more than a buff engi only if there's an immediate mallet. Otherwise you're stuck at 69% reload speed for at least 5 seconds. Lochnagar is very useful for gunner. I prefer buff engi because it does overall higher damage, pushes more than loch, and is better at disabling. Along with all the other benefits of a buff. Gunner stamina is useful but you won't be breaking many components so you're stuck with the slowest stamina regen.

I regularly use Minotaur on spire and galleon. Spire is artemis top buffed banshee bottom and is especially good against fish. Galleon is banshee-taur-hwatcha carro-hwatcha. With the spanner mallet buff burst hwatcha in the back and wrench buff ext heavy in front you can have a fully buffed galleon with moonshine.

Richard LeMoon:
It has gone from a multipurpose gun to a one trick pony. It used to be OK at close range for defense and long range disruption (though needed better balance). Narrowing the arc to 'balance' the higher damage and more force makes it next to useless close range on anything but a Spire.

Daft Loon:
It still has the best overall arcs of any heavy gun and an effective range from 0 out to 1200+. The pre patch arcs with stamina felt rather silly to me when using them sometimes and would be too strong in the downward arc with the new force.

Richard LeMoon:
Adding more force was a mistake and I don't feel was tested enough. I was doing testing, and did not know it was changed. Same actual change notes would be nice next time so we know what we are testing.

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