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Helios.:
the only reason i hesitate to agree is that we know the first contact with the outside world was with the fjord baronies, so it wasn't the MG who found Chaledon first. that said the plague hit after the age of air because the nobles took to the sky in huge barges. so its theoretically possible that Chaledon's isolation had ended and the future guilds-men could have known about Chaledon when they went on the cure-hunt. i wouldn't imagine that the Chaledonians would welcome someone from a place full of plague, you would think someone with that reputation wouldn't be welcomed.the order is not a tight knit government though, and id imagine that there would be some parts of the island more welcoming than others.

This is of course all valid only if the timeline matches up, that the plague was after the baronies first contact with chaledon. we only know that both of these events happened after the flight of the icarus

Helios.:
i found in the history that the age of red death is 50 AB-100AB but the flight of the icarus was in 212 AB, so i'm not sure what the guildsmen hiding above the plague were using...

EDIT:
the plague that hit the MG was not the read death but somethign called the grey blight, so there isnt a problem, potentially

Squidslinger Gilder:
Yeah I think Guild lands as a whole is just a toxic site. Overhead pictures make it look rather dead and I wonder why they'd settle there. Must be water resources of some kind that they found there. That or there was a city already there that they just re-inhabited.

It just doesn't fit Chaladon's open nature with the Arashi and closed with MG unless something happened to cause it. Unless Chaladonians are selfish jackasses. Maybe Arashi is just "okay" with them being jackasses.

Helios.:
teh chaledonains have a deal with the arashi? i missed that, if true that would be HUGE. my understandign is that while chaledonians are very interested in spreading the word and trying to save the environment, they arent all that excited abotu lettign people ONTO the island of chaledon.
i agree that to look at the map, there is nothing growing in the vastness, all the goods that the guild trades must therefore be some kind of manufactured goods, importing wood and textiles and exporting finished airships and guns and the like for example. with the profits from that kind of trade, they can afford to then BUY food and water from anyone who has a surplus (wich im not sure who that would be, but ok)
i feel like food is teh leephant in tehroom for a lot fo these nations, where does it all come from. we know the fjordlanders and angleans fish a lot, but that the fisheries are not keeping up, the land is recovering slowly, but looking at the map its a miracle theres enough farmland for everyone, if there even is...

Squidslinger Gilder:
Independent states likely play a large role in the food situation. There is a plains region and areas outside of Yesha or Chaladon where food could grow well. I imagine this keeps the independent states and cities viable. Especially for people who disagree with polices on the national level of some of the major countries. What could Firnfeld possibly have that Anglea could want? Likely imports from the south. Instead of attacking the routes they attack the destination.

Chaladon society is isolationist but that doesn't necessarily mean they are opposed to people visiting, just I'd say not in large numbers. Might have a "uchi soto" mentality like Japan has today. Welcome you if you are there to visit, but if you stay you are treated as an outsider. Cept for Chaladon I could imagine it being worse. They could be completely closed off or maybe only partially. Even Japan during the Tokugawa isolationism allowed the Dutch to continue trade with them.

Chaladon has some deals with the Arashi. I know somewhere Muse mentioned they use the Arashi lands for tech testing or at least buy/trade tech with them. I would guess for food and supplies. So the question comes in, why would an isolated country trade with known criminals unless they had a common enemy? They also have some deals with the Baronies which I can assume is for similar reasons since the Fjordlanders fight Angleans just as they do. So if there are deals with the Fjordlands and Arashi then I can assume from that both nations have some form of representation in Chaladon. Perhaps even get visitors from time to time.

I could imagine the immigration process into Chaladon being very difficult. Different from Anglea where it is easy to get in, just hard to get out. To become Anglean, just be captured and enslaved. They treat you like royalty and you lose all desire to leave.

In the VN we have a saying involving Chaladon and restaurants. Goes around the lines of..."just because we don't always order something doesn't mean we don't like to see what's on the menu." Implies Chaladon likes to know what is going on, they just don't get involved like the other nations.

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