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Sunday Community Skirmish: New optional blind pick mode

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Dementio:

--- Quote from: Byron Cavendish on November 12, 2015, 02:30:26 am ---*sigh* now I really do miss the days when teams were known for one particular build/style and really perfected it.

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Which led to their imminent downfall the second they fought something that "accidentally" countered them, as it sometimes wasn't the enemy's team intention to counter, but they were practised in the one thing that countered.

You can still perfect one build/style, which the Thralls did show and the Predators are now doing too.

And being able to fly different styles and ships increases the pilot skill as it also shows him how to better fight against it.



--- Quote from: GurasOguras on November 12, 2015, 01:52:15 am ---Also: I totally understand that Rydr is so much after it, but remember guys that there are still teams not able to properly play every ship build and composition because we lack training.

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Which is why blind pick should be for you, theoretically. Even if the enemy has a good idea of what you are going to do, they cannot be sure, which should leave you with more freedom of choosing a ship.


As a side note:

--- Quote from: nhbearit on November 11, 2015, 10:07:07 pm ---Or you could just do what Ryder does and rely on the Mob.

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We have won quite a few matches without Mobula and lost many with it. Fun fact: The ship that I have a highest win rate with, in competitive, is the Pyramidion.

But if you really want to win, just bring a Goldfish and pair it with something that has at least one piercing gun and explosive gun.

nhbearit:

--- Quote from: Dementio on November 12, 2015, 04:26:19 am ---...Which led to their imminent downfall the second they fought something that "accidentally" countered them, as it sometimes wasn't the enemy's team intention to counter, but they were practised in the one thing that countered.

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Do you really not see this as a problem? Goio should not be a rock-paper-scissors type game. If there is a hard counter to ANYTHING then Muse has failed.


--- Quote from: Dementio on November 12, 2015, 04:26:19 am ---Which is why blind pick should be for you, theoretically. Even if the enemy has a good idea of what you are going to do, they cannot be sure, which should leave you with more freedom of choosing a ship.

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No, Dementio... this is a good reason why Blind pick doesn't work for teams like that. If you only know how to run one or two builds you NEED to know which to bring, or if there's anything you can do with your single build to help not get rofl stomped.


Oh, and I'll just leave these here..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUDj-V8Cta0   SCS 59 Round 2 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsRlnCpodwk   SCS 59 Semis

BlackenedPies:

--- Quote from: nhbearit on November 12, 2015, 10:12:18 am ---Oh, and I'll just leave these here..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUDj-V8Cta0   SCS 59 Round 2 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsRlnCpodwk   SCS 59 Semis

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In the semis we started with double junker and Baked & Fancy had lumberfish and carro spire. We decided to switch to double fish and they didn't change. It looked like an organization error because the fish swapped to hwatcha a bit late but the gunner kept lumber ammo. Renaulde was exclusively using heatsink on hwatcha. I don't think it was intentional to keep the carro spire.

I see merit in blind picks that start once teams have switched X times. I'd figure the rule is you're allowed to swap if they swap to prevent last second swaps. If both teams swap too much it goes into the last blind swap then you start. I don't really know the rules but that makes sense.

nanoduckling:
"Also: I totally understand that Rydr is so much after it, but remember guys that there are still teams not able to properly play every ship build and composition because we lack training. T.pr is currently the most obvious in their picks. Not everyone is that good in guessing game and can play completely any combination."

Guras if you think the Ryders want this or any other change for their benefit then I have a bridge I want to sell you. Regardless of if you think the effect is one way or another their collective motivation here is not to provide themselves with an advantage in the SCS or any other tournament.

Byron Cavendish:
I'm pretty sure the ryders could kick all our butts regardless of any stipulations

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