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Why should the many punish the few?
Squidslinger Gilder:
Salute Noir!
Arturo Sanchez:
the intent of people being sent to match making is so people are thrown into the mix as easily manageable resources to send where MM sees fit.
It can't do that if most players arent on there.
Hence its "faster" (on paper) and "fairer" to just let MM find/make a new lobby and properly "balance" the game lobbies.
However it steps on the toes of the intent of its older versions and solutions. Like team scramble. Basically... less control for players because the game needs to be made idiot proof for the anticipation of an increase in stupid people.
Lieutenant Noir:
Hmm... if that's how the matchmaker works.
The only thing I could really think as a compensation would be for the previously mentioned choices to only take place at a lower player base (when the matchmaker has less players to work with and is much less effective in balancing matches).
However the problem still lies in that we have to work with Steam Sale players who aren't the most cooperative or bright.
That being said people still leave lobbies in mass. If some players find that the other team is stacked they go back into the matchmaker, sometimes only to be brought back to the same lobby. However the matchmaker would still have too little players to work with.....
I would still rather have the option of individual choice
Players who want to find a game quicker by staying in a lobby "can".
While new players who aren't that alert about how the crew formations system works will not have to be responsible for the entire team being sent to the match maker.
It would allow newer players to have the matchmaker balance the matches for them, and we get enough of them through the steam sales for the matchmaker to work with Kinda.
You'll be forced more into a shell of a lobby but I think it's a compromise I can vouch for, I'll have way more conversations about what everyone is eating or how to properly dress a bleeding finger ;(
In the end you'll still be tricking new players but they would not have to drag us down with them. :P
Squidslinger Gilder:
Can solve a lot if they just dump MMR and let the system instantly shaft people into lobbies immediately. Then you have little to no wait queue except if there is a pilot shortage. Literally an idea that was proposed but not considered, although maybe they did. Muse never mentioned it. But it was simply to bring back the quick join but just make it smarter so ships wouldn't get 3 gunners. That was the implied definition of matchmaking before MM happened.
Instead we got this thanks to all the stacked match QQing. Victims of our own success. What do we have to do? Make unlimited alt accounts just so we can get frequent matches? Either way the system punishes vet players. Byron's observations attest to that.
Arturo Sanchez:
--- Quote from: Gilder Unfettered on May 18, 2015, 05:36:53 am ---Can solve a lot if they just dump MMR and let the system instantly shaft people into lobbies immediately. Then you have little to no wait queue except if there is a pilot shortage. Literally an idea that was proposed but not considered, although maybe they did. Muse never mentioned it. But it was simply to bring back the quick join but just make it smarter so ships wouldn't get 3 gunners. That was the implied definition of matchmaking before MM happened.
Instead we got this thanks to all the stacked match QQing. Victims of our own success. What do we have to do? Make unlimited alt accounts just so we can get frequent matches? Either way the system punishes vet players. Byron's observations attest to that.
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it did that in the 1st update of MM. It was terribad. Stackings galour, as ppl certainly got those matches fast as they wished (not me), but stacking was near consistent.
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