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To GG or not to GG? That is the question.
Patched Wizard:
I used to play football in a semi-professional league since I was a kid and from a young age I was always taught to show good sportsmanship regardless of the results of the game or the opponents that I faced. From that I always try and say "good game" because no matter if I or they got crushed, the simple fact was that we both played against each other and stayed until the end. For me it is honourable to show a margin of respect to my opponent even if neither of us had fun.
Commendations however are a different thing. I see that as more of a personal recognition of a player's actions in the game and for that I do not find responsible to always reward a player. I will even say "good game" in matches against vile players but I will withhold giving them a commendation for their behaviour.
At a young age, without the foundations of sportsmanship, a child can quickly descend into elitism, arrogance, and develop exclusionary and selfish behaviour. At an older age our habits take longer to remould, but given a long enough time scale, even a tiny splinter of pretentiousness can infect our minds and grow to dominate our attitude in all spheres of our lives.
For me, "good game" is more about keeping myself in check and ensuring that I always maintain a good attitude in game then about the game itself.
Arturo Sanchez:
--- Quote from: Kamoba on March 06, 2015, 01:57:45 am ---
--- Quote from: Maximillian Jazzhand on March 05, 2015, 07:31:28 pm ---GG is pretty much my way of saying game over.
I guess game gone? Hence I only say it before or during a match when it has reached a conclusive point.
gg in many rts circles (esports star craft notably) is actually just a means of surrendering a match as it has reached the point where a player loses the chance/ability to win.
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Or perhaps this is your mind perceiving this in such a negative manner through psychological assumptions?
GG stands for Good Game, any normal person who wants to saying something different, will say something different. If someone writes GG and you read something different, it is your perception, not their meaning.
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Its 6-4
and most of those 6 deaths were due to your noob ally squid that has charged the enemy spawn.
You have 10 seconds to spawn and kero across the map just in time to see the squid die from a 3 v 1.
Pretty freakin gg. Spare your delusional demonising nonsense.
MightyKeb:
--- Quote from: Maximillian Jazzhand on March 12, 2015, 12:09:50 am ---
--- Quote from: Kamoba on March 06, 2015, 01:57:45 am ---
--- Quote from: Maximillian Jazzhand on March 05, 2015, 07:31:28 pm ---GG is pretty much my way of saying game over.
I guess game gone? Hence I only say it before or during a match when it has reached a conclusive point.
gg in many rts circles (esports star craft notably) is actually just a means of surrendering a match as it has reached the point where a player loses the chance/ability to win.
--- End quote ---
Or perhaps this is your mind perceiving this in such a negative manner through psychological assumptions?
GG stands for Good Game, any normal person who wants to saying something different, will say something different. If someone writes GG and you read something different, it is your perception, not their meaning.
--- End quote ---
Its 6-4
and most of those 6 deaths were due to your noob ally squid that has charged the enemy spawn.
You have 10 seconds to spawn and kero across the map just in time to see the squid die from a 3 v 1.
Pretty freakin gg. Spare your delusional demonising nonsense.
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From what I can see ceres kamoba hasnt said anything about "why you should gg" all he's doing is bringing awareness to the general meaning of gg, as not everyone will assume a poorly worded "game gone" when you say gg and if you really wanna get it out youre better off just writing down the whole sentence.
Kamoba:
--- Quote from: MightyKeb on March 12, 2015, 03:37:18 am ---
--- Quote from: Maximillian Jazzhand on March 12, 2015, 12:09:50 am ---
--- Quote from: Kamoba on March 06, 2015, 01:57:45 am ---
--- Quote from: Maximillian Jazzhand on March 05, 2015, 07:31:28 pm ---GG is pretty much my way of saying game over.
I guess game gone? Hence I only say it before or during a match when it has reached a conclusive point.
gg in many rts circles (esports star craft notably) is actually just a means of surrendering a match as it has reached the point where a player loses the chance/ability to win.
--- End quote ---
Or perhaps this is your mind perceiving this in such a negative manner through psychological assumptions?
GG stands for Good Game, any normal person who wants to saying something different, will say something different. If someone writes GG and you read something different, it is your perception, not their meaning.
--- End quote ---
Its 6-4
and most of those 6 deaths were due to your noob ally squid that has charged the enemy spawn.
You have 10 seconds to spawn and kero across the map just in time to see the squid die from a 3 v 1.
Pretty freakin gg. Spare your delusional demonising nonsense.
--- End quote ---
From what I can see ceres kamoba hasnt said anything about "why you should gg" all he's doing is bringing awareness to the general meaning of gg, as not everyone will assume a poorly worded "game gone" when you say gg and if you really wanna get it out youre better off just writing down the whole sentence.
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Basically what Keb said, not everyone has the ability to read minds like you Ceres, so when you say "gg" most people read Good Game, not Game Gone, so if you want to say "Game Gone" better to type the full thing.
8)
Also my overall point revolves around your negative attitude as well, if you assume negative attitude from other people who are being positive, you attract a negative experience to yourself, this could be why you're experiencing so much frustration and despair to your game play, making it less enjoyable for yourself.
Hoja Lateralus:
What Kamoba said is CA-speak for "It's all your fault, asshole" :D
Ceres said nothing wrong, I think. As he said, in starcraft saying gg when you see you can't win anymore means surrendering the game. Although I think "game gone" explanation is wrong, it's just saying gg like "It was a good fight, you won, I cannot fight you anymore and we can just spare those extra 5-10-whatever minutes of you destroying every my building". I think gg as, say, "good day" can be said (written) both seriously and sarcastically, that's why you see sth like "Oh, lvl1 gunner joined our ship and took the helm. GG.".
About gg-ing itself - after many sales I find less and less patience and (sadly) less and less respect for the new players, so most of the time I don't gg because it wasn't a good game for me (duh!). GGing can be treated as common courtesy like saying hi to your crew, or something more meaningless. Same goes with giving recommendation, adding to friend list, clan recrutation patterns etc.
Also I think goio is a bit more complicated regarding gg issue than Starcraft. In Starcraft most games are 1v1 so it's really battle between you and your oponent and nobody can "break" your game, like a bad ally or crewmember in goio. We all know the pain. That's why never gg when bad ally (regardless whether on my or enemy team) acts stupid or leaves after first death. That's why blocks and reports are so important and that's why votekick or something similar is a must (but that's a different story).
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